Guest Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 He's a very, VERY frustrated Texan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by seeking actually, this nuclear business is way worse than just us continuing to build nuclear weapons, what we're working on is small nuclear weapons FOR PRACTICAL USE. not to have as a last resort, and not to have just for intimidation, but to actually use on an enemy. that is fucked beyond belief. ...that's exactly what i was getting at...the only thing that has prevented another world war has been the stalemate created by nuclear weapons...it's a game...we can't use them and neither can anyone else...building weopns merely allows other nations to play along...the minute that we started developing practical nuclear weopns that whole game changed...and if we do develop and test these small nukes we will all of a sudden be winning a very scary game of us against the world...i might have my facts a little mixed up...but i believe that it was prior to 9/11 that bush broke the nuclear test ban treaty inorder to begin developing these weapons...this is seriously scary as hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr8lover Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 hilarious out of context debate photo of the day http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20041001/capt.sge.ois34.011004074347.photo02.default-384x297.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr8lover Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 ahhhh http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040926/i/r1111463045.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 ...that reminds me...did anyone hear mcain talking after the debate about how well kerry did?...he was supposed to go on shows and do interviews to promote bush...but he got on there and told everyone how good kerry was...i'm gonna bet we won't hear much from him after the next debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Catch22 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by porque ...that reminds me...did anyone hear mcain talking after the debate about how well kerry did?...he was supposed to go on shows and do interviews to promote bush...but he got on there and told everyone how good kerry was...i'm gonna bet we won't hear much from him after the next debate... In 2000, McCain had George W. on the ropes and South Carolina was the do-or-die state. Flyers appeared from thin air alleging that McCain had a black child (he and his wife had adopted a Bangladeshi daughter from an orphanage there). Other fliers said McCain was the "fag candidate." Rumors swirled that McCain’s time in a North Vietnamese prison camp had left him unstable and downright crazy - again, hitting at the opponent's greatest strength. Other rumors were that his wife was a drug addict. Nice stuff, and none of it had Bush’s inky fingerprints on it. At an event with Bush, a vet from some fringe group accused McCain of abandoning veterans. That really set McCain off and he demanded an apology from Bush. Bush simply said that he believed McCain "served our country nobly." That’s what he says about Kerry now. Above the fray, clean hands, patrician. Soon after that, a mysterious group dumped $2 million into ads in more liberal New York attacking McCain’s environmental record and boosting Bush's. Eventually, it turned out the ads were bankrolled by a big Bush donor named Sam Wyly. No Bush fingerprints there either. I'm surprised Mccain backs him at all. I guess he has to back his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 1, 2004 Author Share Posted October 1, 2004 HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! www.youforgotpoland.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Here's the exact quote from Bush.. "I just think trying to be popular, kind of, in the global sense, if it‘s not in our best interest makes no sense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diggity Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 i got kicked outta target last night watching it. motherfuckers closed at 9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041001/i/r2801041496.jpg'> First thought i made when i saw that flick: DAMN I WANNA PHOTOSHOP A BLONDE WIG ON THIS ONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Re: HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Originally posted by Poop Man Bob www.youforgotpoland.com haha. awesome. that whole thing was a point kerry really could have hammered bush on. once bush kept coming back to kerry 'denegrating' the 'coalition', and reminding him of poland, kerry should slammed him with 'you're right, i did forget poland, i also somehow forgot the the solomon and marshall islands, palau and micronesia, all who gave....absolutely nothing! i had forgotten about costa rica too, but since they decided even the NOTHING they were giving us was too much, and dropped out, they don't really matter now." if kerry was allowed to call bush out, it would get really funny, really quick. we all saw how bush completely fell to shit by the end of the debate, and that was after just giving his only ideas, if he had to answer questions or respond to specific allegations by kerry, his head would explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father John Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 They both were horrible, when kerry was getting it in the ass he'd just smile and nod, and when bush was he'd just stumble over the easiest words...they are both chodes... the best you can do in this election is pick the lesser of two evils/kerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabble Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Damn! All these pages i tried to get on here last night while I was watching it, but I couldnt tear myself away. These things should have commercials. "What?! Of coarse I know Osama Bin Laden attacked us!!!" I have a feeling Bush was scribbling nasty things about John Kerry during the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T=E=A=S=E Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 you have to admit though, that kind of -on the spot- debating is not easy at all. for either person. and once again, kerry was much smoother over all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Found this in my inbox. Have fun. Why Bush Won the First Debate I must admit that I am surprised by poll results showing that a majority of voters state that they feel that John Kerry won the debate. However, I feel that my assessment will be proven correct in the long run. John Kerry said in the debate that his plan to end the war in Iraq can be found on his website. However, his website states that his actual plan is to get other