imah8r Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 that first true looks solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
515ZomB Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You do realise your s and b look like cartoon poo? But ugh if thats what you were going for. then who am i to judge. Not feeling the S or B tho anyway. I like the O and m though. Lol well I appreciate the honestly. I've been experimenting with a whole lot of different styles lately, I've filled up almost 2 books since January. Just trying out different things and playing trial and error. Forgot to post this one, done yesterday. Same Z and B as the one before, different O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imah8r Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 not really feeling that one zomb. more bars. that z though ... kinda looks like a pile of poop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finEyoungCamel!!! Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Like I said before your stuff is pretty good especially when compared to when you first got here. The only one piece of advice I can give you (not a critique) is to make it so that you can see the drop shadow thru the Z like the other letters. Would look a lot better and more balanced. juniors pretty tight. He died. RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makineasykills Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lol well I appreciate the honestly. I've been experimenting with a whole lot of different styles lately, I've filled up almost 2 books since January. Just trying out different things and playing trial and error. Forgot to post this one, done yesterday. Same Z and B as the one before, different O. I just looked through the last few pages and I think you should change that Z man. Not a good look, everything else can be tweeked to make it better but that Z is dead in the water. Try to create a new Z by flipping your B around and using the natural bend of the letter to give it some funk. Just my two cents. Maybe try something like this.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inappropriate_Responder Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 mek dropping science. somebody prop him for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
515ZomB Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Wow!! I guess seeing is believing. The flow with that Z is incredible. I'll try something based on that idea and post it up when it's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hua Guofang Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 also note how the vertical bar of MEK's B was more similar in width to the rest of the B, the M and so on. That's what I was saying a few posts back, you need to get your letters complete before you get in to bells and whistles as you have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Teetas Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 ^word. i think you (zomb) should refrain from the stylish doodads n focus on the letters more. Your effects look fine, but dont make the letters any better. Thats much better zomb. MEKs got that on point tips. You should keep drawing that style. I can see it being dope. and nice. Fill them books up, put in work. Its a lot more than i can say for myself recently. I remember you posting around the last time i was on like 2 years ago. But i aint done too much since then. keep it up mang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makineasykills Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Truth is its a rookie mistake to run before you can walk. When i started in the 90's i wanted to do what I saw in the Bronx and in magazines/books etc but that was done by the masters and I could barely catch a tag. Effects are cool but if all you're doing is dressing up a piece a shit at the end end of the day its still a piece of shit. Letters, letters, letters then when you think you can't take it anymore DO MORE LETTERS! Put the tricks aside and focus on honing the letter science of graffiti from balancing letter bars to figuring out every possible flow and connection for your name. Every letter should look like it belongs with the others not just a bunch of letters thrown together to say a name. Its about finding style through balance and flow. Thats the best advice I can give anyone starting out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnjhockett Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Toys have really gotten good over time. This used to be stick figures and crayons. This is all impressive! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imah8r Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Truth is its a rookie mistake to run before you can walk. When i started in the 90's i wanted to do what I saw in the Bronx and in magazines/books etc but that was done by the masters and I could barely catch a tag. Effects are cool but if all you're doing is dressing up a piece a shit at the end end of the day its still a piece of shit. Letters, letters, letters then when you think you can't take it anymore DO MORE LETTERS! Put the tricks aside and focus on honing the letter science of graffiti from balancing letter bars to figuring out every possible flow and connection for your name. Every letter should look like it belongs with the others not just a bunch of letters thrown together to say a name. Its about finding style through balance and flow. Thats the best advice I can give anyone starting out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
515ZomB Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Not feeling the bottom curve bar on the B with this one, not to mention the verticle bar looked way fatter after I inked it. Did the M differently this time though to try to get it going with the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yeah, your O & M has a swing on it but the B is rigid, screws with your flow. But it's moving in the right direction so just start pumping out the letters. Don't only stick to those ones either, play around with other odd words. And pay attention to what MEK said in trying every different lean, swing, balance, etc. of the letter. Extend this bit, drop that part a little, bend that one, etc. Most of it will look silly but you have to rule out the mistakes to help you identify the good shit. Sometimes when you're mindlessly doodling you stumble on designs that you couldn't have managed when you're trying hard. Use your left hand, cover one eye, only look at the page after you've drawn each stroke, etc. Sometimes letting go of control like this can help you break out of mindsets that constrain you (like the mindset you had about Z's recently). I see you just writing the same letters over and over again, completely change what you're doing in terms of shape and flow every week to force yourself to practice and stay out of ruts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Teetas Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 ^ very good advice. If i reply with crits i would just be parroring that. But probably in less detail. so ima just say. Props for putting in work and accepting critisism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRESTORM Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 not much time for practising because of university but i try to take as much time as i can into practise so please a few crits on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Teetas Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I love kittys. Chars kind of cheshire catish. Alice in wonderland. But your letters are kind of bad. Youre some what using consistant bars, so thats a positive i can find. Now for the bad stuff i see. You tried to draw serefs but they just look like bad extensions. You must Crawl before you walk and walk before you run. KEYBOARD SIMPLES look at the letters on your keyboard and draw those. CAT KING Just like that. a Sans serif font. Just keep drawing keyboard simples and once you got those down pat. you'll be able to then start experimenting with extensions to fiull in the negitive space that certain letters create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRESTORM Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 thanks big teetas start drawing keyboard over and over now, i will post it if i can do it well, then i am ready for the next advice :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
515ZomB Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yeah, your O & M has a swing on it but the B is rigid, screws with your flow. But it's moving in the right direction so just start pumping out the letters. Don't only stick to those ones either, play around with other odd words. And pay attention to what MEK said in trying every different lean, swing, balance, etc. of the letter. Extend this bit, drop that part a little, bend that one, etc. Most of it will look silly but you have to rule out the mistakes to help you identify the good shit. Sometimes when you're mindlessly doodling you stumble on designs that you couldn't have managed when you're trying hard. Use your left hand, cover one eye, only look at the page after you've drawn each stroke, etc. Sometimes letting go of control like this can help you break out of mindsets that constrain you (like the mindset you had about Z's recently). I see you just writing the same letters over and over again, completely change what you're doing in terms of shape and flow every week to force yourself to practice and stay out of ruts. That is the plan. Thanks everyone, good shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodah Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Everyone's doing really well in here. Props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Teetas Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Im a digital artist now more than a pen and paper guy. But i still rock that paper before i take it to the digi art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRESTORM Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 hello again, after many alphabets this one is the best so far i did but i think i make a few more, sometimes the half-circle-lines make trouble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Get on to that R and S. Then start putting a shadow on them and some 3d. But that's the way to do it ^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The R would look better if the down line came from the "half circle" instead of off of the primary bar. The S would simply if you made the top "half circle" a bit smaller than the bottom half. But that is exactly where to start. Learn how to balance those, don't do any fancy doo-dad shit that you're not ready for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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