ODS-1 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 My city was thinking about getting a light rail system. They decided to build another bridge instead. (We already have 3 bridges that go over the same river). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHorton Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 You people realize that people rely on oil for a lot more than transportation, yes??? You need to burn 10 calories of oil to produce 1 calorie of food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Originally posted by JohnnyHorton@Sep 5 2005, 03:23 AM You people realize that people rely on oil for a lot more than transportation, yes??? You need to burn 10 calories of oil to produce 1 calorie of food. Quoted post elaborate on that statement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 What he's saying is that the production of the food we eat, no matter what it is, is so heavily industrialized that it takes at least 10 calories worth of oil to produce one calorie of food. Basically the human race has bred and populated the planet to a point that cannot be sustained by naturally growing food by individuals with no machinery. If we run out of oil with our current reliance on it, more than 75% of the population will starve to death within weeks unless something else can be figured out. We also rely on oil to produce the fertilizers and other chemicals that allow us to milk as much food as we do from soil that has been barren of nutrients for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryCurl Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I read somewhere that the next fuel trend is going to be BioDiesel. Engines can be converted to run off natural vegtable oil, which costs only $0.70 a gallon. The downside is that it takes a lot of corn to make vegtable oil, and your car will smell like food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 The government subsidizes our gas prices so they stay low. Thats why we arent paying $6 a gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryCurl Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 ^I should add though, that most of America's fertile agricultural land isn''t being used because too much vegtable production would drive down the prices (making it harder on smalltime farmers) and to allow equal production amoung the states. The Government literally pays farmers in certain areas not to grow anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Also, in case of a surplus of food, the government will dump boatloads of vegetables/fruits into the ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauler5150 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 In Australia we are paying around $1.30 a litre. It was under a $1 about 3 months ago. And our government heavily taxes fuels. Like most petrol stations make only 2c per litre on the fuel they sell. And to top it off, 2 of the biggest retail companires in the country are buying into the market by buying out service stations. So we will soon end up with a duopoly and then we will be really stuffed. So consider yourselves lucky in the States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neskoner Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Originally posted by ODS-1@Sep 4 2005, 10:33 PM My city was thinking about getting a light rail system. They decided to build another bridge instead. (We already have 3 bridges that go over the same river). Quoted post Yea this really pissed me off.a light rail is what we need.but i figure cincinnati would get one before us though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Originally posted by Mauler5150@Sep 5 2005, 01:42 AM $1.30 a litre. Quoted post "I don't want a large farva, I want a goddamned litrea cola." http://literacola.ytmnd.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isor357 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 George Bush is an oil kingpin. Its all his fault and hes making a killing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakatau Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 The arguement that europeans pay more for gas and we should stop bitching isn't fairly weighted. The European cities developed during a time when feet and hooves where the main mode of transportation. We grew (for the most part) on cars, with the exception of some Eastern cities. That's an apples to oranges kind of situation. If I could ride a bike to school and to work without devoting eight hours of my day doing it, I would. So I drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 The mass tansit in America is terrible in comparison to what is crackin in Europe. Everywhere i go here i am surrounded by tunnels and bridge tunnels. It would be impossible to get where i needed to go if i rode a bike everywhere. Even in some of the smallest towns i had been to in Germany when i lived there had at least one train station so that you could get the hell out if you needed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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