8onus Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY STRATERA, RITALIN AND ALL THAT OTHER BULLSHIT THAT IS BACKED BY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF RESEARCH DON'T DO SHIT FOR ME, BUT HALF A BLUNT AND IM STRAIGHT. yeah so pretty much im done with all the shrinky mother fuckers, those bitches are all faggots trying to get they co-pay. this doc perscribed me this shit stratera, i took for three days and felt like ass for all three days so i stopped, come to find out the FDA blackboxed the shit for suicidal tendenicies and adult users have a 20% rate of mania, and a 7& rate of IMPOTENCE!!!! FUCK THAT I AINT GOING OUT LIKE THAT. fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 because ritlin is just supposed to make you think your better......its all in your head.......it seems like they actually just put ideas into your head that your fucked up..........thats just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbaOner Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 all you need is love.. beep boob beedoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neskoner Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 no matter what pills they put you on..you will come out worse than you went in..without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Buncha ignorance in this thread. Ritalin does not "put ideas in your head". It's speed, it's supposed to focus the ideas that are in your head. If it doesn't work for you, don't take it. I tried it, didn't like it, switched to Adderall and it works. And as for the "pills always make you worse" statement, that's a sweepingly generalized load of horseshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by 12:02p.m@Nov 10 2005, 02:36 AM because ritlin is just supposed to make you think your better......its all in your head.......it seems like they actually just put ideas into your head that your fucked up..........thats just my opinion Quoted post i see what you're saying in general thats true, but i been down with ADD and dislexia since the streets. back in the 80s before the whole ADD thing blew up i was one of goergetown's test bunnies, the went to the worst schools and found the worst kids and figured we all had ADD...go figure? but now they're saying you out grow the shit...if you do, in my opinion you never had it to begin with, cause i aint outgrown shit, i still suck at school no matter what i do. but regardless, the conditions are real (to some extent) but the drugs are BS. let me put it like this: most the time the cock suckin medical industry creates a disease and then the over priced drug to cure it in this case they took some shit that very few people have(like what this nigga got!) and told every mother fucker they had it, and made a killin. i dont think ADD is diagnosible before the age of 19 because the symptoms of ADD ADHD are the same symptoms of being a kid. but if you're 21 years old and punching holes in the wall cause you can't read more than a sentence without going ape shit, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 10 2005, 02:47 AM Ritalin does not "put ideas in your head". And as for the "pills always make you worse" statement, that's a sweepingly generalized load of horseshit. Quoted post naw but the cocksucking doctors do! i've probally done more research on this shit than the Dr who wrote your perscription. and i swear to you all 80% of those diagnosed dont have anything that a little exercise and an orgasm wont balance out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Actually, I'm pretty sure you haven't done more research then the doctor who wrote my prescription unless you have more than one medical degree. And of course Ritalin and Adderall are over-prescribed to kids, old news. What's bullshit is saying that ALL pharmacuticals harm you. That's the kind of thinking that gets people killed, trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 9 2005, 11:47 PM Buncha ignorance in this thread. Ritalin does not "put ideas in your head". It's speed, it's supposed to focus the ideas that are in your head. If it doesn't work for you, don't take it. I tried it, didn't like it, switched to Adderall and it works. And as for the "pills always make you worse" statement, that's a sweepingly generalized load of horseshit. Quoted post well i meant by taking it you have the idea in your head that the doctors give you....which is basically you need to take this to be normal...they might not say it like that but most doctors do hint at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardofzeus Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I agree, Children especially are generally full of energy and hyper-activity and far too often are misdiagnosed as having ADD. I'd say thats nothing a little discipline wont cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 and i hear ya 8onus.....about the doctors creating problems and shit.....i went to a psychologist (spelling?) once because i thought maybe i was alittle depressed.......he basically just told me all the problems in my life and basically brought me down and made me depressed for real, when really i was just having a bad week at work.....i agree with you on that point totally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChupacabra Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Fermentor knows what hes talking about. the rest of you don't. Sure, not all pills work for all people, and for some people pills aren't going to help at all. But honestly, you people are making the most ridiculous generalizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChupacabra Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by 8onus@Nov 10 2005, 03:50 AM let me put it like this: most the time the cock suckin medical industry creates a disease and then the over priced drug to cure it in this case they took some shit that very few people have(like what this nigga got!) and told every mother fucker they had it, and made a killin. Quoted post Is ADD over diagnosed? yes. Did the medical industry "create" the disorder and then make a drug to cure it solely to make money? no fucking way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by 12:02p.m+Nov 10 2005, 07:59 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (12:02p.m - Nov 10 2005, 07:59 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-fermentor666@Nov 9 2005, 11:47 PM Buncha ignorance in this thread. Ritalin does not "put ideas in your head". It's speed, it's supposed to focus the ideas that are in your head. If it doesn't work for you, don't take it. I tried it, didn't like it, switched to Adderall and it works. And as for the "pills always make you worse" statement, that's a sweepingly generalized load of horseshit. Quoted post well i meant by taking it you have the idea in your head that the doctors give you....which is basically you need to take this to be normal...they might not say it like that but most doctors do hint at it. Quoted post [/b] Yeah, well those kind of doctors are stupid and unfortunatly there are a lot of them out there that will just throw pills at a child and leave it at that. I had a doctor do that to me when I was 17 and it wound up doing a lot of harm. And in order to get out of the place that I wound up I was forced to take more medication. 6 months out and I stopped taking it cold-turkey. 