Joker Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 @Giant- yeah, I totally understand, it can be really frustrating at times. Even those of us who have been doing this for 30+ years go through frustrating processes.And it's a process, it takes patience, but you're getting there so at least know that. Bottom Sketch: Look closely - your PN feels like a different style from your DO. I honestly like the feel of the DO, and dig the bar at the bottom of the O. I think if you made the bottom of the D, that bar that extends downward, if you made that a little thicker so it feels more in line with the weight of the bar at the bottom of the O, those letters are would be done. Personally I wouldn't even extend the vertical bar past the top of the D but that's me, I'm kinda weird that way. I don't mind that the P has the same feel as the . To be honest... you could put a bar at the bottom of it like you did the O and round the hard edges and it could be good to go. It might also be a nice way to connect the first vertical bar of the N to the P. As for the N, looks good to me, maybe just round the edges like you did with the D and O and it will be fine. Does that help? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Yes that’s great thank you 🙏 yer my N more often than not comes out square edged think it’s habbit. I will have a play around and get back at ya. Here’s what’s iv been doing while waiting for my dinner lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Yep, those are great exercises to play around with. Keep at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 For me, the discussion about knowing your history has missed an important point. Yes, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat the failures of the past and we should respect the pioneers. But I think the key to starting out is understanding the history of the letter. Graffiti is all about tweaking to make a fresh idea that accentuates and recreates. But if you don’t start with a foundation then you have nothing to tweak. If you start with graffiti that’s come before you, you’re biting. Understand the fundamental structure of the letter, practice it and appreciate the beauty it already is. If you don’t start here you’ll never go anywhere. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 So here’s my adjustments made the P and N connect with the bar on the bottom. Curved the N off a little fattened up the bottom sweeper bar on the D. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElbowMack187 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Same peace but with some tweaks and a but more funk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 @ElbowMack187- I found this in the New Sketch thread... this is good!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Bigger sketch. Will fill this one over the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElbowMack187 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Joker said: @ElbowMack187- I found this in the New Sketch thread... this is good!! Thanks mang I'll mess around with that flow some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I don't think you need to mess around with it at all. If anything, build off of it. The style is good, letters legible and flow pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElbowMack187 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I went to paint it today but didn't we the homie was as close so I had to drop the w . And I tryd to flow with the other side . Get better pics in the morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeliciouz Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) i dunno if anyone remembers me i dont have much to put up done more outlines for throwies more then anything else so nothing too exiting but i got arrested can someone make me feel better about that pls 🙈🙈 Edited September 17, 2019 by Limeliciouz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Playing with my throwie letters even tried an upside down one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Hi guys I am back after a while, I took a break from graffiti cause my parents found out but now I am back into it, here are my newest sketches trying to keep it basic, but I kinda went crazy cause I was excited about my new sketch book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) My newest one, pretty proud of how clean it is, feel free to give advice, please don’t burst my bubble though Edited September 22, 2019 by Ray40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 @Ray40why do you refuse to listen to anybody? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 11:22 AM, Joker said: @ray40 - Draw this for me... just as it is. Don't trace it, just draw it. Stick to this one until you can do it in your sleep Ray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Did letters, don’t judge the piece above it’s old Edited September 24, 2019 by Ray40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Ok for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I will stick to that piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Thanks for refreshing it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LUGR Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @Ray40that is a step in the right direction. Get rid of the fill and the background, don’t waste your time. Don’t post again in this thread until you have outlined that a few hundred to one thousand times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimer Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @ray40 Definitely on the right track, but still go back and simplify. Draw simple letters out of bars, all even proportioned, all even sizes and heights. Not sure if this picture will make much sense but I've highlighted the bars that are working in blue and the bars that don't make sense in red when I was starting I liked to draw two parallel lines top and bottom to keep my heights even and occasionally used boxes around my letters to make sure they were in proportion to each other Look closely at the outline Joker drew to see how he's done this its definitely getting there but the only way to move forward is to go waaaay back an perfect the basics first 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @Ray40- Honestly, if you have access to tracing paper I would just trace that outline I gave you over and over again until you get a feel for the letters, their shape, the flow. Just keep copying it until you know, you just know, you could draw it exactly the same without looking at it. To quote Dez in Style Wars talking about mentoring Trap - "I can't let him go for at least five minute or he'll destroy the piece, you know? I'll turn around 'Trap! What are you doing?' I wanna do my own piece! I said, 'Yeah, you know, but follow the outline". So... you know... follow the outline. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeliciouz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 So iv been doing alotta work since I last posted pics n I took the advise and went back to basics....wud love some feedback/guidance (also I just made that girl charachter third to last pic waddya guys think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Joker said: @Ray40- Honestly, if you have access to tracing paper I would just trace that outline I gave you over and over again until you get a feel for the letters, their shape, the flow. Just keep copying it until you know, you just know, you could draw it exactly the same without looking at it. To quote Dez in Style Wars talking about mentoring Trap - "I can't let him go for at least five minute or he'll destroy the piece, you know? I'll turn around 'Trap! What are you doing?' I wanna do my own piece! I said, 'Yeah, you know, but follow the outline". So... you know... follow the outline. Thank you so much I will try to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Do you guys mind trying to do a couple more outlines for me to try different types of basic letters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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