Vagitarians, Take Notice!

[turnout]

edit for drunken ramblings...

 

The topic is not trivial. That was a poor statement that I made. It was out of frustration. I don't generally like to think that anything is trivial...I did earlier though. The whole argument around all of this seems to take steps away from anything productive. I could be wrong in assuming that though. I simply don't see any large meat producers making any changes. Just as I don't see PETA doing anything very productive either. There is some middle ground somewhere that can do some work... still drunk...don't feel much like trying to make any more sense here right now.

 

My wearing plastic shoes instead of leather doesn't help much either. They won't exactly biodegrade or anything...that is where the guilt comment comes from.

[Lonesome Cowboy Bill]

humans are animals...we are carnivores that can also subsist on plants.. most of my fellow great apes eat meat, as most of the Primate Order (or whatever the term is). We didn't evolve to be vegetarians...

 

 

I don't care what no vegan says, obviously the lack of red meat shrivles their brains...

 

 

all iI know is meat is good for you, I like the taste, I get sick if I go more than 24 hours w/o it, and lastly

 

 

 

I DON"T GIVE A FUCK HOW THE ANIMAL LIVED OR DIED ITS HORRIBLE LIFE!!!!

 

 

AS LONG AS ITS COOKED WELL DONE I AM HAPPY AND DON"T CARE

 

 

 

FUCK VEGETARIANS...

[T.T Boy]

fuck vegetarians is like saying fuck niggers.

your an idiot.

enjoy meat for all i care, i just dont understand why youd say fuck vegetarians. your probably one of those guys who says fuck that country called europe too right.

 

you dont need meat to survive. period.

[Lonesome Cowboy Bill]

fuck niggers

[heavyLox]

your brilliant glad all that meat energy is being put to good use.

[!@#$%]

Originally posted by Lonesome Cowboy Bill@Jan 29 2006, 03:50 PM

questions for vegans: should animals also become vegans? like my cat, a dog, a wolf, a bald eagle etc..please let me know, I want to start a new movement

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no.

the vegans i knew fed their dog meat

 

 

unoless you get real fancy dog food

google that shit, there is a frightening amount of info on it

http://www.vegetariandogs.com/

[rainfall]

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Trivial?

 

I love hamburgers and steak and all that, but all the resources that are used feeding cows in order to produce the meat that you buy at the store is hardly trivial, say, in a discussion about world hunger.

 

I'm totally pulling this out of my ass, but I feel like I've read the statistics somewhere. But will me not eating meat make any sort of difference? No fucking way.

 

With that logic its saying its okay to be racist, right? I mean it makes no difference if ONE PERSON is against racism, then why be against it????

 

Many people are against eating meat because of the cruelity to animals and, like you said, the resources that are needed to feed animals inwhich we eat. Eighty percent of our agriculture is used to feed livestock (Atleast that much).

 

Firstly, I dont eat meat because of a bet I made with a vegetarian, but recently I realized I dont need meat and I dont want to eat it anymore. I am only one person, but I can spread the word to others out there and offer my opinion on the matter of healthy lifestyles for people and the world alike.

 

BUMP THIS THREAD !!

[CACashRefund]

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hippie

[rainfall]

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I would feel more writers would look into becoming, or understanding, why someone becomes vegan/vegetarian solely on the fact that many writers write based on the idea of FUCK THE SYSTEM. But yet calling someone a hippie feels that these people enjoy living in the society that hates them.

 

Or maybe its late and im ranting.

[madsencarl]

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MEAT IS MURDER!

 

 

Tasty, tasty murder.

[*PROTOCOL*]

Re: Vegetarians, Take Notice!

 

THOREAU

I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals.

 

GHANDHI

He was a vegetarian. His parents, being devout Hindus, never gave him meat, fish, or eggs.

"I do feel that spiritual progress does demand at some stage that we should cease to kill our fellow creatures for the satisfaction of our bodily wants." -

 

 

PYTHAGORAS

"Oh, my fellow men, do not defile your bodies with sinful foods. We have corn, we have apples bending down the branches with their weight, and grapes swelling on the vines. There are sweet-flavored herbs, and vegetables which can be cooked and softened over the fire, nor are you denied milk or thyme-scented honey. The earth affords a lavish supply of riches, of innocent foods, and offers you banquets that involve no bloodshed or slaughter: only beasts satisfy their hunger with flesh, and not even all of those, because horses, cattle, and sheep live on grass." The biographer Diogenes tells us that Pythagoras ate bread and honey in the morning and raw vegetables at night. He would also pay fisherman to throw their catch back into the sea.

