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On 1/6/2023 at 2:29 PM, Aristo said:

I’m trying to work into using more serifs and extensions but I feel a little lost going into it. 

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I feel like you have missed opportunities for some connections of your letters instead of the overlaps. Your E can use some space from your M. The last bar of your N could use some bend that reflects the shape of the A, M and E.

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@Aristo- The first thing that jumps out at me is there are some connections to be made to clean up the overall configuration. For example, the right leg of your M is almost the exact same curve and shape as the back bar to your E, so I would merge the two together to clean up that connection. Same with the end of your E... you could connect that directly to the left bar of your N to clean that connection up as well. 

 

As for adding serifs... to help with this exercise I chose a slab serif font as my example to work from. Basically I got the letters where I wanted them and then went back and added the serifs. Doing this helped me connect my letters even more creating a nice, fluid form to the word. I tried my best to keep your letters so it feels familiar but let me know if this is hitting the mark on what you're trying to achieve. 

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13 hours ago, Schnitzel said:

@Joker

not sure what other threads you frequent but I thought you might get a kick out of this. 

The hype Vault mag from about 10 years back had  a double page spread that might be yours.

 

Yep, those are two pages from one of my blackbooks, early 90s. That letter "I" study in the upper left was obviously very much inspired by HR Giger, whom I was a big fan of at the time (still enjoy his work but in the late 80s early 90s I was a bit obsessed). The "Cohc" piece was painted at the Franklin Wall in San Francisco. I think it ended up in IGHT as I was sending Phase2 a lot of photos during those years. While the headline notes my "...stylish characters" - they have always been inspired by my mentor ETCH, from Washington DC. That guy single-handedly inspired an entire city with his characters and letters. 

 

Thanks for sharing!!

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On 1/10/2023 at 9:14 AM, Joker said:

@Aristo- The first thing that jumps out at me is there are some connections to be made to clean up the overall configuration. For example, the right leg of your M is almost the exact same curve and shape as the back bar to your E, so I would merge the two together to clean up that connection. Same with the end of your E... you could connect that directly to the left bar of your N to clean that connection up as well. 

 

As for adding serifs... to help with this exercise I chose a slab serif font as my example to work from. Basically I got the letters where I wanted them and then went back and added the serifs. Doing this helped me connect my letters even more creating a nice, fluid form to the word. I tried my best to keep your letters so it feels familiar but let me know if this is hitting the mark on what you're trying to achieve. 

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Sorry it's been awhile. But I saw this and yes I think it's helped me out. I'll have to spend some time experimenting with serifs some more. I've been working on merging my letters and making smoother connections. 

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@Aristo- Looking at your sketches, and reading that you're working on making smoother connections between letters, I decided to play around with the E to N connection on one of your sketches. One thing I noticed is that, at least in your Amen sketches, the end of the E curls down and the end of your N curls up, which lead me to think you could connect them at those curling points. I also gave slightly more definition to the E inside the right bar of the M - one of those classic Graffiti notches.

 

For your consideration:

 

 

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Hey guys!

 

How good/bad are these? I thought i got the basics figured out but i cant seem to get over the kinda straight letter pieces, to a point where i sometimes get frustrated and think i just lack creativity.

 

Thanks for any responses, have a good day.

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3 hours ago, billoboy2020 said:

Hey guys!

 

How good/bad are these? I thought i got the basics figured out but i cant seem to get over the kinda straight letter pieces, to a point where i sometimes get frustrated and think i just lack creativity.

 

Thanks for any responses, have a good day.

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Definitely heading in the right direction on some of these. Some of the letters are looking blobbed out and the bars could be cleaned up and defined better. I think your last pencil sketch is your strongest (minus the wonky legs of the A and matching parts of the N). Try to refine that sketch in a couple of new versions and repost them. See if you unlock anything.

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6 hours ago, LUGR said:


Definitely heading in the right direction on some of these. Some of the letters are looking blobbed out and the bars could be cleaned up and defined better. I think your last pencil sketch is your strongest (minus the wonky legs of the A and matching parts of the N). Try to refine that sketch in a couple of new versions and repost them. See if you unlock anything.

 

thanks for the fast feedback LUGR (and thanks for the others like joker or mr. yuck for taking this time and giving so constructive and high quality critique btw)

 

I think i know what you mean by blobbed-out letters. Probably the A,T,N on the blue/pink piece or the A and N on the piece below that. Ive tried to bring some variety into it by not always cutting the bar with a straight line but I can see how it looks kinda weird now so thanks for that.

 

I did a quick redo of my pen sketch, without the wonky legs. Ive tried to refine it as well and did a second sketch, tho i had trouble  adding stuff/making new versions without changing up the original sketch too much.

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4 hours ago, billoboy2020 said:

 

thanks for the fast feedback LUGR (and thanks for the others like joker or mr. yuck for taking this time and giving so constructive and high quality critique btw)

 

I think i know what you mean by blobbed-out letters. Probably the A,T,N on the blue/pink piece or the A and N on the piece below that. Ive tried to bring some variety into it by not always cutting the bar with a straight line but I can see how it looks kinda weird now so thanks for that.

 

I did a quick redo of my pen sketch, without the wonky legs. Ive tried to refine it as well and did a second sketch, tho i had trouble  adding stuff/making new versions without changing up the original sketch too much.

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Looking better. Keep sketching and reworking them. These letters have some pretty cool flow and options for connections.

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