5 years later and I find out that by getting prescribed that first drug (Zoloft), the doctor recklessly disregarded my family history and either didn't care enough or was purposely trying to fuck me over. Either way, I started taking medication (aside from the Adderal) again this year and it helps. I feel comfortable with it and my doctor monitors me closely to make sure there are no ill-effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 1. i aint saying all pharmacuticles are bad, at all, aderall seems to be the best outa all of them, i am saying that the condition at hand is outta hand. 2. i happen to have 5 medical degrees including 3 masters in ghetto pharmacology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Also, and then I'm done for tonight, if you decide to start seeing a therapist or psychiatrist, you need to be ready to be in it for the long haul. Therapy can take months to years to be effective. If you're not ready to face yourself then don't go because you'll come out blaming the therapist for your problems. And don't start talking about how years of therapy would be too expensive because there's tons of free clinics out there and there's just as many good and bad doctors in there as there are ones who charge you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 no yeah....its actually really fucked up that most doctors dont give a shit and think by throwing pills out there going to help you out......i mean especially when people just think somethings wrong because of a bad day or something......i mean i know there are people who are truely depressed and really do had ADD.... but for the most i think the percentage of people who actually have it are kind of small.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by 8onus@Nov 10 2005, 08:08 AM 1. i aint saying all pharmacuticles are bad, at all, aderall seems to be the best outa all of them, i am saying that the condition at hand is outta hand. 2. i happen to have 5 medical degrees including 3 masters in ghetto pharmacology Quoted post 1. Wasn't talking to you, was referring to MakeItHappen's statement. 2. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by MrChupacabra+Nov 10 2005, 03:06 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrChupacabra - Nov 10 2005, 03:06 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-8onus@Nov 10 2005, 03:50 AM let me put it like this: most the time the cock suckin medical industry creates a disease and then the over priced drug to cure it in this case they took some shit that very few people have(like what this nigga got!) and told every mother fucker they had it, and made a killin. Quoted post Is ADD over diagnosed? yes. Did the medical industry "create" the disorder and then make a drug to cure it solely to make money? no fucking way. Quoted post [/b] oh you would be SO surprised herres what most people dont know: methalyin, the oriigigonal(im drunk fuck spelling) ritalin generic was created to help inner city kids. this whole ADD thing was focused on ghetto kids like yours truly cause there was a strong beliefe that the condition ADHD and histories of parental drug abuse where related. however: when private practices started using the drugs with suburban school kids the big companies shifted thier marketing and focus to where the dollars were. there was only a span of 3 months where the drugs treatment were even near focused on lower income students. what else? the schools looooooove it! they dont care if the kids ADHD or just a normal slightly animated kid. schools teachers and nurses are recomending to parents now more than ever to medicated thier kids cause makes thier jobs easier, not neccessarily cause its good for the kids best interest. AND THATS REAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 and its really fucked up........i mean its kind of sad how they know that there just making the kids life fucked up and yet they really dont give a fuck.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neskoner Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 10 2005, 02:47 AM And as for the "pills always make you worse" statement, that's a sweepingly generalized load of horseshit. Quoted post i know my comment doesnt apply to everyone and isnt completely true,i am not a pharmacist and i dont know every side effect of a pill.. I do have ADD but i choose not to rely on a pill,not everyone that takes pills comes out worse than they started,i did over exagerate by saying that..but most scenerios im familiar with just end up worse..not everyone,but alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 how do you know if you truely have ADD? i mean i get off track most of the time too but i dont think i have ADD...i mean how do you know you truely have it? thats not directed at you makeithappen im just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Being adult ADD is whack as fuck. I've gotten way better at controlling it on my own over the years than any medicine was able to do for me. There are different severities of it and i was fuckin off square as a kid. Personally for me my problem is just like in a commercial i saw where when you are trying to focus on a task and out of no where i would have a series of random flash backs none of which were related to each other. I believe it has something to do with your synapses miss firing. Anywho, its not all good because it happens when im driving when im supposed to be paying attention to whats going on around me and then I'll be a few miles down the road and wont remember a mile or two that i have just driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungoverseas Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 adderall and i used to have some good times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiondeficitdisorders Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've been through a bunch of that shit because I thought I was out of my mind. I've taken several drugs for "add" as well as several others for anxiety. All of those drugs had adverse side affects and made me feel like shit. Everyone is "wired" the way they are intended to be. This is the first thing I've posted after a year of being on this thing. Its kinda funny that this is the first thing that I've been interested in enough to post somthing. ents oner a2dk(add crew) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 My sister takes a couple different pills for a couple different things and I'd say they've helped her immensely. So there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiondeficitdisorders Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Come to find out I think it was just all those highschool years of trippin acid, rollin E, and blowin coke that did it. I feel oK now, just a little thrashed. As far as 1/2 a blunt? fuck it Ive been there too, that shit won't give you half the side affects as pharmaceuticals. Three years since I've done any drugs other than alcohol or herb and I think I'm alright, I just chilled out a lot on all consumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attentiondeficitdisorders Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Also mckftso I didnt read your post before that,but it may answer some questions as well. I'm not starting an argument. I'm not stupid, I'm just adding what i've learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraday Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 i have adult add.. i take adderall. it's helped me a lot, especially when i really need to focus. i'm more organized now and i can multitask, which makes me feel more confident and in return has made me happier. i can still zone out, so i know part of it is habit so eventually i want to get off the meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraday Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 oh yea.. one major downside to having adderall: if you tell your friends, they hit you up for your pills constantly. i have to hide them sometimes because i've noticed my script being short. f-ing weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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