 

PLUTARCH

"Can you really ask what reason Pythagoras had for abstinence from flesh? For my part I rather wonder both by what accident and in what state of mind the first man touched his mouth to gore and brought his lips to the flesh of a dead creature, set forth tables of dead, stale bodies, and ventured to call food and nourishment the parts that has a little before bellowed and cried, moved and lived. How could eyes endure the slaughter when throats were slit and hides flayed and limbs torn from limb"

How could his nose endure the stench? How was it that the pollution did not turn away his taste, which made contact with sores of others and sucked juices and serums from mortal wounds? It is certainly not lions or wolves that we eat out of self-defense; on the contrary, we ignore these and slaughter harmless, tame creatures without stings or teeth to harm us. For the sake of a little flesh we deprive them of sun, of light, of the duration of life to which they are entitled by birth and being."

He then delivered this challenge to flesh-eaters: "If you declare that you are naturally designed for such a diet, then first kill for yourself what you want to eat. Do it, however, only through your own resources, unaided by cleaver or cudgel or any kind of ax."

 

LEONARDI DA VINCI

"He who does not value life does not deserve it." He considered the bodies of meat-eaters to be "burial places," graveyards for the animals they eat. His notebooks are full of passages that show his compassion for living creatures. He lamented, "Endless numbers of these animals shall have their little children taken from them, ripped open, and barbarously slaughtered."

"I have learned from an early age to abjure the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men."

 

JEAN JACQUES ROUSSEAU He maintained that meat-eating animals are generally more cruel and violent than herbivores. Therefore a vegetarian diet would produce a more compassionate person. He even advised that butchers not be allowed to testify in court or sit on juries.

 

ADAM SMITH

STATED the advantages of a vegetarian diet. "It may indeed be doubted whether butchers' meat is anywhere a necessary of life. Grain and other vegetables, with the help of milk, cheese, and butter, or oil, where butter is not to be had, afford the most plentiful, the most wholesome, the most nourishing, and the most invigorating diet. Decency nowhere requires that any man should eat butchers' meat."

 

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN

He became a vegetarian at the age of sixteen. Franklin said "greater progress, from that greater clearness of head and quicker apprehension." In his autobiographical writings, he called flesh-eating "unprovoked murder."

 

THOMAS EDISON

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages."

 

SHELLEY

was a committed vegetarian. In his essay "A Vindication of Natural Diet," he wrote, "Let the advocate of animal food force himself to a decisive experiment on its fitness, and as Plutarch recommends, tear a living lamb with his teeth and, plunging his head into its vitals, slake his thirst with the steaming blood ... then, and then only, would he be consistent."

Shelley's interest in vegetarianism began when he was a student at Oxford, and he and his wife, Harriet, took up the diet soon after their marriage. In a letter dated March 14, 1812, his wife wrote to a friend, "We have foresworn meat and adopted the Pythagorean system." Shelley, in his poem Queen Mab, described a Utopian world where men do not kill animals for food.

... no longer now He slays the lamb that looks him in the face, And horribly devours his mangled flesh, Which, still avenging Nature's broken law, Kindled all putrid humors in his frame, All evil passions, and all vain belief, Hatred, despair, and loathing in his mind, The germs of misery, death, disease and crime. The Russian author Leo Tolstoy became a vegetarian in 1885.

Giving up the sport of hunting, he advocated "vegetarian pacifism" and was against killing even the smallest living things, such as the ants. He felt there was a natural progression of violence that led inevitably to war in human society. In his essay "simply immoral, as it involves the performance of an act which is contrary to moral feeling - killing."

 

TOLSTOY

By killing, Tolstoy believed, "man suppresses in himself, unnecessarily, the highest spiritual capacity - that of sympathy and pity towards living creatures like himself - and by violating his own feelings becomes cruel."

"A human can be healthy without killing animals for food. Therefore, if he eats meat he participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite."

