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I'm glad some people are into oushing the envelope.

 

this is what inspired me...

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It's impossible not to see some kind of connection between what we

try do do, and what some sufi's have made into a lifelong process.

This is the art of the letterform, something we also practice.

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ive been fucking with arab handstyles for about a good year now. its something like any language that must be done properly (if you are using their letters) or you could wreck the whole thing without even knowing it. my cousin who speaks and writes about 10 languages fluently tried to teach me how to write it and let me tell you its so diffucult..... one dot could be the changing factor in the difference between writing dogfood and shopping cart. as they dont use all the letters we do theres quite a few missing and certain letters combined make new sounds and letters..... also..... trying to write without vowels isnt that easy either. and the whoe writing the other way is tough too. man am i rambling about useless facts. yeah. ive been trying to play with arab styles for a while now....

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clickright here!

(links to another post)

 

this guy has a great understanding of the arabic hand,

which really shines through in the work.

 

This is a perfect example of the inluence an understanding of the art of lettering

can have on a writers work.

 

Enjoy!

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you know what ill take back my remarks.. soley because i feel what im saying doesnt apply to graffiti writers more so to conversations ive been having earlier today about similar matters... specifically race and reperations.

 

 

so... i apologize.

 

 

graffiti writers.. to some extent have more respect to letters and writting then most other people ever do... your right...

 

so that wasnt an attack at you.

 

 

...there im a man enough to apologize.

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Originally posted by KING OF HELL

THE KING OF HELL thinks its fresh t mess around with other styles. WE use celtic letters qhuite a bit. but WE also read up and try to do them right. there are certain characteristics about writings and letters in other cultures that you have to have for it to work.

 

by the way..has anoyone seen TWISTS old faux arabic looking twist tags?????? sick is HELL....

post these tags you speak of almighty king

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As a student and resodent nerd of the handstyle phenomenon, I am both inspired and excited by both this and the recka post.

 

I will now return to monkhood in front of my sketchbook.

 

 

 

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have you heard the arabic language spoken?

 

hypnotic...

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bob you know we tend to agree on much art, but i happen to remember a time when you were screwing around with culturally influenced styles quite a bit. i think that artists leaning to arabic is something that has been a long time in the making anyone who sees an arabic calligraphic attempt understands its obvious beauty, and a writer can see its ability to stand as a specific handstyle, tho i full well agree with the fact that it shouldnt just be some half assed attempt to look like arabic, and from his attempts there was an understanding of flow and pen control that comes from looking at a lot of arabic, i think it looks really nice, i have been planning to get my "lord have mercy" tattoo in arabic for a real long time. to sit right next to the kufi that i feel like to much of a poseur to put on.

 

 

i do agree with bob on the buddhist xmas lites... but i also am a firm believer in the filling the bucket theory the more religious imagery comes into play in our demoniac culture the more religion is going to stand out and attract. shit urban outfitters also had murtis (dieties) of radha and krsna. does your average joe who hasnt researched vaishnava culture understand the relationship between krsna and radharani, no... but does he gain spiritual benefit by gazing at their image, of fucking course. my two cents. i gotta get some fucking pen control...

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Originally posted by *ZEMONEDOE$

fuck that.burn in hell.

im starting to hate imports more and more.

god bless the u.s and fuck the rest

 

hating on the rest of the world?!...now that's quite some beef ya got there fella..i bet your ignorance shows in your graff as well..

god bless the u.s. and fuck the rest...haha..corny..

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Guest BROWNer

i like 'em.

i think a good full on discussion of appropriation in

graffiti would be very interesting in how it relates

to the whole biting thing...especially from a fine

arts point of view...

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Okay, I have a question for anyone interested. Is it wrong to be influenced by someone else or their artwork? Is it wrong to seek to equal or improve upon their style?

In my opinion, we each have many spheres of influence. Some of them our our surroundings, and others are things which we seek for. Each person seeks for inspiration in one matter or another. We will most likely be influenced by the things which we search for. We each learn through emulation, and then hopefully from our own experience. Through personal experience we develop our own style. Our culture is an element of every step of the process of growth.

Our cultures are ever changing; they enter mix and divide frequently. We co-opt what we like from the way we live, and the way we want to live. I'd say that we all will enevitably bite. Hopefully, we realize when we are biting someone else's work, and try to make it original enough to be our own.

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Guest Dick Gozinya

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SUCH BEAUTIFUL HANDSTYLES CAN COME OUT OF SUCH A FILTHY PART OF THE WORLD. ALL THIS JIHAD NONSENSE PISSES ME OFF BEYOND BELIEF, BUT THOSE SCRIBES ARE SO SICK. TOO BAD THESE FILTHY FUCKS DAMAGE THE IMAGE OF IT ALL WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS CONQUESTS. I USUALLY DO THAT KINDA SHIT AND I STOPPED IT WHEN ALL THIS SHIT WENT DOWN IN SEPTEMBER. I THINK THOUGH WHEN THAT STYLE WAS DEVELOPED THOSE PEOPLE WERENT AS FILTHY AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, MAYBE ONLY HALF AS MUCH.......:D :D :D :D

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kagyu

 

