shai Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by fatalist+Sep 7 2005, 12:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fatalist - Sep 7 2005, 12:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by shai hulud@Sep 7 2005, 05:05 PM <!--QuoteBegin-fatalist@Sep 7 2005, 08:44 AM oh and my friend was almost jacked the other day. WTF?! Quoted post Soryy about that...is he all right? Quoted post yeah he jumped in his car and burnt out Quoted post [/b]Good stuff...I hope he left town. NOLA is no place to be right now. Now the evac is mandatory per Mayor Nagin...next thing it'll be shoot to kill per National Guard.....yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-O-D Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 LEMME TELL AL YA'LL MUTHAFUCKAS THE LOW DOWN STR8 FROM THE MU FUCKIN G-O-D THE GOVERMENT DID INDEED FAIL NEW ORLEANS, THEY ROLLED THROUGH 5 DAYS LATE. EVEN NOW ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING REACHED. MANY DECAYING DEAD BODIES ARE STILL FLOATING EVERYWHERE. THE WATER IS REPORTED TO CONTAIN E-COLI AND MANY OTHER TOXINS MOSQUITOS AND RATS ARE FEEDING AND BREEDING OFF THE DEAD, POTENTIALY CARRYING THE DISEASES, THIS HAS BECOME A PUBLIC HEALTH NIGHTMARE, ALOT OF THIS COULD BEEN PREVENTED, IF THE GOVERMENT DID IT'S JOB.. IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS AN INCREDIBLE WORK FORCE AND MORE THAN ENOUGH RECOURCES, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SUCH A SLUGGISH RESPONSE, DEFINITLEY OTHER FACTORS PLAY A ROLE.. I DON'T CARE WHAT N E OF YOU BUSH LOVING FUCKS SAY... THE GOVERNMENT FAILED THERE OWN PEOPLE, THEY CAN SEND TROOPS ACROSS THE GLOBE ON THE QUICKS, BUT CAN'T HOLD DOWN THERE OWN PEOPLE..THIS OVER RATED ASS COUNTRY.... SEE YOU IN HELL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-O-D Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 FROM HEAVEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 That Vid is intense... Im personally APPALLED at the lack of help Those poor people have been given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KING BLING Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 1) Who here can, in three days or less, just take a vacation? I know I can't just dip, jump on a greyhound and just go because something might happen with no end in sight...I might concider trying to stay, it isn't that unreasonable... These people could never have foreseen this level of damage ond insanity, thats why its such big news. 2) Also Glik0 I think your use of "Mooli" would get your chubby self stomped were you to go walking around using that word in the same neighborhoods that are helping you to develop such strong opinions of hood black people, you might want to check that. 3) To those who beleive in some way the city of New Orleans was responcible for the levees, here is a point I made in Crossfire http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=107560 Source: Reuters WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bush administration funding cuts forced federal engineers to delay improvements on the levees, floodgates and pumping stations that failed to protect New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina's floodwaters, agency documents showed on Thursday. The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation's waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 UN Report on American Poverty I was looking for stories on UN aid to NOLA, and found this....I don't know if Bush is going to like this. Oh, I don't see much about UN aid, btw...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 10 to 1 this kid is a 27 year old grad student who wears a scarf and smokes "American spirit" cigarettes. Your really looking out for the opressed, keep on keepin on my yuppy soul brotha. Shit, I really pushed some buttons, huh? If you reread my post, Stereotype, you'll notice that I didn't make any claims about who I am. Nor did I make any assumptions about who I was talking to, as I'd be afraid my guess would be as far off as yours. I'm just able to look at things from another perspective, and it pisses me off when people can't or won't do that because of whatever priveleges/handicaps they've been raised with. PM me if you've got anything else to say... i'm not going to turn this thread into some personal argument, especially with someone who has 140 posts on their "shit talking" screen name. Or better yet, go read the link in the above post if you think I'm making this shit up. Back on topic, I think Kanye is a douchebag generally, but what happened in NO is criminal, and I'm glad that he called Bush out on it. Granted, it was the wrong platform, but I don't think that it was meant as a publicity stunt-- if anything, it will probably hurt sales. And I don't think anyone watching that benefit is going to think that Kanye's views are shared by the Red Cross organization, and as a result, put their wallets back in their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumy Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 WORD UP KANYE, I SAW AN INTERVIEW WITH DUDE WHERE HE BASICALLY SAID IF HE DIDN'T SAY THE