heavyLox Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 its the german bishop Ratsiger ( i dont know the spelling sorry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyLox Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 cardinal Joseph ratzinger Joseph Ratzinger of Germany, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 joseph ratzinger of germany - pope benedict XVI put ABC on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 oh well.... I was rooting for the African. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Is this the one that's in his 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarzAbove Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 A Pope is a Pope no matter what nationality or color! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I was worried cause this new popes track record is even more conservative than John Paul and I thought Oh great we are going to be even more divided... but I guess the name chosen for him, Benedict is supposed to be for uniters... So lets hope there's some uniting going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 the third world deserved their pope, seeing as how they are the ones signing up all the new catholics for membership. but the white man just won't let go. haha.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyLox Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by <KEY3>+Apr 19 2005, 11:49 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (<KEY3> - Apr 19 2005, 11:49 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>oh well.... I was rooting for the African. Quoted post [/b] as was I. <!--QuoteBegin-StarzAbove@Apr 19 2005, 12:06 PM A Pope is a Pope no matter what nationality or color! Quoted post Popes are people and bring there onw experience and concerens to the job. An african pope could have done quite a bit to bring Africa to the attention of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The prophecy of St. Malachy whoa... the prophecy says this about the new pope: Gloria olivæ The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order. and what's his new pope name? oh really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by heavyLox@Apr 19 2005, 09:24 AM Popes are people and bring there onw experience and concerens to the job. An african pope could have done quite a bit to bring Africa to the attention of the world. Quoted post he also could of brought a lot of ignorance and hatred to africa and other places. wasn't he one of the more conservative and outspoken cardinals? why would you want that..because he's black? a black man will never be president and never be pope. a black man won't be given the chance to rule in a rich whites mans world or church. (well not in our lifetime) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Text of the speech delivered by Joseph Ratzinger, elected pope Tuesday, from the balcony of St. Peter‘s Basilica. He chose the name of Benedict XVI. ___ "Dear brothers and sisters, after the great Pope John Paul II, the cardinals have elected me — a simple, humble worker in the vineyard of the Lord. "The fact that the Lord can work and act even with insufficient means consoles me, and above all I entrust myself to your prayers. "In the joy of the risen Lord, trusting in his permanent help, we go forward. The Lord will help us and Mary his very holy mother stands by us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deterrent Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany, the church's leading hard-liner, was elected the new pope Tuesday evening in the first conclave of the new millennium. He chose the name Pope Benedict XVI and called himself "a simple, humble worker." Ratzinger, the first German pope in centuries, emerged onto the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica, where he waved to a wildly cheering crowd of tens of thousands and gave his first blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 i dunno, whats even more scary than the dudes face is his hands....thats some serious nosferatu shit. On the bright side, he looks halfdead already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deterrent Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 They're most likely pink from the child free-for-all in the conclave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokejuda Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by Tesseract@Apr 19 2005, 01:46 PM On the bright side, he looks halfdead already Quoted post oh man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 HEY..... could a crossfire mod merge this with the ongoing papal thread? thanks, I moved it in here but forgot about the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelkaemoney Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 plain and simple... had they elected a black pope we would be running for fallout shelters cause that certainly would have been it..people were sittin in control rooms around the planet waiting.and had he not been caucasian alot of buttons would have been pushed simultaneously...KABOOM KABOOM..just like in thecase of the US Presidency..let Colin Powell run and win shhhhit!! are you crazy.. guranteed he gets picked off at his acceptance speech..grassy knoll II ;) this is the way of the world caucasian men will run shit..us black folks are just here for the ride..nah i aint on no self pity shit either...thats just the way it is end of story... peace peace!