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thanks karma, haha yea.... art teach says "its very found object" *in art fag voice* its kinda hard to make out the stencil cuz the pic is so shitty. but thanks.

 

unless that underspray is intentional, u should get some spray adhesive. not bad for a 3rd stencil though.

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Originally posted by [mania�

,Dec 22 2005, 06:02 PM]

thanks karma, haha yea.... art teach says "its very found object" *in art fag voice* its kinda hard to make out the stencil cuz the pic is so shitty. but thanks.

 

unless that underspray is intentional, u should get some spray adhesive. not bad for a 3rd stencil though.

 

Mania... Im diggin that... the crowd looks ill with the texture of the surface... but who's on the phone? j/k.

Dope as always...

 

RD... there's nothin I can say that would do your work justice...

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ya mania, i actually have some spray adhesive now i just didn't have it at the time. i just don't feel like respraying that stencil. I like this whole canvas/artsy thing you you and rd have going. im gonna have to try it. i need to think of something to do though. And mania. do you take your own photos? and for your phone people piece did you roll or spray? Last thing. Are you a member of SR?

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i take my own photos for some of my stencils, use friends pics for some, and use google/corbis for some. alot of my other work is @ school and being on break, i cant really take pics and post 'em.

 

both the phone and the people are sprayed... its hard as fuck to try to get the layers to sitck down to the textured surface. most of the time i ended up using my hand to hold down the different parts when i was spraying it. i dont usually paint/roll stencils cuz i dont like the brush strokes, when done right, spray paint is just smooth and clean color. i only use rollers for tshirts.

 

but dont forve the canvi thing... try doing something different, and something that looks good to you. also... something to keep in mind: unless u have a really sick stencil and thats all u want to show in ur piece, make sure that ur piece has composition or other element to it other than just a stencil. ive been guilty of just doing a stencil that isnt really good on a canvas in the past and it just ends up being a waste of canvas. but yea... make it ur own.

 

yea im a member of SR, but there my name is m.r.

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mania, i know what you mean by not forcing the canvas thing and adding more to that kinda stuff than just a stencil. I'm definately going to make up what i want on paper before using a canvas. But for those pieces that you do for art class or hang on the wall what kinda paint would you use. I use walmart paint and its shit and doesn't have good colors. Whats a good canvas spray paint? I know montana has great colors but is it any good for canvas work?

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for canvas use montana Alien or montana hardcore.

 

there are tons of colors and u can usually get the whole color scale. ie: bluescale, grayscale, etc.

 

alien is low pressure so the spray doesnt get up under the stencil and make lots of underspray. it also dries incredibly fast and covers thickly. id suggest using a widder cap when u spray because they make a thin coating in a wide are but have very good coverage... i hope this makes sense, its kinda hard to put into words. the wide caps also dont spray as fast or as hard as thins. but u gotta be more careful about overspray with wider caps. i usually use orange dots for canvas work and pink dots for work on the streets

 

montana brands of paint are better because they have thick pigment that dries really fast. in most brands of paint u cant cover darker colors with lighter ones without the darker one showing through. with montana alien/jardcore, u can with no poblem. u can cover black with white and not be able to see any of the black.

 

walmart paint is alright for shit stuff and test sprays but not for canvas/piece work. its just shit in a can when it comes to stuff like that.

 

montana paints are expensive but worth every cent. and sometimes i can get the art teach to order paint for me... if ur in school this would be worth a shot. in my experience, art teachers love stencilers/graff artists... i dunno why, but they do. show ur work to ur teach (if ur in school) and get her to order some paint. its worth a try anyways.

 

yea my art teacher gave me and a few other kids @ my school who stencil/graff this old darkroom and we kinda turned it into a studio.... and we get free paint from her so its all good.

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Originally posted by [mania?

,Dec 23 2005, 02:16 PM]

in my experience, art teachers love stencilers/graff artists... i dunno why, but they do.