THINGS HE SAID THAT HE WOULD HAVE A GREAT CAREER AND TONS OF FANS AND WHATEVER BUT THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE FACT HE WAS A TOOL EVERYDAY, AND HE COULDN'T DO THAT..I CAN DIG IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraday Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by dumy@Sep 8 2005, 11:38 AM WORD UP KANYE, I SAW AN INTERVIEW WITH DUDE WHERE HE BASICALLY SAID IF HE DIDN'T SAY THE THINGS HE SAID THAT HE WOULD HAVE A GREAT CAREER AND TONS OF FANS AND WHATEVER BUT THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE FACT HE WAS A TOOL EVERYDAY, AND HE COULDN'T DO THAT..I CAN DIG IT Quoted post aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FADED5000 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 YO I THINK WHAT HE SAID WAS FUCKIN DOPE PREACH ON CHURCH YA AND I THOUGHT GLIKO SAYING "MOOLI"WAS RATHER FUCKED UP TOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumy Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 haha..i'm hoping that was a good laugh Sara.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraday Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 of course. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumy Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Sara, your sig is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Originally posted by dumy@Sep 8 2005, 01:23 PM Sara, your sig is awesome. Quoted post Yeah that's an awesome statement by Ann Rice. Here's the full thing if you haven't seen it: What do people really know about New Orleans? By Anne Rice Do they take away with them an awareness that it has always been not only a great white metropolis but also a great black city, a city where African-Americans have come together again and again to form the strongest African-American culture in the land? The first literary magazine ever published in Louisiana was the work of black men, French-speaking poets and writers who brought together their work in three issues of a little book called L'Album Littéraire. That was in the 1840's, and by that time the city had a prosperous class of free black artisans, sculptors, businessmen, property owners, skilled laborers in all fields. Thousands of slaves lived on their own in the city, too, making a living at various jobs, and sending home a few dollars to their owners in the country at the end of the month. This is not to diminish the horror of the slave market in the middle of the famous St. Louis Hotel, or the injustice of the slave labor on plantations from one end of the state to the other. It is merely to say that it was never all "have or have not" in this strange and beautiful city. Later in the 19th century, as the Irish immigrants poured in by the thousands, filling the holds of ships that had emptied their cargoes of cotton in Liverpool, and as the German and Italian immigrants soon followed, a vital and complex culture emerged. Huge churches went up to serve the great faith of the city's European-born Catholics; convents and schools and orphanages were built for the newly arrived and the struggling; the city expanded in all directions with new neighborhoods of large, graceful houses, or areas of more humble cottages, even the smallest of which, with their floor-length shutters and deep-pitched roofs, possessed an undeniable Caribbean charm. Through this all, black culture never declined in Louisiana. In fact, New Orleans became home to blacks in a way, perhaps, that few other American cities have ever been. Dillard University and Xavier University became two of the most outstanding black colleges in America; and once the battles of desegregation had been won, black New Orleanians entered all levels of life, building a visible middle class that is absent in far too many Western and Northern American cities to this day. The influence of blacks on the music of the city and the nation is too immense and too well known to be described. It was black musicians coming down to New Orleans for work who nicknamed the city "the Big Easy" because it was a place where they could always find a job. But it's not fair to the nature of New Orleans to think of jazz and the blues as the poor man's music, or the music of the oppressed. Something else was going on in New Orleans. The living was good there. The clock ticked more slowly; people laughed more easily; people kissed; people loved; there was joy. Which is why so many New Orleanians, black and white, never went north. They didn't want to leave a place where they felt at home in neighborhoods that dated back centuries; they didn't want to leave families whose rounds of weddings, births and funerals had become the fabric of their lives. They didn't want to leave a city where tolerance had always been able to outweigh prejudice, where patience had always been able to outweigh rage. They didn't want to leave a place that was theirs. And so New Orleans prospered, slowly, unevenly, but surely - home to Protestants and Catholics, including the Irish parading through the old neighborhood on St. Patrick's Day as they hand out cabbages and potatoes and onions to the eager crowds; including