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So Where's the Foreign Aid?

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SOmething occured to me this morning on the way to work...how come no one is offering to send u said to help deal with this disaster?

 

Maybe I have been asleep at the switch but has France, Britain, Russia, ANYONE sending money, supplies, aid of any sort? The only country i have heard of that offered aid was venezuela which is suprising in the wake of that idiot preacher running his mouth off.

 

The United States has always been first to offer aid, money and assistance in a majority of fucked up situations across the globe. Remember the tsunami when we donated the most cash and resources to assist? ANd when we were ciriticized for not helping out enough we doubled the aid being doled out to asia?

 

So now when we need help, when we need someone to get our back, all these mother fuckers just sit on their hands and watch. Don't give me this bullshit either about how "Oh kid, this is just us getting payback for fucking shit up in IRAQ." I don't think so.

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are you KIDDING?

 

we [DUBYA] TURNED AWAY ALL FOREIGN AID OFFERS

 

i think sri lanka is sending experts to help assess damage anyway

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Canadian agencies are saying that foreign aid is probably not being permitted into Louisiana and Mississippi because of "mass confusion" at the U.S. federal level in the wake of the storm.

 

 

http://storiesinamerica.dailykos.com/story...8/31/235829/261

US won't let Canada help Katrina victims

 

 

 

 

Nations hit by tsunami are offering to send aid

The New York Times, The Boston Globe, The Associated Press

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/02/news/react.php

 

Oddly, however, the administration of President George W. Bush evinced an ambivalent attitude toward the world's generosity. The president said that international aid was appreciated but unnecessary; other administration officials indicated that all offers of help would be gratefully accepted.

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The offers of foreign aid kept pouring in on Friday: helicopters from Canada, cash from Japan, tents and military aircraft from France, even oil from Venezuela, a political foe.

 

Asia-Pacific nations - including tsunami-battered Sri Lanka - promised Friday to send money and disaster relief experts to the United States to help deal with the aftermath of the storm.

 

Australia topped the list of nations in the Asia-Pacific in the region that pledged aid.

 

Japan and Singapore - which along with Australia are among Washington's strongest allies in the region - were also quick to promise help.

 

Some of Asia's poorer nations also offered to help, including some of those hit hardest by the last December's tsunami.

 

Sri Lanka, which received substantial U.S. military and other foreign aid after the tsunami killed more than 31,000 and displaced one million there, on Friday pledged $25,000 to the American Red Cross.

 

The government also urged Sri Lankan-born physicians living in the United States to volunteer their services to the relief effort.

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Originally posted by LENS@Sep 2 2005, 06:33 AM

The United States has always been first to offer aid, money and assistance in a majority of fucked up situations across the globe. Remember the tsunami when we donated the most cash and resources to assist? ANd when we were ciriticized for not helping out enough we doubled the aid being doled out to asia?

 

USA’s aid, in terms of percentage of their GNP has almost always been lower than any other industrialized nation in the world, though paradoxically in the last four years, their dollar amount has been the highest. (Only in 2004 did they move up from last place by one.)

Since 1992, Japan had been the largest donor of aid, in terms of raw dollars. That was until 2001 when the United States reclaimed that position, a year that also saw Japan’s amount of aid drop by nearly 4 billion dollars (as tables and charts below will also show).

 

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/D...lowonGNIpercent

 

 

We actually don't spend nearly as much as the rest of the rich world when you look at what we could offer. If a rich man gives me $5 it has little impact on his bottom line, but a poor man doing the same thing made a true gesture of concern and a sacrifice for his fellow man. You have the impression we are the only ones helping because our media, when experienced only passively, does not offer a well covered world review. When we are sending money to Tsunami victims, other countries are involved elsewhere in longer term projects...and the rest of the world does contribute at these times as well anyway

 

Know something before you say something...

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I thought we were pretty low-rung on the list of tsunami donators until shamed into adding to it.

 

Perhaps Bush doesn't want to accept donations of aid in order to avoid incurring a 'debt' to foreign nations.

 

That'd be fucked up.

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Yeah we offered something like $50,000 in the first place. Soon after that, Japan gave some amount in the millions and everyone started criticizing Bush for giving what amounts to a useless amount of pocket change on this scale.

 

Soon after they increased it greatly, our current government did not want to donate as much as they did by any means.

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are we really refusing aid that's offered in good faith over ideolgical differences? i'll bet that means a lot to people who haven't eaten in three days.

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It's like they don't give a fuck cause it's all poor black people in a Democratic city.

If it was rich white republicans, thousands of troops and other aid workers woulda been there the minute the storm let up. That's a fact. This is what happens when capitalism gets out of hand.

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Originally posted by SF1@Sep 2 2005, 11:06 PM

It's like they don't give a fuck cause it's all poor black people in a Democratic city. 