countries to contribute more troops to Iraq. This is obviously a silly idea. The other countries are in Iraq now just to get a piece of the pie that America is carving out. As soon as America pulls out, the other countries will pull out too. Here is what the Kerry website states at http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_s...urity/iraq.html "Persuade NATO to make the security of Iraq one of its global missions and to deploy a portion of the force needed to secure and win the peace in Iraq." So, John Kerry plans to bring peace to Iraq by sending more troops there. I wonder how many voters understand that. I am the first to agree that the War in Iraq is going badly and is going to get worse. George Bush cannot afford to admit this. However, Kerry's solution to get other countries to send their troops to Iraq to replace American troops is just silly. Kerry made a lot of stupid statements in the debate. For example: We had Saddam Hussein trapped. Pretty funny. Saddam Hussein was "trapped" prior to the US invasion? Saddam Hussein was as happy as a clam. The money he was reaping off of the United Nations Food for Oil Program was making Saddam Hussein the richest man in the world. Unfortunately, he escaped in the mountains of Tora Bora. We had him surrounded. But we didn't use American forces, the best trained in the world, to go kill him. This statement is stupid because there is no evidence that Osama bin Laden was in Tora Bora. Sending American forces in to go kill him would just have gotten a lot more American soldiers killed. Bush replied: "The killer the mastermind of the September 11th attacks, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, is in prison." This reference always gets me because I knew Khalid Sheik Mohammad back in 1982 when he was a student at North Carolina Technical College. This always reminds me of the famous line from the old Japanese War movies, where the Japanese villain says: "I was educated in your country." we don't have enough troops there. Here, Kerry calls for more troops in Iraq, as though that will solve the problem. The president hasn't put one nickel, not one nickel into the effort to fix some of our tunnels and bridges and most exposed subway systems. That's why they had to close down the subway in New York when the Republican Convention was there. We hadn't done the work that ought to be done. Another ridiculous statement. The New York City subway system, the Long Island Railroad and the Amtrak lines of the old Penn Central Railroad all run directly under Madison Square Garden where the Republican National Convention was held. These railroad lines were built by Sam Sloan. A plan to fortify these areas to make them invulnerable to terrorist attack would have cost more than 10 billion dollars. It would probably have been impossible to achieve in any event. Where would that 10 billion dollars have come from? It would have been better to hold the convention in a remote area, like Death Valley Days. If Kerry would have spent 10 billion dollars on his plan to fortify Madison Square Garden, imagine the other expenditures he will make. North Korea has got nuclear weapons. Talk about mixed messages. The president is the one that said, "We can't allow countries to get nuclear weapons." They have. I'll change that. This is the sort of ridiculous statement John Kerry often makes. He says that he will stop North Korea and other countries from obtaining nuclear weapons. How does he plan to do that? He does not say. How does he plan to disarm North Korea, unless he plans to invade and start another Korean War? There's only 25 percent of the people in there. They can't have an election right now. Here John Kerry implies that he plans to cancel the elections in Iraq scheduled for January 2005 because only 25% of Iraqis are registered to vote. However, here in America it regularly happens that less than 25% of the eligible voters vote. If Kerry really plans to cancel the Iraq elections, this is a serious problem. The Vietnam War started when President Eisenhower cancelled the elections in Viet Nam. Kerry probably does not know much about VietNam history. the Pottery Barn rule: If you break it, you fix it. Everybody knows that the Pottery Barn Rule is: "If you break it, you own it" (and you have to pay for it). Question: "Can you give us specifics, in terms of a scenario, time lines, et cetera, for ending major U.S. military involvement in Iraq?" KERRY: The time line that I've set out and again, I want to correct the president, because he's misled again this evening on what I've said. I didn't say I would bring troops out in six months. Here, Kerry failed to answer this direct and very important question. Instead, he meandered around by telling us what he did not say. You have to close the borders. Another stupid remark. Iraq is flat, open, barren desert. It is impossible to close the borders. We cannot even close the border between the US and Mexico. Saddam Hussein would have been continually weakening. It is obvious that Saddam Hussein was not getting any weaker. To the contrary, the United Nations was under pressure to drop the sanctions altogether. Saddam Hussein was about to win. There is no reason to believe that further delays or another United Nations resolution would have brought Saddam Hussein to heel. Thirty-five to forty countries in the world had a greater capability of making weapons at the moment the president invaded than Saddam Hussein. Sure. Of course. All of the countries of Europe and all of the former republics of the Soviet Union had greater capacity to make nuclear weapons than Saddam Hussein had. However, those other countries do not have the history of attacking other countries and of killing their own people that Saddam Hussein had. in my plan, I add two active duty divisions to the United States Army, not for Iraq Here, Kerry says that he wants to increase the size of the US Military. I do not think that many voters want that. I certainly do not. No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons. Here, Kerry states that we can only make a preemptive strike to defend ourselves if we can pass a "global test" and prove to the world that we did it for legitimate reasons. How are we supposed to prove this to the world? In a court of law? What exactly is the Global Test that we are supposed to pass? Is it a multiple choice test or an essay test? Kerry is going to get hurt on this one. we could never allow another Rwanda. Kerry's plan is to become the policeman of the world. Do the voters really understand what he is saying? Bush said: "I won't hold it against him that he went to Yale. There's nothing wrong with that." In case anybody missed this one-liner, it is a joke. George W. Bush and John Kerry