Toys post here...

[Joker]

@Ray40

 

 

[Fist 666]

@Ray40I can't tell if you're a troll or if you're 12 years old. If you're 12, cool, party hard and take the advice in this thread.

 

You are drawing the exact same letters over and over, and then asking if you're making progress. Stop all of what you are doing and draw the letters as they are shaped on your keyboard, spaced apart, not overlapping. Nothing extra, just each  R A Y . no lean, no 3d, no shadow, no fill. Just each letter in its simplest form. 

 

[Ray40]

I am 13

[Ray40]

Thanks joker, fist, and kults 

[Ray40]

And I thought I was making progress, should I really go all the way back to keyboard, I understand that letters need the sane height, bar width, and style to be clean so I think I will keep following jokers outline and the alphabets I have learned that are stored in my head

[Fist 666]

You saying you understand bars and showing you understand bars are two very different things. I'm convinced you don't. If you did the "hole" in your R s wouldn't look anything like it does.

[Ray40]

You are right, I tried to do a proper sketch so just tell me if this looks better(sorry, just had to add drop shadow) if this is truly horrible I will go back to keyboard letters, I promise

Edited October 20, 2019 by Ray40

[Ray40]

I know the y looks goofy, sorry

[Ray40]

I did another and I think it looks better I swear

[Joker]

@Ray40– draw these letters as I’ve drawn them, outline them in black, that’s it. Do it four or five times on one sheet. No fill in, no stars, no nothing... just black outline. 
 

 

[LUGR]

Don’t get too frustrated @Ray40, he didn’t say anything about no stingrays.

[Ray40]

Thanks @LUGRbefore you did that I was having a horrible morning and that was the first thing that made me smile

[Kults]

15 hours ago, Ray40 said:

I did another and I think it looks better I swear

First was better. Keep doing it over n over n over again. STAHP with the doodads, I know youre itching to show off some personal flair but just dont. Once the outline is done toss it and do it again, when you feel your hand starting to draw a star chuck your pen across the room.

[Joker]

@Ray40- Like I mentioned to Lime, Graffiti is frustrating. Every writer goes through this period. For some it takes years and for some it just clicks. Honestly, the only thing that will help you get better is practice. Lots of practice. Like, lots of practice. You're young so you've got plenty of time to get all this under control and start progressing. 

 

You know, @Limeliciouzhad an interesting perspective about using some of these alphabet prints that writers have been doing lately as inspiration for letters. Click that link and a style in there you really like, something simple, and copy it. Line for line, just copy it. I mean... when you look at the letter you drew and the letter you're copying - they should look the same. 

 

Or you can just fill your sketchbook with pages and pages of one letter sketches. Just draw the letter R I gave you over and over and over. Focus on keeping your bars the same weight, don't worry about fill-ins, stars, any of that shit. 

 

Just practice. I've been doing Graffiti since 1985 and I still practice... 

 

 

[Joker]

Downtime while Vray renders...

 

 

[misteraven]

^ so freakin good....

[Ray40]

Thanks so much joker, that was inspiring, question:you said to practice my R especially, does this mean my other letters are more on point and I need to fix my Rs? Thanks again for the help

[misteraven]

4 minutes ago, Ray40 said:

Thanks so much joker, that was inspiring, question:you said to practice my R especially, does this mean my other letters are more on point and I need to fix my Rs? Thanks again for the help

Just a tip that if you type the '@' symbol followed by the first few letter of a person's name, a pop up appears where you can select them. This will send a notification to that person same way it does on other social platforms. Example... @Ray40

[Ray40]

Thanks @misteraven

[Joker]

@Ray40- What I meant was to practice single letters. I was just saying R as an example. You should practice all three of your letters over and over. Just draw that letter R I gave you over and over. Not how you interpret it, but how I drew it for you. Same with the A and Y. Once you get them  down so it's almost exactly the same as my drawing - then we can start playing off that and adding your own style to it. Make sense? Once we get each letter looking the same as what I've given you then we'll put them altogether as a piece. 

 

And take your time... this isn't a race. 

 

For reference - I still do this allllllll the time. I call them "Letter Studies". I'll draw a K and get it really dialed in. Sometimes it's something I'll later incorporate into a full piece but most of the time I just do letter studies just to sharpen my skills with that letter or explore different ideas. 

 

[Ray40]

Thanks again @Joker,I did what you said with each letter on the page, I did drop shadow cause I was trying to learn that skill please give me your opinion or anymore advice

 

[Kults]

Yesss now youre getting it. More of that

[Ray40]

thanks 

[Joker]

Nice one, @Ray40- definitely keep going. I like the outlined ones the most. As for the Y, try a leg like the one I drew at the bottom of the page. Don't curl up that descender... 

 

[Ray40]

Thanks so much