If it was rich white republicans, thousands of troops and other aid workers woulda been there the minute the storm let up. That's a fact. This is what happens when capitalism gets out of hand.

guessing by your name, you live in the bay, right? i was just thinking today, that back in 1989, when the quake happened, SF had emergency aid out the ass, and went about rebuilding almost as soon as the fires were out and the rubble cleared...and oakland, who had a two-mile stretch of freeway collapse in one of the poorest neighborhoods (i should know, i live here), well, the people who lived near the cypress structure were still pulling bodies out of the wreckage months later...and it happened less than a mile away from an army base...and two miles away from a naval air station. the neighborhood, sixteen years later, is still trying to come back...i wonder how much

money they were allocated, and how much they actually got? oh yeah, two years later, we had one of the biggest urban wildfires in state history here...but this time, it happened in the hills, where all the muckety-mucks live...and what do you know, half the firefighters in the state showed up! wow! and, everyone got their FEMA loot, red cross was there so fast you'd think they started the damn fire... and do you think they put the evacuees in the coliseum, for lack of a better place? if they did, then i don't remember it...it sure looked like they weren't struggling to me.

 

what scares me, is if oakland had some kind of disaster, natural or otherwise...what could we expect, in the way of federal help? i mean, we brought you barbara lee, who was brave enough to speak out against war right after 9-11...would that matter? the population of oakland, i imagine, is demographically not dissimilar from NOLA...we're even about the same size. hopefully, i'll never know, but our city does sit on a fault line...a lot of west oakland, port of oakland, and the airport is built on filled in bay land...also, we have dozens of refineries sitting less than a dozen miles away. i hope i never have to find out whether we're in the good graces of the feds, since i'm pretty sure i know now, having seen all the help new orleans recieved...or hasn't recieved, rather.

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but we have no problemo accepting venezuela's oil.

at least we know whats important

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Pathetic bastard, Castro wanted to send doctors, fuckin doctors!

Thats the best offer

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here's somthing to consider;

 

the size of california's economy is about the same as that of France.

California can do as much help for the victims as france can, to say nothing of proximity.

Foreign aid would be appreciated, but not really needed.

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Originally posted by LENS@Sep 2 2005, 02:33 PM

Remember the tsunami when we donated the most cash and resources to assist? ANd when we were ciriticized for not helping out enough we doubled the aid being doled out to asia?

 

I'm so tired of this myth that Americans donated the most. In total, yes, because it's a huge country. But on a per capita basis, which is more important, America is number 18. Number 18!!! That means that 17 countries have donated more per capita. And this in spite of the fact that America is the world's richest country.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donations_for...er_capita_basis

 

Of course we (Europe, Asia, Australia, ... whoever) should still donate to the USA. If they accept our help, that is.

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As far as i know Britain offered aid when the scale of the disaster became clear. It was declined.

 

The U.S has ignored offers from some of the worlds poorest nations including Cuba, Iran, Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Paraguay and El Salvador.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4216370.stm

 

EU countries are sending food and other supplies to the victims of Hurricane Katrina, after the US asked the EU and Nato for emergency help at the weekend.

 

Germany and the UK have already flown in more than 500,000 food rations.

 

France is flying tents, generators and water purifying plants from Martinique, and a Dutch frigate is taking medicine and helicopters to New Orleans.

 

Greece has offered two cruise ships to help house thousands of homeless people for several months.

 

Tiny Luxembourg has 1,000 camp beds and 2,000 blankets at the ready, and Sweden is providing equipment to restore mobile phone networks.

 

 

After the aid has been requested, we have basically been able to respond within 24 hours

EU spokeswoman Barbara Helfferich

 

According to an EU spokeswoman, a dozen EU countries have responded to Washington's request so far.

 

Romania, which has suffered devastating floods twice this year, is also taking part in the bloc's emergency operation - even though it has not yet joined the EU - by providing two medical teams.

 

EU spokeswoman Barbara Helfferich said European countries had moved quickly to help the Americans - despite a year of natural disasters at home, including severe forest fires in Spain and Portugal, and widespread floods throughout central and eastern Europe.

 

"Emergencies like that - forest fires, floods - happen all the time. We are prepared for it, and I can say that in this particular case we have reacted very speedily. After the aid has been requested, we have basically been able to respond within 24 hours," she said.

 

The aid is co-ordinated by a civil protection centre in the European Commission and by the UK, which currently holds the EU presidency.

 

Meanwhile, Nato has sent a liaison officer to Washington to assess America's needs.

 

The US ambassador to Nato, Victoria Nuland, thanked allies - many of whom are also members of the EU - for what she called the "outpouring of support, both emotional and concrete".

 

The US may not really need baby food from Italy or divers from Belgium, but its call for European and international help shows that, after the divisions over Iraq, it has now realised that even superpowers need friends.

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Now they should be asking, "Why does it take so long for you to get on the stick, George?"

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Originally posted by Tesseract@Sep 7 2005, 09:53 AM

"Emergencies like that - forest fires, floods - happen all the time. We are prepared for it, and I can say that in this particular case we have reacted very speedily.

 

who ever heard of such a thing

don't they know these people are worthless poor folk who don't vote?

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