eviltrailer77 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So that new montana hardcore2 is trash, its actually a step down from the old stuff. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 wow I found it the opposite. what was so bad? you were using the V touch cans? did it have the ***** rating on the can? Thecolours I've used were sweet except the blacks with a new yorker sprayed a hollow circle rather than a dot. and the yellow is fucking horrid used verde cologno good Rojo Madrid - good negro - good except the issue above violeta -great amarillo claro - fucking rubbish the thing that was a bit crap was that marker tags showed through on the yellow and the red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltrailer77 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I picked up some Erica, magenta, poison green and Arctic blue for forcefields. I will say the shit covers, but there is absolutely no fine control with that valve, even after letting pressure out of the can. Plus it's dusty, no matter what cap I used it gave me fuzzy lines. You said you where using a NY, was that a fat? Because it doesn't take NY thins, one of the only reasons I even used the old hardcore. Even for hands I doesn't flare it just kinda blows out, shits a disaster for what I wanted it for. Maybe I will paint a dresser or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 yes NY fat was what I was using on the first piece. I hear you on the dustiness- that is definitely an issue using cyan for outlines was not good - the red is 94 that I used to try and hide how messy it ended up with. I was going to give up but at 7 a can it would be a waste to walk away. Just realised how bad my fades are :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Walid you're the expert on the export /repco paint side of things have you come across any that is really high pressure? I got a bunch of those ultrawide nozzles but they just make a mess using exports.. need to find higher pressure so more paint escapes the nozzle Nah, the most pressure I've ever found was in a can of aeroskills, which is out of production these days. I can't say I've come across any export/Repco paints that are more pressurised than other colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamousscribbler Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 but there is absolutely no fine control with that valve, even after letting pressure out of the can. Plus it's dusty, no matter what cap I used it gave me fuzzy lines. I have to say, I had the same issues. I used a few greens and purples, and while they do cover pretty well, I had to fight them to get crisp lines the whole time, even after reducing pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf1200 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 that sucks you guys had bad experiences regarding the MTN HC2, i've had the nothing but good experiences with it. Coverage is amazing and the high pressure makes short work of filling in. I've used the black, akari red, calcutta orange, guacamole green, various blues and purples, and all had very strong crisp lines using both the stock banana cap and fat pink dots. Other skinny caps didn't give such clean lines though, which makes me think they were designed for cans with lower pressure. All in all, it definitely isn't for small/finely detailed work. Some other low pressure paint would work better in that situation. FWIW, Lately I've found that Clash when used with those new AP skinny caps gives me some really sharp skinny lines, super sensitive valve. 69 Violet, clash yellow, coppola violet, pesto green, bile green all gave good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshpaintnyc Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 USE RUSTO. ZERO COMPLAINTS IN THE BOX. BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisUglyYetBeautifulWorld Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Quick question to all you paint saavy cats...since you cant do the sticker switch at the H Depot no more, I wanna know what are some good cheap cans? Im used to gettin rustos for a buck bit that aint possible no more, so I just need something for bombing, throwies, tags. Nothin serious like a piece or burner. im in the u.s. If that helps in pointing me in the right direction. I recently tried quick color with a new elmers fat cap and the shit comes out skinny now wtf I noticed they aint made by rusto anymore too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamousscribbler Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I can't help with too many specific recommendations aside from your standard Rusto, AA & PT, unless you find Walmarts that still stock their cheapo brand silvers and such. All I can say is try finding a good freight liquidation store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisUglyYetBeautifulWorld Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 found a GREAT online cheap paint site...sets of 6 for 12 bucks....sounds good to me cept the cheap brands offered are: SPRAYNGO (made by derusto) and Touch N Tone cans (also made by derusto) think ima try em touch n tone cans. they cant be any worse than the new quick color im guessing and for 12 bucks for 6 cans i aint got much too lose...now to find good caps for cheap cans cuz i know cheap cans are quite troublesome lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYLEISKING Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 8. Clash 7. Supertramp 6. MTN Hardcore 2 5. Flame 4. MTN 94 3. Flame Blue 2. Belton Molotow High-Pressure 1. Belton Molotow Premium - See more at: http://www.rooftop.sk/grafity/clanok/400ml-a-400ml-aneb-test-vydatnosti-sprejov-620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrderr420 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Thats one of the more informative wastes of paint I've seen, I got a gut feeling Rustoleum might outdo the Belton and Flame in Spades, and Montana Black cans seem to last a little while too, well at least compared to Sabotaz 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 So clash has shithouse coverage, is that what I'm seeing there? They're all 400ml cans, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I just assumed it was the high altitude here in Denver, but I wasn't terribly happy with the new MTN Hardcore 2. The paint itself was fine, aside from some weird show-thru bubbling when I tried to tighten up some lines, but I've had the same problem with MTN 94. Annoying, but nothing as bad as Chinese paint bleedthru. The problem I had was that I could not get a sharp line until the can was about 3/4 empty. NY Fat sprayed like a dusty blob. Astro fat = dusty blob. Universal cap = dusty blob. It's like no matter what you use, it sprays like a stock tip until the pressure is seriously reduced. I really like MTN paint, but this fussy valve is being marketed to us like old timey snake oil. It's supposed to be all purpose, but really serves no purpose. The old Hardcore valve sprayed wide, but at least it was predictable and clean. It looked fantastic with a NY Fat, which is more than I can say for the new valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 wish they would bring them out in Aust. love the idea of just doing a big chisel tip tag and outlining a piece. Walid you're the expert on the export /repco paint side of things have you come across any that is really high pressure? I got a bunch of those ultrawide nozzles but they just make a mess using exports.. need to find higher pressure so more paint escapes the nozzle You wanna get a handful of the ghetto blaster caps. super fat chisel tip spray pattern. male cap so no good on export/dulux but killer on an Ironlak/Reload and other female cans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 thanks for the tip I'm trying to find a can that matches a nozzle not a nozzle to match a can. need a male valve can to match the caps I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user unknown Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 What's everyone think about paint from monster colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 last time I used it it was rubbuish except for one colour called "Bruise" but that was 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cautionflamable Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 why?? caps are cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy roller. Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Has anyone used Yard Master by Ironlak? It's newer and supposed to be more fade resistant than regular Ironlak. I wonder how well it actually holds up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltrailer77 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It was discussed a few pages back, it's supposed to be specially formulated for metal. I still haven't gotten my hands on any yet tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Color palette is dope, but i'm not keen on 6.50/can + S/H. "keen" - read too many aussie posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 The fact that they don't have any colors with really unstable pigments helps, I'm sure. The valve is the same as Ironlak. The paint seems similar in terms of drying time. I can wipe it away with acetone effortlessly, just like Ironlak. I have to guess that it's Ironlak in a throwback can. If that's what you like, then you'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I have to guess that it's Ironlak in a throwback can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 How much do rustoleum 2x cans sell for in the states? $10.95 au ($9.97) are they worth buying since they are same price as Montana black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltrailer77 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 $3.50-$4.00. Sometimes you can work bulk buys and sales to get em for $3.00. I would say something about the female valve system being a pain in the ass, but it seems you Aussies got that handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 yeah they have just come out in a big hardware chain in au so I think I might try some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Oh yeah? Who's got them and what are they floggin them for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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