earl broclo ESQ Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 found this on google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 this month's issue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad arrow Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I'm wondering where you all think these cats got their influence from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meet The Dealers Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 I'm wondering where you all think these cats got their influence from? Im not wondering, but would u like 2 explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livejig Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 New York son! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 this was on woostercollective. i don't have audio on the computer i'm at right now, but thought i'd post it in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad arrow Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Im not wondering, but would u like 2 explain? I'm interested in where people here think they got influenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'd say Espo was heavily influenced by the old Philly styles, and traditional sign painters. Twist is definitely Trixter influenced. Amaze has the Bay area funk, which is based in classic New York shit. Grey definitely influenced all of them. Where do you think they got their influences, Bad Arrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Ugly Radio Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Eek... One of the few times Harvey is way off... Except for Espo. Guess you had to be around it to know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired? Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired? Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedwacko! Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 bump twist,josh,espo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemdoe sc Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 twist influenced by trixter? uhh no way. espo is infuenced by overbrook wp twist is just a amazing artist grey is european in a americans clothes amaze is influenced by new york plain as day. but new york influenced them all. in philly we call fillins, blow ups and espo was doin em in the tunnels early.twist knew the inportance of a good hand from the getgo.grey is a solid writer man.you gotta give him that. amaze's block busters are legendary.biggest i've ever seen. legal or not.these guys legal work is pretty much just another way to get over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad arrow Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Id agree with most of these comments in general I just wondered what people on here thought. Twist's graffiti work, his silvers and tags look rooted in nyc subway 80s for the most part at least to me. Amaze started out with some really regional cali looking stuff and picked up on some NYC style as well. He's all ways consistently keeping it simple. so if his letter forms have gradually changed he's usually maintaining a cohesive look to his shit. Espo keeps it Philly with the sign painting influence as was mentioned. I think the thing that they all share is they often paint using two colors, one fill one outline. On occasion Espo or Amaze will use more colors. Grey Is dope as well with a little Ghost influence and Their boy Geso gets overlooked a bit but is fucking nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTIMXAW Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 twist influenced by trixter? uhh no way. My thoughts exactly. Way off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visiting Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 SOEL IBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C17H21NO4 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Those espo trucks are kinda gay and lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brown Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 hang yourself. shits classic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 i love how when someone tries to do something different from the norm, dudes instantly call it "gay" or "lame." but some fucking dude does a basic fill or outline and it's "pure fire." is it a generation gap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad arrow Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Some People like cookie cutter shit and get scared by something different. No one original or worth looking at let that stop them from pushing the ball down the court thank god. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brown Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 i love how when someone tries to do something different from the norm, dudes instantly call it "gay" or "lame." but some fucking dude does a basic fill or outline and it's "pure fire." is it a generation gap? its a everyday thing now on the ounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basN Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 twist has the sickest tags throws out! crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I've seen Twist cite Trixter as an influence, which I also thought sounded crazy. But then I started to see little things in pieces that made me realize what he was talking about. I'm not saying that Twist's graffiti looks like Trixter's graffiti, because style is obviously way more complicated than that. But if you look, you can see the little things. As for Grey, they were all well on their way to a distinctive style before they really started painting with him, but he definitely influenced them and vice versa. And there were NY roots to that style. Anyways, I'm offering my half- informed, half supposed thoughts on the subject because I think it's a more interesting use of this thread than simply rehashing the same flicks and comments about these guys. I'm interested to hear other people do the same, especially those who might know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Ugly Radio Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Amaze was never really down with the funk. You're thinking of dudes like TMF originally, or something like ICP now a days. I don't think anything about Twist is rooted in the NY subways, at all. And I don't think citing someone as an influence really means the graffiti is anything alike. Grey and Amaze influenced each other, I'll give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeah666 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlboro Man. Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The little light I can shed on the subject goes as follows. These Espo shots are taken from the Philadlephia subway, Probably (not sure what part of the tunnels, justa guess) from within the orange line tunnels which run north to south almost the length of broad street (aka 14th street). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky636 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky636 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I'll second that^^... Now that's some teamwork!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Frehley Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 SR.ONE taught twist how to tag.(pictured on the left) he was an old school boston writer out of cambridge ma who moved to sf in the 80s. the picture below is from 1986. this is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky636 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 that jawn isnt even a roller, he did it with a brush, a small brush at that Quoted post [/b] In the book "the art of getting over" espo tells a story of how a cop came up to him when he was painting this and asked him how much he got payed and he said 7.50 an hour plus overtime and the cop just carried on walking. that's from memory so don't quote me. That was burned in my memory the first time i read it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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