Pfffffffffft Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141070 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Mercury Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 RN we always put up travelers, road dogs, and the like...PM if ever thru Indiana...I can promise booze and women and awful hangovers and safe catch out spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 RN we always put up travelers, road dogs, and the like...PM if ever thru Indiana...I can promise booze and women and awful hangovers and safe catch out spots. ill probably be heading through little rock then chicago so ill be in that general area. ive never been to indiana..sounds like my kind of disaster haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I can offer the same in southern/central IL and am willing to pick a nurga up. Holla. I have the best catch out ever. I've long wanted to ride CSX from the HN cabin to Terre Haute. one never knows what can happen. Making a mess of the midwest tour 2013 \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfraRed Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just rode piggybacks from Spokane to Whitefish and back. Slept in the jungle a few nights and cleaned it up. Throw your trash on the train! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Or burn it, but either way, Keep a Clean Camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 its taking forever to get the money i need to do what i gotta do before railroad sweatfest 2013. im goin crazy. that dallas intermodal terminal didnt look very inviting i tell you whut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Fran the Hobo Minstrel caught the Westbound yesterday. RIP, brother. He was in poor health, and died of a brain aneurysm in the hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaBar2 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Cool. A forty-miler has to beat a "no-miler," which is what I've been for a number of years now. I tell you true, boys, I CANNOT FUCKIN' WAIT until I retire. Three years. It might as well be thirty-three. Seems like fuckin' forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 i love tim barry. ghost train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Uno Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 It's been awhile since I've been active on 12oz, but I'm really glad to see this thread still around. KaBar, when are you going to write a book? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Choofly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Well, so far I've written a screenplay and a cook book. I'm thinking about self-publishing the cook book. I don't know, man--I think books on hoboing kind of ought to be published by full-time, 24-7 tramps, not old usta-be's like me. You know? I got three years to go until I can retire, so if I make it, maybe I'll write one then. Anybody know of a likely publisher? Or even an agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolling nowhere Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Good to not be in texas. Still hot but not texas hot. Ahhhh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's the humidity---or rather, the lack thereof, where you are. September's nearly over and it's STILL FREAKIN' SUMMER HERE. Please, Mr. Winter, hurry your ass up. (You know you live in the sub-tropics when . . . you can go surfing on Christmas Day.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Heard from Stretch yesterday. He's headed for Mississippi to visit his girlfriend with a young trainhopper in tow. They called me from the yard in Fulton, KY. He said he got busted for trespassing in Memphis and spent a couple of days in jail, but wasn't too concerned now that he no longer has Burl to worry about. The only problem was that the police confiscated his gear and were making a huge hassle out of getting it back. He was released to the street with nothing but the clothes on his back, but apparently he has acquired different gear--an ALICE pack, USGI sleeping bag, etc. This is something I definitely do not understand. How can the police confiscate a tramp's personal property without due process of law? No court order means illegal confiscation. To me, it seems like it borders on "official oppression by law enforcement officers." Confiscating a tramp's pack and bedroll without due process of law is tantamount to confiscating a straight citizen's house or car without due process of law. It's just straight up unconstitutional. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Heard from Stretch yesterday. He's headed for Mississippi to visit his girlfriend with a young trainhopper in tow. They called me from the yard in Fulton, KY. He said he got busted for trespassing in Memphis and spent a couple of days in jail, but wasn't too concerned now that he no longer has Burl to worry about. The only problem was that the police confiscated his gear and were making a huge hassle out of getting it back. He was released to the street with nothing but the clothes on his back, but apparently he has acquired different gear--an ALICE pack, USGI sleeping bag, etc. This is something I definitely do not understand. How can the police confiscate a tramp's personal property without due process of law? No court order means illegal confiscation. To me, it seems like it borders on "official oppression by law enforcement officers." Confiscating a tramp's pack and bedroll without due process of law is tantamount to confiscating a straight citizen's house or car without due process of law. It's just straight up unconstitutional. What's worse