 

PAUL and LINDA McCARTNEY

"We stopped eating meat many years ago. During the course of a Sunday lunch, we happened to look out of the kitchen window at our young lambs playing happily in the fields. Glancing down at our plates, we suddenly realised we were eating the leg of an animal who had until recently been playing in a field herself. We looked at each other and said "Wait a minute, we love these sheep - they're such gentle creatures. So why are we eating them?" It was the last time we ever did."

[Dakota]

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I like my chickens beheaded, sodomised and quartered before they're cooked.

 

My diets good, just need moar sunlight otherwise gonna get owned by rickets.

[rainfall]

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As funny and clever as calling someone a faggot.

[DEE38]

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quote:

eating meat again has made me healthier because i dont have an iron deficiency anymore.

 

thats totally me in highschool. i went 2 years with seafood+chicken (no red meat.) i didnt know why i got so sick all the time! my immune system went on an all time low. it sucked. as soon as i eased red meat back into my life i felt better. i talked to some people about it and they said i should of took vitamins throughout that period. sucks.

[Spitfire15]

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Until animals sign a sort of contract or agreement saying they dont want to be eaten anymore then im ganna go ahead and eat them

[crime stoppers]

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I eat red meat all the time, although i used to be a vegetarian so i can see most peoples points of views as reasonable. But humans are still classified as animals, and animals, well some of them, eat meat so until we evolve to the point that were better than everything else, which we have a way to go, im gonna keep eating meat cos it takes fuckin delicious. Were still part of the food chain, our position it doesnt mean fuck all to me as to whether we should or shouldn't eat meat, its nature.

 

...and it tastes magical delicious.

[Zoes]

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Your are what you eat.

 

I prefer living flesh over dead.

[blood fart]

Re: Vegetarians, Take Notice!

 

I don't eat meat.

Nothing to do with caring about health.

Seeing how I smoke and drink.

I like animals.

More so when they are alive.

 

 

 

I can tell when i go somewhere and they put lard in the beans or chicken fat in the gravy.

Or at least, my internal workings can tell.

[Spitfire15]

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"Wait...lemme get this straight. Youre system kickin' back..........broth?!"

[MARRERO BEAST]

does anyone know of any proffesional athletes that are vegetarians.

[Zoes]

Damon Stoudamire

Desmond Howard

Carl Lewis

Joe Namath

John Salley

Bill Walton

Martina Navratilova

Billie Jean King

BJ Armstrong

 

Hank Aaron has been for years, not sure if he was in his prime

 

Also a ton of professional skaters

[wayne hits]

my exgirl made me a vegetarian. after i dumped her

i ate mcdonalds just to piss her off.

[serum]

i hate this fucking topic.

people are retards, plain and simple,

some come with or without drool.

[26SidedCube]

I've been both for prolonged periods of time, and I think I've found a nice balance between veg and meat-eater.

 

 

Lately (for the past 8+ months) I've been on this 'I just don't like cheap meat' kick.

 

It's not that I don't like meat, or that I view eating it as some sort of philosophical debbacle that needs careful consideration, it's that I can't afford to eat the meat I like on a regular basis.

 

So I eat two or three nice cuts of steak every month, and that's as much red meat as I'll eat.

 

 

 

 

 

*I'm also HEAVILY active for 2-5 hours per day (skating, lifting, odd landscaping jobs), and I rarely get fatigued - so anyone who says you need a constant intake of the red stuff to feel healthy is on some nonsense.

[Zoes]

i hate this fucking topic.

people are retards, plain and simple,

some come with or without drool.

 

Posting on a thread about a topic that you obviously despise clearly isn't retarded at all

[count chocula]

my exgirl made me a vegetarian. after i dumped her

i ate mcdonalds just to piss her off.

 

 

haha.. awesome

[Bojangles]

I just ate 2 big bologna sandwiches while reading this...no joke.

[wayne hits]

haha.. awesome

 

she managed a 5 star restraunt. head chef. she once told me

if i didnt step up my "palate" or whatever she'd get rid of me.

 

so i ate mcdonalds to piss her off after i dumped her.

[serum]

Posting on a thread about a topic that you obviously despise clearly isn't retarded at all

 

if that was supposed to be a witty remark i'm guessing you're either about 17

or really suck at life.

[Zoes]

Who's wasting their time reading threads about topics they fucking hate?