both went to Yale. BUSH: I'm trying to put a leash on them. Here, George W. Bush tries to make light of the fact that he has been having trouble because of the tendency of his two daughters to be arrested for getting drunk in public and messing around with drugs and boys. he's not acknowledging the realities of North Korea It is obviously John Kerry who is not acknowledging the realities of North Korea. He keeps saying that the North Koreas will become really nice to us. All we need to do is talk to them in private. I know exactly what we need to do in Iraq, and my position has been consistent: Saddam Hussein is a threat. He needed to be disarmed. We needed to go to the U.N. The president needed the authority to use force in order to be able to get him to do something, because he never did it without the threat of force. This is the real problem with John Kerry. He admits that Saddam Hussein was a threat. However, then he says that the president needed the authority to disarm him. What authority did the President of the United States need to defend us against a threat. Did he need a permission slip from Russia? From China? We could have bilateral talks with Kim Jong Il. And we can get those weapons at the same time Perhaps the most stupid statement of all by John Kerry. He imagines that all we have to do is agree to talk to the North Koreans and then they will give us all their nuclear weapons. Has Kerry ever heard of the Korean War? On the substantive issues, Bush clearly won the debate. I am surprised that the polls show that Kerry won. True, Kerry had a more impressive hair-do, is taller, speaks better and looks more presidential than Bush. However, I do not believe that these factors will lead anybody to change their minds and to vote for Kerry. I believe that the polls merely show that Kerry won on speaking style and presentation. Bush leads on believability, sincerity and substance. Does anybody really believe Kerry's claims that he could just waive his magic wand and end the threats posed by North Korea, Iran and Iraq? Sam Sloan 920 Belmont Avenue Brooklyn NY 11208 718-327-3669 http://www.samsloan.com/candidates.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armadilla Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 "These railroad lines were built by Sam Sloan. " Sam Sloan 920 Belmont Avenue Brooklyn NY 11208 wait, the same guy who brought us modern mass transportation is also the guy who wrote this (completely horseshit) 'rebuttle'?! honestly, i dont even know why you posted that shit. if he had made valid arguments against what kerry said, i would have happily admitted that kerry made mistakes, but that was just a whole load of poppy-cock. "BUSH: I'm trying to put a leash on them. Here, George W. Bush tries to make light of the fact that he has been having trouble because of the tendency of his two daughters to be arrested for getting drunk in public and messing around with drugs and boys. " the motherfucker can't even keep his daughters in line, and we're supposed to believe he can keep the world inline?! ohhhhhhh kkkkkkkkkk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by T=E=A=S=E you have to admit though, that kind of -on the spot- debating is not easy at all. for either person. and once again, kerry was much smoother over all. that's the thing, it's VERY tough to really be 'quick on your feet' like that, but I would expect the President of the US to be one hell of an extraordinary man. Apparently Bush is very likeable when you meet him in real life, but I think Clinton would just kill every president except for maybe Kennedy in the popularity contests. Is it too much to ask that a GREAT man will be the leader of a great nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Jump Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 bush needs his own reality show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual T. Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 9 pages in one day? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 More bush notes: http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/bushnotes.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeightyone Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Re: Found this in my inbox. Have fun. the debate was a good one, i liked how they had the screen on bush a little higher to make him seem "at level" with kerry, because he's smaller then him, if the cameras were to be put level on each other then bush would have seems less of a man really, overall i think kerry is a great choice for president, but what many people dont understand is when you pick a president your going 50/50 really, essentially the candidates talk bullshit and they will hardly ever do anything to benefit the underlings. i wish clinton was still president, that nigga had shit on lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 they frame them the same way so they look the same height. however... the microphone gives it all away. and I'm proud of John Kerry for not getting all sweaty. Dont want to lose the female vote. (I hear women dont like to be lead by sweaty men) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by seeking honestly, i dont even know why you posted that shit. That's what I wanted to say to Sam, don't shoot the messenger. I wanted everyone to see what kind of hardheaded ca-ca they're feeding people to keep them from acknowledging Kerry is the more qualified /articulate of the two. There's the bulletin for all the cute, cuddly republicans out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 http://www.conspire.com/fox-photoshop.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I could have sworn I just posted a reply with some conservative views on the debate from another forum. Am I insane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SayOne Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Father John They both were horrible, when kerry was getting it in the ass he'd just smile and nod, and when bush was he'd just stumble over the easiest words...they are both chodes... that is what i was saying after the debate, they pretty much agreed on everything when you break it all down..these fuckin crackers:rolleyes: www.youforgotpoland.com <= is genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Re: More bush notes: Originally posted by Nekro http://www.thetalentshow.org/images/bushnotes.jpg'> how dare you use the weezer logo for such a foul reason!! rivers pisses on you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Bush's debate summed up in one picture. http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041001/i/r1099765537.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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