is when they throw your shit out because its "broken", or make you leave it on the street where you get picked up. Glad to hear he got out of jail, I've heard terrible things about the Memphis jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I went on a tour of Houston yards and catch-outs with Roadkill yesterday. WEe drove around and looked at Englewood, and tried to get to Settegast Yard, but that neighborhood is so bad I didn't want to stay there long. We visited the Eureka Hilton, and I'm sorry I did. I don't know why I ever hope that tramps will ever take care of the jungle, but I do. It was a disaster--piles and piles of garbage and filthy, wet clothes everywhere. The area around the jungle is littered with probably hundreds of empty wine bottles and beer cans. The interior is totally trashed--filthy dirty, totally unkept. It looks like totally ignorant homebum idiots have been staying there, dragging up all kinds of useless shit--junked bicycles, broken electrical crap, etc., etc. Too stupid to burn their own garbage, too stupid to realize if they throw trash on the ground it's going to attract the cops. I'm sorry we built it, really. I kind of wanted to just torch it. Ignorant fucking assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 That sucks. All the effort you guys put into it just for some junkie, wino pieces of shit to ruin it for the tramps. You should have torched it. Let the rats rebuild. (ya right) Kind of makes me wonder how the jungle down by CSX headquarters in Jacksonville is doing. That was nice. All kinds of bamboo frames that all you had to do was throw a tarp over and be all right. The homebums had trashed the area around it so the guy manning the drawbridge was pretty uptight but the jungle proper was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryletters Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Hey pals, how's everyone doing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm reading a non-fiction book right now called Mole People, written in 1993 by a woman named Jennifer Toth. It's about people who live in the subway tunnels and railroad tunnels under Manhattan in NYC. Pretty fascinating. There's a whole chapter devoted to graffiti writers (Ch. 12, Tunnel Art) that mentions NYC writers from the '90s--Chris Pape (who signed "Freedom,") Roger Smith ("Smith") and his brother David Smith ("Sane.") I don't know hardly anything about graff history, but Sane drowned in the Hudson River years ago (some people say suicide, others say he fell from a bridge while being pursued by persons unknown) and the other two, Freedom and Smith have probably long since retired from graff by now. It's pretty interesting, how the tunnel people have groups sort of like tribes, and how they communicate among themselves using people called "runners" who carry messages from group to group underground. All the rats and garbage and shit sounds unbelievably creepy to me, though. UGH. Not my cup of tea at all. If I was in these guys' shoes, I'd catch out for Montana and never look back, but different people do things differently. A census of tunnel dwellers in the 1990's showed about 5,600 people living in the NYC subway tunnels. It's hard to imagine. Five thousand people? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rack101 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 watch sneak attack 2, they have this hobo named Malachi also known as Ride Hard Retard who rode the rails, du´says that 'ever since republicans took over the world, we are looked as nothing' his advice is `your better off what your doing´ also i recommend Dark Days a documentay on nyc tunnels they have a writer named ment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Uno Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Well, so far I've written a screenplay and a cook book. I'm thinking about self-publishing the cook book. I don't know, man--I think books on hoboing kind of ought to be published by full-time, 24-7 tramps, not old usta-be's like me. You know? I got three years to go until I can retire, so if I make it, maybe I'll write one then. Anybody know of a likely publisher? Or even an agent? I understand where you're coming from, but your stories and your know-how are awesome. I imagine something more along the lines of an autobiography with some useful information as opposed to a manual or guidebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Rack101-- Don't blame just the Republicans. Tramps and hobos have been disregarded by just about everybody since the trainhopping first started, way back in the 1860's, after the Civil War. People have a tendency to be sort of myopic about social trends. Trust me, the Democratic Party, which is the party of slavery, the Confederacy and Jim Crow, have plenty of sins for which to answer. The rank-and-file Democrats naively think they are actually running the party. NOT HARDLY. The Democratic Party has millions of minorities on welfare and all manner of Federal subsidy programs. Do you think all those people, stuck on welfare, unwilling to go out and support themselves are ever going to vote any other way than for the party that provides the meager pittance upon which they live? Not on your life. That why critics of the Democrats say that they keep their constituents "down on the plantation." They think that getting a welfare check every month is helping them, but it just keeps them enslaved. Thousands of welfare families moved from New Orleans to Houston after Hurricane Katrina devastated NOLA. But they're not on welfare here. Why is that? Because the local political