 

 

lucky son of a gun, my art teacher says anything with words or letters isnt art. she also says, if its suppoed to be a word and she cant read it, its not art either.

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yea... what a bitch. thats bull shit. how can throwing paint at a canvas be art, while manipulating letters to make them ur own, to give them style, to make them art, not be. graff artists put more time and effort into their art than many other artists put into theirs. spraypaint is just another medium and graffiti is another art form.

 

but haha... that sucks for u

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Originally posted by INSOM@Dec 19 2005, 09:37 PM

Sooner or later ill make these real ones...but for now....

 

myface.jpg

buddhaI.jpg

 

 

I got to say i dont believe in the buddhism thing

But i got to say that is great marker artmanship!

 

-EmOk

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Originally posted by -KARMA-@Dec 23 2005, 07:46 PM

im having trouble finding a site with a good selection of hardcore and alien. how about montana black or gold?

 

oh right. thats because montana makes only a certain amount of paint every year and they've already stopped for this year. production should start up again after Jan. 1st i think.

 

seems like these sites might still have some, i dunnao if u already checked 'em out though.

 

www.wildartmedia.com

 

www.liquidcrack.net

 

i usually order from artprimo but i have ordered from these places before and i think they still have some paint (artprimo is out :( )

 

ive never used montana black/gold, ive heard they work fine but only work well with the caps u can get from their site. (the gold, silverlevel, etc.) but i cant really help u there.

 

belton is alright too but ive mostly seen it used for graff, not stencils on canvas.

 

ive always used spanish montana because its more of a universal paint and works with many kinds of caps.... they also had the montana name first, and german montana always seems to be more expensive.

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another question. if i did get montana black which is high power are there caps that will make it spray like a low power can? and how is montana gold both high and low pressure?

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i think if u use wider caps on like a level 4 or 5 on montana black then it will make it like a lower pressure can.... but im not really sure

 

i think montana gold is both a high and low pressure can because the pressure varies on how hard u press on the cap. it has some sorta spring in it that reacts differently to how u press down on the cap. im not 100% sure though... it seems like if this was the case though, it would take some practice and getting used too for good can control... but it maight be useful, high pressure for covering large areas and low for doing detail work. this could definetly be an advantage when piecing... i dont think it would help @ all with stencils.

 

u got me interested in montana gold now karma, might have to try it out sometime... but spanish montana is cheaper and seems... i dunno... better. but maybe its just me.

 

christ. i hope SR is back soon

 

peace

 

mania

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haha, i hope SR gets up soon too. i'm gonna order some montana soon anyway. im either going with black or hardcore. probabaly hardcore if people stock it soon. Black's the same price and same amount of paint but hardcore has a cooler can :0 and since you reccomend it i think ill get that. Are you on the east coast mania?

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NC

 

i'm goign to all kinds of forums to see if anyone knows where to buy montana where i live. ive had a little luck.

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Originally posted by hana@Dec 23 2005, 11:20 PM

let's keep on keeping this thread alive..

 

 

yeah, i have some stuff i need to get pictures of then ill post them up. im gonna stencil all day tommorrow too so ill post what comes out ok

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yea. i wont be able to put anything up on the streets until after xmas but i definetly have some later. gotta get something new though... hmmm...

 

 

really? u can get montana in NC? what in Rowley im guessing? thats fukt up u cant find it anywhere in richmond and richmond probably has a bigger art scene/graff scene.

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Originally posted by [mania�

,Dec 23 2005, 11:34 PM]

yea. i wont be able to put anything up on the streets until after xmas but i definetly have some later. gotta get something new though... hmmm...

 

 

really? u can get montana in NC? what in Rowley im guessing? thats fukt up u cant find it anywhere in richmond and richmond probably has a bigger art scene/graff scene.

 

well, apparently there WAS a shop that sold it in charlotte but they closed last year :( But i think there may be another

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oh, charlotte. yea i get down to NC sometimes in the summer. OBX 'n shit. would be cool to be able to pic up some paint.

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