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Now I know this isn't related to spelling, but it does have to do with punctuation. How do I punctuate around quotation marks. Like if I have the sentence -

”Whenever there appears an art that is truly new and original the men who denounce it first and loudest are artists”

 

Do I put the period outside the quotations? or inside?

 

Damn art history essays.

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Well, Lush, you've hit a sore spot with me. The correct and accepted way to handle this situation is, to me, highly illogical and I refuse to bow to this convention in my own writing. But if you're trying to please a random professor, the punctuation goes inside the quotes, even if it is not part of the quote itself.

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Originally posted by seeking innocence

even better, what about when you have parenthesis... i know you love those cracked... hook it up.

 

First of all, "parenthesis" is singular, and its plural is "parentheses".

This is one parenthesis: (

These are parentheses: ()

As to your question, you'll have to clarify the situation in which you're trying to use parentheses. Do you mean in general, or inside a quote, or what? Different situations require different approaches.

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Originally posted by cracked ass

Thanks to Poop Man Bob for the clarification on "except". You may keep that small bit of pilfered thunder. :beat:

 

perhaps that thunder is mine... I call it strictly a modifier...

 

prepositions are things like in, out, over, near...

 

adjectives are descriptive, furry, fucked up, stoopid dope...

 

I have a usage dictionary handy, I just choose not to use it at this point...

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Originally posted by cracked ass

And by the way, Smarticus, you misspelled "privilege" a few posts back, even while trying to raise the issue of how commonly it is misspelled. :mexican:

 

well, I've never denied that I'm an idiot...

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Re: a related topic

 

Originally posted by Smart

not too long ago I was at the DMV and I saw a sign that read:

 

"Sorry"

This

Window

Closed

 

 

now I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

 

It sounds like random rage on your part, which occurs often at the DMV. I don't know what your objection to the sign is, besides having to wait in line longer due to understaffing.

The only thing that annoys me about that sign, and others I've seen like it, is that "sorry" is in quotes. Quotation marks are used to indicate that somebody else said it first, and you are quoting them. So who said "sorry" first, that the sign maker was quoting?

The culprit is actually aesthetics - the sign maker did not know how else to visually emphasize "sorry" without resorting to inappropriate punctuation. Some writing skills would have helped - a big tick-tock SORRY! blockbuster would probably convey the proper amount of regret.

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word......

 

hmmmm....this is my new favorite thread for two reasons:

 

1. it's (<--- !!) long overdue. kids on here cannot spell to save their lives.

2. more importantly, it's a really cynical and elitist thread. my kind of fun.

 

but, here's my caveat for all y'all....what role do ebonics and/or slang play in the presentation of proper grammar (or at least in mitigating the liklihood of incurring THE LAW's wrath). i am a fan of spelling "all appropriate and shit"....as it were...but i'm also a big fan of some stylisitic elements, such as:

 

1. no capitalized letters.

2. elipses instead of periods to signify stream of consciousness.

3. the heavy use of ebonics, such as "nahmean" to supplement and offset the inherantly dry quality of anglo-american english.

4. the use of slang such as "y'all" or "yo".

5. the use of colloquial, dialogue-oriented sentences such as "my kind of fun." (see above), which are technically fragment sentences.

6. finally, the bad habit of speed-typing, resulting in missing characters or "inverted letter" misspellings.

 

as long as i'm spelling the right words right, do you feel these infractions listed above contribute to the general degradation of our quality of life here at the DOZEN OZ ranch?

 

HOLLER!!!!

:dazed:

 

cee.neeezy.

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Originally posted by THE LAW

SPLENDID! THE LAW is very pleased with the developments in this thread.

 

let's not get too far ahead of ourselves though....baby steps...we don't want to lose the kids who are already behind. Those are the students we need to help the most.

I haven't really learned anything yet, but I'm definitely enjoying this thread.

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THE KING OF HELL wishes to adress mr ass.

why are you not crew status anymore?... have you deceided you no longer like us, or have we just not remedied the problem yet?

as fpor spelling and grammar, THE KING OF HELL has never cared about this, but thanks to THE LAW, WE are paying attention and leanring.

 

HELL will be grammar correct soon.

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Re: word......

 

Originally posted by niseNSF

hmmmm....this is my new favorite thread for two reasons:

 

 

but, here's my caveat for all y'all....what role do ebonics and/or slang play in the presentation of proper grammar (or at least in mitigating the liklihood of incurring THE LAW's wrath). i am a fan of spelling "all appropriate and shit"....as it were...but i'm also a big fan of some stylisitic elements, such as:

 

1. no capitalized letters.

2. elipses instead of periods to signify stream of consciousness.

3. the heavy use of ebonics, such as "nahmean" to supplement and offset the inherantly dry quality of anglo-american english.

4. the use of slang such as "y'all" or "yo".

5. the use of colloquial, dialogue-oriented sentences such as "my kind of fun." (see above), which are technically fragment sentences.

6. finally, the bad habit of speed-typing, resulting in missing characters or "inverted letter" misspellings.

 

as long as i'm spelling the right words right, do you feel these infractions listed above contribute to the general degradation of our quality of life here at the DOZEN OZ ranch?

 

HOLLER!!!!

:dazed:

 

cee.neeezy.

 

yo...niser...THE LAW is pleased by the fact that you are enjoying this thread. all of the things you mentioned are ok...in fact, THE LAW's major weakness is run-on sentences and sentence structure.....SOO...he uses A LOT of ellipses....

 

typos are completely understandable, slang is all right. Hell, THE LAW's business card even lists "slang consultant" as his primary occupation.

THE LAW is even willing to accept (<----!) "u" and "r". It's just the ignorance that bothers THE LAW. How can so many youngsters claim being writers when they can't spell correctly.?

 

 

some new lessons coming up later today!

 

don't let THE LAW catch you slipping..all your friends will laugh at you and it goes on your permanent record.

WREKUGNIZE THE LAW!

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yes...we can't change the world all at once though...baby steps. THE LAW doesn't wish to upset his citizens too much.

 

THE LAW is reasonable and is not calling for a spelling revolution, but a gradual takeover that is complete in every way.

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To the KING OF HELL:

A computer error demoted me from crew status, and nobody with the power has fixed it yet. I await restoration of my former status.

 

To NISER:

I agree with the LAW: be as colloquial or informal as you want, it's just a Net forum. I often unconsciously tailor my degree of grammatical accuracy to the seriousness of the thread, and lapse into "hiphop pidgin" for goofy topics. The only sticking point is blatant ignorance on the part of some heads on here, especially when their spelling and grammar are so bad it's difficult to divine their meaning. There's a difference between slang styling and illiteracy. (The worst is when people's screen names or signatures contain glaring errors that were unintentional.)

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haha...phew!

 

now i can post in relative tranquility....

 

the law.....i gotta compliment you on the thread...why do i feel like i know you? ehh, maybe not....i do love the 6th district court of appeal, though. that's fresh.

 

 

and yo, BL4CKH4M...whats up, bro...i last crossed paths with you in the infamously tasteless pitsburgh message board...good to see ya.

 

 

peas.

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THE KING OF HELL wishes cracked ass to know that this grievous error will be fixed.

 

look for a cenobite to escort you through the gates soon.

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Guest cracked ass

I believe that kid writes "seler", so his screen name was a legitimate play on words, not illiteracy. (His name still annoyed me though.)

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