machine does not want thousands of dependent welfare cases languishing in Houston. They got FEMA support and welfare for a while, but here in Houston it's stupid to remain on welfare when you can actually get a decent job and move into a decent apartment. We don't have those massive Federal housing projects here like they had in New Orleans. I talked to a guy at work who was nearly drowned during Katrina who said "That hurricane was the best thing that ever happened to me. I've got my own place, I've got a car now, a job. If I had stayed in New Orleans, I'd just be doing the same poor-boy shit I always did." It may seem counter-intuitive, but giving people something that they have not earned is bad for them. It hurts their self esteem, it makes them think they are weak and can't make it on their own. If somebody wants to help somebody who is down-and-out, OFFER HIM A JOB. Then he can EARN the money he needs to live a decent life and have some self-respect. And if he really wants to be a free man, he can START HIS OWN BUSINESS and then he'll be able to employ other people. Nobody makes people get sucked into that cycle of debt and credit addiction, always looking for some new toy, some new trinket to make them feel better about themselves. They do it to themselves because they have been propagandized for years to think that way. Most tramps are far from poor, but they spend what money they do get on expensive habits, like smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol and using drugs. A pack of cigarettes costs what? $6.50 a pack? Two packs a day is $13. Seven days a week is $91. EVERY WEEK. That's pretty close to FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH just so you can give yourself cancer, heart disease and emphysema. I know several tramps who put away a thirty-pack of Busch tall boys just about every other day. That's about $45 or $50 a week. Add in drugs and food (people do have to eat, after all) and it's beginning to look like about a thousand a month just to hang out, smoke cigarettes and drink beer all day. And of course, if you're drinking fifteen beers a day, you aren't going to be sober enough to work. So they fly a sign. I can think of better ways to spend my life than standing on a street corner holding up a cardboard sign, but "whatever." I don't condemn them for it, they're free to fly a sign all day if that's what they want to do, but it definitely ain't my style. Tramps that are not self-supporting often stay in or near to big cities, because they are living off the refuse of society. Small towns don't create enough usable trash to support very many people. So they travel some maybe, but gravitate towards bigger cities. I hate big cities. Getting the hell OUT of big cities is what attracted me to trainhopping to begin with. I want to be out in the wide open spaces, or if not out in the boondocks, at least in a small town. And that requires me to be self-supporting. If you work a regular job, then you are paying taxes. If you are paying taxes, then you are supporting all manner of government activities with which you may not agree--huge military establishments, all manner of police and prisons, bureaucrats meddling in other people's lives, etc. I dislike all that, but the thing that sticks in my craw the worst is paying people welfare to sit on their ass while I am out working. It is against everything in which I believe. I feel like the government is robbing me at gunpoint, and giving my money to people who think they are entitled to be supported by the rest of us. SUPPORT YOURSELF. It's the first rule of being an independent, free adult. I have slept in the weeds many a night, and I have dumpster-dived for chow quite a few times, but I do my best to pay my own way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikrant chhabra Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Hello friend's ..........some thing new for all, bottoms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wow. Banned in five posts? That was fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatcar Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Folks, Fran's Daughter has given me permission to maintain the "Grapevine". I have moved it to hobo.com. If you wish anything posted there, email me frank@hobo.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Looks good, Frank. My only suggestion would be to add captions below photographs, etc. to identify who or what it is and the date. There are a lot of name-brand musicians, singers and songwriters who perform up at Britt. For the well-known guys it's good publicity for them for their pro bono performance to be noted and publicized. It's good for Britt itself, to let potential newcomers know that name acts perform there, and for the neophyte acoustic musicians, it's a feather in their caps to be able to use performing at Britt as a resume' item. We all owe you a debt of gratitude for volunteering to operate the Grapevine. It would have been really sad to see so much of Fran's hard work just disappear. It's the curse of the Internet. (BTW, this is an area where Blackie really shined. He published his stuff in book form. No doubt fifty years from now he'll be a celebrated Iowa poet, and lionized by the very establishment that scorned him while he was alive.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is why you should NEVER ride a stinker, or on a car anywhere close to a stinker. http://news.msn.com/us/mayor-nd-town-dodged-a-bullet-in-train-derailment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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