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 the german woman at my job knows.. this guy is ultra conservative. no women in the clergy no ok on birth control abortion is still murder fuck the third world same as it ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 there's only one pope left after this guy. I'm glad they didn't elect a real young guy because then they Papal institution might outlive me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by <KEY3>@Apr 19 2005, 12:41 PM The prophecy of St. Malachy whoa... the prophecy says this about the new pope: Gloria olivæ The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order. and what's his new pope name? oh really? Quoted post Yo that's a trip man... Religion really gets weird when you dig into all the esoterica. Well actually it makes more sense. Doesn't say much about this pope. What on earth could "Gloria olivæ" mean? He's German. Hmmm... Well the olive branch is a symbol of peace. wtf? i found this interesting bit whilst searching for the meaning of olives: "Origin: The olive is native to the Mediterranean region, tropical and central Asia and various parts of Africa. The olive has a history almost as long as that of Western civilization, its development being one of civilized man's first accomplishments. At a site in Spain, carbon-dating has shown olive seed found there to be eight thousand years old. O. europaea may have been cultivated independently in two places, Crete and Syria. Archeological evidence suggest that olives were being grown in Crete as long ago as 2,500 B.C. From Crete and Syria olives spread to Greece, Rome and other parts of the Mediterranean area. Posted by: M. on April 5, 2005 05:48 AM Although the Benedictines said the next Pope is going to be of their order, the last Benedictine Cardinal died in 1995. It could be the French Jewish Cardinal if the olive represents that, but he's ot of the Benedictine order. Then there is the fact that in the last few months, as a matter of fact in the last week, more than 50 new posts/Cardinals have been named, so there could be a Benedictine among them...and then there are two secret Cardinals. (How did Pope John Paul ll do that on his death bed??) Posted by: Pallas18 on April 5, 2005 05:49 AM Well something is going on. The eclipse of April 8 at 19 Aries on the USA chart We have Uranus square Uranus in the Gemini rising USA chart. It has the Part of Fatality at 9 Virgo opp Uranus (making a T Square to the MC and Asc. The Part of treachery at 16 Leo is opp Neptune the Part of Life at 24 Gemini is opp PLUTO The Part of Death at 19 Aries (dimbot's MC) in the USA chart is conjunct the Moon. *** Wait, it gets better or worse, depending on your viewpoint. Dimbot's chart has Part of Life at 14 Leo opp Mars conj Vertex Part of the Father conjunct Saturn Part of Death opp the MC Part of Danger opp Pluto Part of Water Journeys (over water) conj Saturn Posted by: Pallas18 on April 5, 2005 05:58 AM ---------------------------------edit------------------------------------------ Pat QOP Having read your linked article to the funny stuff in the Vatican bank - it begins to make sense. And why Pope JP 2 would allow the crooked banker to stay until 1989. When JP came in, Reagan came in, and who came in with Reagan? Pappy. And Pappy with the White Roses and the recently discredited intel organization . The Pope is credited with bringing freedom to Poland and the cause of the Iron Curtain coming down.. Not quite as simple that he helped Lech Waleska by advising him. Through the CIA he also shipped arms and money to Poland. A little thing that slipped out through tv stories today. Now if you were using the Vatican Bank and banker to help free your native country with the help of the CIA - that certainly is a blackmailable offense for a clergyman of the highest station to be involved in. And a good reason not to defrock the Vatican banker who helped you do it - as a matter of fact you'd have to protect him. "a brief history of the Sandanistas is in order. From the late 1970's to 1990, a revolutionary armed political group ran Nicaragua called the FSLN, or the Sandanistas. President Reagan (and Pappy ) decided that a revolutionary government making many advances for the good of the impoverished common people was a bad example for Latin America. So, a counter military group was organized by the United States to challenge the regime, this group was called the contras, "contra" being the Spanish word for "against." You remember Nicaragua, where Negroponte was the Ambassador who never saw a deathsquad? Now if you owed Pappy, Reagan and the CIA for helping to free your beloved Poland - you now understand why Pope would forbid his priests to be involved in leftist politics , revolutions of the poor and their attempted overthrows of Latin American countries...cause you'd be going against the people you owed. But of course, the Papacy has always been involved in secrets and "dealings. Borgia anyone? (It's too bad-nothing is pure) Posted by: Pallas18 on April 5, 2005 06:33 AM CC no I haven't done a chart for Yellowstone. You give me or any of us the birthdate the geyser was born and we can do a chart. :) Posted by: Pallas18 on April 5, 2005 06:38 AM Astrologers, any thoughts on Gore's newly announced TV venture set to kick off August 1st? Posted by: Jeanie on April 5, 2005 06:43 AM Google is a wonderful thing. With a little help from a friend and google there were several Pope Benedicts - they were all Italian. It's some Italian from an olive tree farm..or who has an olive tree on his coat of arms. If it;s that Soldano or one who is involved in Opus Dei, it'll probably hurry the downfall of the Church... I think they've been maneuvering to get their people in power as the Pope was failing. This should be interesting Bet. Posted by: Pallas18 on April 5, 2005 06:49 AM Yes, it's true that Po" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthebuilder Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Thats bullshit, the church is racist... there will never be a black pope, the majority of those idiots think Jesus was white... hey dumbass, go to Jerusalem and tell me how many white people you see, not to mention that Jerusalem before was not even close to what it is today... white Europeans didnt start coming there till there was shit to* steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 ^ yes most of the christians seem to think jesus was white, they're also convinced that Adam and Even were white, Noah and Moses were white etc etc etc.... However the Hebrew Ethnicity does technically fall into the Caucasion category, but yeah.... in Isreal you wont find any pasty white people except the