the Italians, with their lavish St. Joseph's altars spread out with cakes and cookies in homes and restaurants and churches every March; including the uptown traditionalists who seek to preserve the peace and beauty of the Garden District; including the Germans with their clubs and traditions; including the black population playing an ever increasing role in the city's civic affairs. Now nature has done what the Civil War couldn't do. Nature has done what the labor riots of the 1920's couldn't do. Nature had done what "modern life" with its relentless pursuit of efficiency couldn't do. It has done what racism couldn't do, and what segregation couldn't do either. Nature has laid the city waste - with a scope that brings to mind the end of Pompeii. I share this history for a reason - and to answer questions that have arisen these last few days. Almost as soon as the cameras began panning over the rooftops, and the helicopters began chopping free those trapped in their attics, a chorus of voices rose. "Why didn't they leave?" people asked both on and off camera. "Why did they stay there when they knew a storm was coming?" One reporter even asked me, "Why do people live in such a place?" Then as conditions became unbearable, the looters took to the streets. Windows were smashed, jewelry snatched, stores broken open, water and food and televisions carried out by fierce and uninhibited crowds. Now the voices grew even louder. How could these thieves loot and pillage in a time of such crisis? How could people shoot one another? Because the faces of those drowning and the faces of those looting were largely black faces, race came into the picture. What kind of people are these, the people of New Orleans, who stay in a city about to be flooded, and then turn on one another? Well, here's an answer. Thousands didn't leave New Orleans because they couldn't leave. They didn't have the money. They didn't have the vehicles. They didn't have any place to go. They are the poor, black and white, who dwell in any city in great numbers; and they did what they felt they could do - they huddled together in the strongest houses they could find. There was no way to up and leave and check into the nearest Ramada Inn. What's more, thousands more who could have left stayed behind to help others. They went out in the helicopters and pulled the survivors off rooftops; they went through the flooded streets in their boats trying to gather those they could find. Meanwhile, city officials tried desperately to alleviate the worsening conditions in the Superdome, while makeshift shelters and hotels and hospitals struggled. And where was everyone else during all this? Oh, help is coming, New Orleans was told. We are a rich country. Congress is acting. Someone will come to stop the looting and care for the refugees. And it's true: eventually, help did come. But how many times did Gov. Kathleen Blanco have to say that the situation was desperate? How many times did Mayor Ray Nagin have to call for aid? Why did America ask a city cherished by millions and excoriated by some, but ignored by no one, to fight for its own life for so long? That's my question. I know that New Orleans will win its fight in the end. I was born in the city and lived there for many years. It shaped who and what I am. Never have I experienced a place where people knew more about love, about family, about loyalty and about getting along than the people of New Orleans. It is perhaps their very gentleness that gives them their endurance. They will rebuild as they have after storms of the past; and they will stay in New Orleans because it is where they have always lived, where their mothers and their fathers lived, where their churches were built by their ancestors, where their family graves carry names that go back 200 years. They will stay in New Orleans where they can enjoy a sweetness of family life that other communities lost long ago. But to my country I want to say this: During this crisis you failed us. You looked down on us; you dismissed our victims; you dismissed us. You want our Jazz Fest, you want our Mardi Gras, you want our cooking and our music. Then when you saw us in real trouble, when you saw a tiny minority preying on the weak among us, you called us "Sin City," and turned your backs. Well, we are a lot more than all that. And though we may seem the most exotic, the most atmospheric and, at times, the most downtrodden part of this land, we are still part of it. We are Americans. We are you. ------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 That's probably one of the most beautiful, and saddest, things I've ever read about NOLA...too bad it's a requiem. I have no doubt that the city will come back, although it will be a changed place- New, New Orleans, or New Orleans v. 2.0. I was reading in the NOLA thread in brick slayers last night, and started crying for the first time since I started reading what people had to say here and elsewhere...the writers in that city seem to be mostly working-class, and stood to lose the most... there was a pic of a canvas and some cans floating in what I imagined to be someone's