Beast Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Just found this for pre order .... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/081099249...=books&v=glance Book Description Like Graffiti World, Freight Train Graffiti is the definitive history of a vibrant art form. Until now there was almost no written insight into this vast subculture, which inspires fascination across America and around the world. As dazzling as the art it celebrates, the book is packed with 1,000 full-color illustrations and features in-depth interviews with more than 125 train artists and "writers." Hundreds of never-before-seen photographs span the style's evolution, while the authoritative text from an all-star team of authors provides unprecedented perspective, including the first-ever written history of "monikers," the precursors of graffiti, developed by hobos and rail workers to communicate en route. Bound to surprise graffiti artists, graphic designers, and urban culture buffs alike, this book will inspire anyone who has ever been interested in graffiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowteN Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 this should be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skirmfirm Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 heard bout this the other day, im defi gonna get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsorbDesigns Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 sick... i hope they do a good job of covering artists from differant areas of the continent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Stock Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 yea i hope its better then the AKA book ....i wasnt happy with the book for the money i spend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 it's by roger. don't hold your breath based on the people i heard who got 'cut' i wasn't real stoked on it. then again, if it really has 1000 pics i guess it'd be cool no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrngent Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 i also heard that the publishers had a fieldday with it! NOT GOOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It looks good to me. There's always going to be some grousing about who else should have been in instead of so-and-so, but an honest effort was made to include every important player, and I think they succeeded in particular with the early generations of aerosol, including some obscure folks who deserved it. Some omissions were also at the request (or disdain) of potential includees, despite being invited. Roger's rep on the $$ tip will no doubt prejudice some folks against this right away. But from what I've seen this is a serious effort to be comprehensive, not some fast-buck bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 just so ya know for me it's not about his making money off of it. i know people who were involved in putting it together and some decisions i would regard as 'poor' were made. i'm not going to rant about the thing. i'm sure it has some great parts and like the old addage goes you can't please everyone (especially not when your working on some elitist shit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frate_Raper Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't know about it,I don't care what went on before hand.I'll say my peice after I see the final product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmuffs Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 prolly be like every other graffiti mag/book/video... biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 why buy a book about graffiti when you do it every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HATEBREEDER Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 now every toy will do trains!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail of rage Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 like they havent been anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecarwreck Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Beast@Dec 31 2005, 02:55 PM ...including the first-ever written history of "monikers," the precursors of graffiti, developed by hobos and rail workers to communicate en route. Quoted post son of a bitch. stole my dissertation topic. and it's not the "first-ever" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 still...see what it looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogohead Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 every graffiti book, magazine, movie is without questioned bias, but nothing will change that, I think he did a pretty good job with his book about DC but I don't really want people uncovering/exposing freight graffiti, I'm saying the historical aspect is good, people should know about history but if you want to learn about freights go sit by the tracks and bench, study the shit like everyone else, pay your dues, I know i'm still paying mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWX1994 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by HATEBREEDER@Feb 19 2006, 12:18 AM now every toy will do trains!! Quoted post every toy already does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowteN Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 what do yall think about a freight book and its potential to comprimise the culture. little known to most is david gunn was elected ta pres only 1 year after subway art came out. legend has it that the city was so embarrased that subway graffiti had reached this proportion they made a special point to eradicate it. and you know what they say...those that dont learn from history...etc. etc. im not against this book in any way, id rather roger do it than someone who has no experience as a writer. im just interested in hearing opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 the whole culture has bubbled to the surface i hate it when any attention gets brought to it that could potentially alert the mainstream. what is going to happen when people find out that we can paint these things all the time? and that since some cars carry toxic substances that shit is very dangerous to the general public in a post-9/11 world? i wish people found another way to make their money, because this is not elevating the scene by bringing it legitimacy, it's just shining a spotlight on illegal activity that has a strong constituency against it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeightyone Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 That dc book someone spoke of up there... pffffff. i'm with symbols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I mentioned how inevitable this was years ago in the "critical mass" thread. I feel all the heads who don't want attention focused on the scene because of the heat it will bring. But I'm on the existentialist tip: you can't fight the tide. This shit is going to happen sooner or later, the scene will morph, change happens. Shit blows up. Once a scene is old enough, and dope enough, it needs proper documentation. (I don't fully know how proper the book is, I didn't get that long a look.) Real heads will adjust to whatever changes come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southrngent Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 truthhhhhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinaround Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 hmmmm so this is what darin was working on. interesting...cant wait to see the boxcar art section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinaround Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Originally posted by thecarwreck+Feb 20 2006, 01:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thecarwreck - Feb 20 2006, 01:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Beast@Dec 31 2005, 02:55 PM ...including the first-ever written history of "monikers," the precursors of graffiti, developed by hobos and rail workers to communicate en route. Quoted post son of a bitch. stole my dissertation topic. and it's not the "first-ever" Quoted post [/b] :huh2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 i heard about this book a while ago when he was doing it. from what i was told by one of dudes friends, he was being really really picky and choosy about who to put in and who not too. which i guess happens all the time, but i dont know, it just turned me off. i'd still like to see it, but i think any book like this just isnt going to help frieghts at all. i think the book is just one more straw on the camels back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 ...worrying about this book making freight painting 'mainstream' is kinda obsurd, considering that as we speak target is sponsoring a contest to promote the marc ecko video game...that's mainstream. I gurantee you this book is going to make little difference to anyone outside of the already small segment of society that thinks graffiti is cool...tons of toys already paint freights everyday...maybe this book will inspire a few more, but no more than a popular graffiti forum did and still does... ...i can't comment about the legitamacy of coverage in the book, i do have some hang ups about free agents, but i haven't seen it so i don't know...we'll have to wait and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 who the fuck is worried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deformatron Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 fuck yeah, Pre on the cover- philly freights yall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBROTHER Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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