tourists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo knife Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I heard this guy was known around the vatican as "Joe Ratfinger" ....now we will obviously refer to him as pope "bent-dick" 16th... ratzinger? come on...how are you gonna elect a rat-zinger bentdick...jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 pissing on the pope's popsicle ROME _ If things had gone differently, one of the 115 men sequestered within Vatican walls this week to select the next pope might well have been somewhere equally confining but far less appealing: prison. Cardinal Michele Giordano, archbishop of Naples, was charged in 1999 with allegedly funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars in church funds to his brother in what authorities said was a massive loan-sharking ring. The charges followed a two-year investigation in which prosecutors tapped the prelate's telephone and raided his offices. A judge found him not guilty in December 2000. But the cardinal's legal troubles aren't over. In 2002, Giordano was convicted and sentenced to four and a half months' confinement for illegally subdividing a historic palace. The wealthy heiress who bequeathed the property is also suing the cardinal because he sought to convert the palace into apartments instead of a home for poor retired priests as she'd wished, according to Italian news reports. Giordano's lawyer, Enrico Tuccillo, on Monday characterized the matter as a technical legal dispute. "One of the things that went against the clergy is that, by coincidence, one of the architects was a relative of the cardinal's," he said. "That brought a bad odor." The 2002 conviction was upheld on appeal and is now before Italy's highest criminal court. It's often difficult even for Italians to understand Italy's convoluted, delay-prone justice system, but legal experts say that a person with no prior criminal history wouldn't be required to serve jail time in such a case. The loan-sharking charges could have landed the cardinal in prison. The judge's verdict after a short non-jury trial shocked some independent observers, who'd concluded that the evidence against the cardinal appeared solid. "We were scandalized," said Pantaleone Sergi, who covered the affair for the national daily newspaper La Repubblica and other publications. "It was all documented _ the numbers can't lie." Tuccillo disputed that on Monday. "The judge looked at the evidence and excluded usury," he said, noting that the verdict was upheld on appeal. As the case drew international media attention in the late 1990s, the cardinal didn't deny that he'd transferred hundreds of thousands of dollars in church money to his relatives, according to news accounts. But he said he didn't know that the money was allegedly being lent out at up to 300 percent interest, even as he was preaching against usury. "I am clean inside, and someone up there knows it," said Giordano, a colorful figure who once preached a homily in Naples' cathedral in memory of a deceased Italian porn star. Newspapers here said the cardinal was the highest-ranking Roman Catholic Church official to face criminal charges in Italy. He exercised his right to be tried by a judge behind closed doors. How the Vatican handled Giordano contrasts with how it dealt with the scandal that enveloped Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston, who resigned as archbishop under pressure despite never having been charged criminally. Through his troubles, Giordano has remained in full control of Italy's third-largest archdiocese. Six months before the verdict in the loan-sharking case, Pope John Paul II issued a special written blessing to the cardinal, saying the faithful "have no reason to tremble in the face of difficulties." National Catholic Reporter columnist John L. Allen Jr., who speaks regularly with senior Vatican officials, wrote after the verdict that Giordano's woes were "a running embarrassment for the Vatican, given that John Paul II has so often preached against usury, and given that Giordano was allegedly stealing money from some of the poorest and most desperate people in Europe." Allen added that "most people were convinced that no matter what happened ... Giordano would never see the inside of a jail cell, for the simple fact that he is a cardinal and this is Italy." He lamented "the clear perception the Catholic hierarchy has created, wittingly or not, that `taking care of its own' is its highest value." The lead prosecutor in the case, Michelangelo Russo, declined to comment on the matter Monday, saying, "I stand on what was presented in court." The charging document accused the cardinal and other defendants of singling out clients in financial trouble who had accounts at a bank branch office headed by Giordano's nephew. They allegedly were lent money at illegally high rates of interest. Evidence in the case showed that $453,000 in lira had flowed from Giordano's accounts to his brother and $235,000 had flowed back, and prosecutors said that showed the cardinal was profiting from the loans. "If I knew that my help ... was being used for illegal purposes, I wouldn't have given it to him," the cardinal said in 1998. "I would have hit him on the head." On Monday, Giordano took his place in the Sistine Chapel, preparing to help select the next pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest imported_Tesseract Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Originally posted by <KEY3>@Apr 19 2005, 03:00 PM However the Hebrew Ethnicity does technically fall into the Caucasion category, but yeah.... in Isreal you wont find any pasty white people except the tourists. Quoted post Not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 A German pope? Ooooooh that's rough...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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why write? Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 ^ hAHAHAHAH now that is comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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