Originally posted by Dick Gozinya

I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SUCH BEAUTIFUL HANDSTYLES CAN COME OUT OF SUCH A FILTHY PART OF THE WORLD. ALL THIS JIHAD NONSENSE PISSES ME OFF BEYOND BELIEF, BUT THOSE SCRIBES ARE SO SICK. TOO BAD THESE FILTHY FUCKS DAMAGE THE IMAGE OF IT ALL WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS CONQUESTS. I USUALLY DO THAT KINDA SHIT AND I STOPPED IT WHEN ALL THIS SHIT WENT DOWN IN SEPTEMBER. I THINK THOUGH WHEN THAT STYLE WAS DEVELOPED THOSE PEOPLE WERENT AS FILTHY AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, MAYBE ONLY HALF AS MUCH.......:D :D :D :D

 

even cops can have opinions

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See, if the Buddha was around today and found christmas lights in his image, he'd shell out and buy them to show his buddies. Buddha had a sense of humor, and so should you. There's nothing wrong with trying something on for size in your book or asking some friends what they think. Try a piece that looks like Cyrillic, Japanese, whatever. It's not super different than throwing some Cholo, NoNeg, or Wicket into your mix. Chances are against your doing anything that looks fly, ever, so why hold yourself back?

 

Another thing: What the fuck is the deal with people getting things tattooed on them in languages they can't read? I find that extremely suspect. I mean, if you're comfortable with the word for "power" or whatever in Chinese on your arm, why aren't you comfortable with the English word? Or are you too ashamed to have people around your way be able to read it?

 

Sonik3000

My back says

 

"THE PURPOSE OF LIFE IS TO BE HAPPY"

 

IN ENGLISH.

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Guest Dick Gozinya

???????

 

LOL - How does that make me a cop???????? LOL

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Guest KING OF HELL
Originally posted by Sonik3000

See, if the Buddha was around today and found christmas lights in his image, he'd shell out and buy them to show his buddies. Buddha had a sense of humor, and so should you. There's nothing wrong with trying something on for size in your book or asking some friends what they think. Try a piece that looks like Cyrillic, Japanese, whatever. It's not super different than throwing some Cholo, NoNeg, or Wicket into your mix. Chances are against your doing anything that looks fly, ever, so why hold yourself back?

 

Another thing: What the fuck is the deal with people getting things tattooed on them in languages they can't read? I find that extremely suspect. I mean, if you're comfortable with the word for "power" or whatever in Chinese on your arm, why aren't you comfortable with the English word? Or are you too ashamed to have people around your way be able to read it?

 

Sonik3000

My back says

 

"THE PURPOSE OF LIFE IS TO BE HAPPY"

 

IN ENGLISH.

 

 

actually, i got japanese kanji tattooed on me. its not just the word. i think we all know how fresh hand drawn kanji looks. where as if i had just gotten the words in plain english that whould be fine, but i do admire the art form of hand lettering. not that there arent a zillion fonts in english that i could have used, but in essence i just really love the way the damn things are drawn. im not ashamed to have people know what it is, because as anyone with a tattoo that saya something in another language knows, you are always answering the same question to everyone. "hey, whats that mean?" so your going tohave to tell people either way. if anything its more of a headache because of the constant questions, but i felt it was worth it. its more thna just the woord to me. its a symbol. like a charm.

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sonik seeing as you are leaving soon i dont know if you will read this but having numerous words in foriegn languages that you know about on my body lends me to believe that this question is directed at me... it isnt that i dont like english (*i do have english already) i most likely will have more english tattoos... the kanji on my leg had to do with a love of brushstroke, and then it ended up getting done in woodcut.

tho the latin is wrong behind my ears, i was thinking of just getting the english, yet something about listnening to too much death metal and having a slight sense of humor and hearing those words before i just thought it would be amusing to have latin around skulls... something about that works in my mind.

 

and sanskrit like arabic will always be in my mind not just script... it is art, which is where this whole post came from. i appreciate the other cultures lettering enough to get it tattooed as an artform... much like getting any symbol of another culture tattooed because of sheer appreciation of the cultures art, be it dia de los muerte skulls, lotus flowers, tibetan imagery etc etc.

 

thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Dick Gozinya

TOO BAD THESE FILTHY FUCKS DAMAGE THE IMAGE OF IT ALL WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS CONQUESTS.

 

who does? The Christian Crusader? The Islamic Zealot? The Televangelist Preachers?

 

It's a small world, and you're going to find out a lot more about intolerance.

 

 

About the tattoo thing...

The story goes...

This girl has a hebrew symbol for something tattoed under her pantyline.

Now this girl had to constantly explain to guys what it meant. Then she'd

have to deal with their inability to prounce 'lhai'. Then she met this guy

at college. The first time he saw the tat, he said "oh.. Lhai..that's nice!"

Next weekend it was off to meet her jewish mother.

I think the girl's engage to him already.

 

moral of the story?

Cultural tollerance will open you up to many more experiences.

(I dont see colours... I just see pink)

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Originally posted by somefagoo

 

hating on the rest of the world?!...now that's quite some beef ya got there fella..i bet your ignorance shows in your graff as well..

god bless the u.s. and fuck the rest...haha....

 

if you wanna insult my inteligence lets go.i'll do bang you the fuck out,round after round.

come test me jerkoff.i'll be right here.:cool: :lol:

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