bedroom. That was followed by a post from someone who lost their grandmother in the storm, and a list of other people, plus the neighborhoods that were lost...After that, I lost it myself...I felt guilty for what I had, and oftentimes take for granted. There's kids there that were doing what I do, and probably weren't much different from me as far as their hopes and dreams went....and the reality of their surroundings, and dealing with a system that takes advantage of the disadvantaged so the rich can get richer. That's why they were using their creativity as a voice to shout out against the injustice they were faced with. And, now they've lost their city, along with all the work they put in on the streets of that city. I hope that they can prevail, and regain a little bit of what they had, and keep that voice alive, since that's why we're here in the first place...to hear that voice, and to acknowledge what it's trying to say to the world, in spite of adversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Well said shai, well said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Thanks..you should read the story sara posted today in the Katrina thread, as it validates a lot of the predictions I made, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 anyone heard the remixed song of 'George Bush Doesn't care about black people' ? too funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 My DSL is down...Keep the fire to their feet, everyone...I'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereotype V.001 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 nomadawhat- That's an interesting picture. Funny how certain "white" sections of Mississippi, where it didn't just flood but entire neighborhoods are just piles of debris now haven't seen a single SAR team yet. But yea, power to the people and whatnot. I don't know if anyone saw the fox news segment on Kanye West's remarks but it was hilarious, maybe someone has a clip of it. The douchebag starts off the segment by deliberately misquoting Kanye as saying "HATE" (which he put emphasis on). Then he got two minority commentators, one very calm conservative guy and a more liberal commentator who was provoked into yelling by being constantly cut off. The whole time they had footage of GWB hugging black people and shaking hands with black people in the background. The spin the network was trying to put on it was so obvious it was pathetic....but quality edutainment nonetheless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivita Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 man i give his ass props which in fact he's right bush really doesn';t give a fuck about anybody that won't make his ass better any ways how the fuck were they suppose leave they had the little shit that they own rarley OWNED a house and or didn't fucken own a car it's like if that hurricane was to hit cali bush would have let the mexican drown and said some stupid cooment like " they could swim they got to america didn't they?" and would let them die in their own shit .. he reallly doesn't give a shit kanye is one of the few rappers who raps about real shit instead of rapin about clubs and crack you don't sell....i think it's time for a revolution! in fact i think it's the end of the united states as much as i love my country this fucken president really fucked it up and you can't say he didn't tell me somthin he did that was good and was for a good intension that didn't involved him getting no money ....i would't be supprise if his ass is robbing our asses right now!!! peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 faux news is a circus. they always play "lets gang up on the liberal" on there. it's true, bush doesn't care about the american public in general. i honestly don't think he cares about anyone outside of his inner circle. he has basically fucked everyone in the country besides them. i'm surprised republicans have been goosestepping with him for so long after all the shit he's pulled, hurting alot of people, businesses, institutions, the economy, security.... everything. Republican party loyalty stupifies me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttekr Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 the fact that kanye west saw black people portrayed a certain way shows that he is a racist. i saw some of the news footage, but did not see blacks or whites...i only saw people. anyone that cant see that way i feel sorry for..kanye, ive lost all respect for you.. p.s. i got out of new orleans with the help of firemen from new orleans, new york, and other areas, the national guard gave me hot food and water, along with a pack of kools from one guardsman, which came out of his own pocket....i just wanted to say thank you.. we should all do what we can to help those in need..dont let the sins of the few distract you from the many good people needing help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 call his manager if you fel so strongly about it john monopoly jive records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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