BURLAP Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 our founders wanted government as limited as possible, and interferring with "we the people" as little as possible. yes, and then corporations evolved and now government is 'the shadow cast by corporations'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KING BLING Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by angelofdeath@Nov 30 2005, 05:26 AM and Kabar is dead on with the constitution. it applies only to US citizens, and within the US. I think international law is bullshit anyway, and do not believe US law should be rewritten to satisfy some international body. Quoted post No one was denying that others are not protected by our constitution, could you give some feedback on my points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by KING BLING+Nov 30 2005, 05:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KING BLING - Nov 30 2005, 05:37 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-angelofdeath@Nov 30 2005, 05:26 AM and Kabar is dead on with the constitution. it applies only to US citizens, and within the US. I think international law is bullshit anyway, and do not believe US law should be rewritten to satisfy some international body. Quoted post No one was denying that others are not protected by our constitution, could you give some feedback on my points? Quoted post [/b] I think your points are valid. our government running around trying to be the world police and spreading humanity is not a vital US interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURLAP Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 why not? is securing resources and trade routes(aka 'spreading democracy') not vital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Originally posted by KaBar2@Nov 12 2005, 03:49 PM King Bling--- The U.S. constitution does not apply outside of the United States. It is only in effect within the U.S. borders. Quoted post guantanamo is considered US soil. and so the stress positions, sleep deprivation, lack of religious practice, white noise treatments, cold air pumping, forced nudity, eyc...are all crimes. you trust this goverment too much just like any baby boomer i know. GOOD GOVERNMENT BULLSHIT. cruel and unusual punishment. i'm moving to canada wher the weed flows free and the murder rate is laughable. not to mention the news isn't aimed at scaring people to sleep at night. FUCK BUSH. FUCK REPUBLICANS FUCK DEMOCRATS FUCK FALSE MERIT BASED SYSTEMS. FUCK WAR. FUCK RELIGION. AND FUCK MY 401K caue it'llget stolen by some asshead who's boy's with bush somewhere down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Man. And I thought I was a cynic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KING BLING Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Originally posted by angelofdeath+Dec 1 2005, 04:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (angelofdeath - Dec 1 2005, 04:36 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by KING BLING@Nov 30 2005, 05:37 PM <!--QuoteBegin-angelofdeath@Nov 30 2005, 05:26 AM and Kabar is dead on with the constitution. it applies only to US citizens, and within the US. I think international law is bullshit anyway, and do not believe US law should be rewritten to satisfy some international body. Quoted post No one was denying that others are not protected by our constitution, could you give some feedback on my points? Quoted post I think your points are valid. our government running around trying to be the world police and spreading humanity is not a vital US interest. Quoted post [/b] Have you ever seen the Cobert Report? It basicly mocks right wing news like Fox...He does this thing where he allows someone to talk in a rational articulate way and than ignores what they just said and asks the same question over again or agrees with the absolute wrong point. You just did that I think - or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KING BLING Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 January 9th, 2006 12:59 pm Egypt 'has proof' US questioned suspects in Romania BERN (AFP) - A fax sent by the Egyptian foreign ministry to its embassy in London stated that more than 20 Iraqis and Afghans had been questioned at a US-run base in Romania, a Swiss newspaper reported. SonntagsBlick said the Swiss secret services obtained a copy of the fax which said that the Egyptian embassy in London "learned from its own sources that 23 Iraqi and Afghan citizens had been questioned at the Mikhail Kogalniceanu base in the town of Constanza on the Black Sea coast". The newspaper quoted a report written by the Swiss defence ministry which said Egypt believed there were "similar centres in Ukraine, Kosovo, Macedonia and Bulgaria". The Swiss ministry reacted to the report with a statement saying it would open an investigation into how the information was leaked. However, because the report is supposed to be secret, the ministry refused to comment on its contents. A senior officer at the Mikhail Kogalniceanu base told AFP on Sunday that he categorically denied the report. "I have been working at this base since 1995 and I have never been aware of such an operation," the officer, Dan Buciuman, said. He added that the base was open to "anyone who wants to carry out an investigation". Amid protests from European governments that their airports are being used by the Central Intelligence Agency to transport suspects, the United States has not denied the existence of alleged prisons in eastern and central Europe and elsewhere, but has refuted allegations that it uses torture to obtain information. US television network ABC reported in December that the US had held 11 senior members of the Al-Qaeda network in Poland but that they were evacuated to north Africa shortly before US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice toured Europe that month. During a stop in Bucharest, Rice signed an agreement with Romania to establish permanent US military bases in the country, the first ever in a former Warsaw Pact nation. The new US military presence will have its headquarters at Mikhail Kogalniceanu. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestne...dex.php?id=5454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 fuck we already got secert police, we got people spying against one another reporting un-american activities to the fbi etc man this country has gone to hell and is just getting worse fuck it man look at padilla he is still locked up the finally just charged him and sent him to regular courts and he is a american citizen who did nothing illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__ __ __ __ Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 DUH... where u people been since the 1800s.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 hey kids secret prison are good! either you joing the army and torture people or get tortured! its fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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