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thanks everyone for the valuable, and funny advice. i know this is natural for someone to be curious, but in the back of my mind i can't help but wonder if she's going to have a distorted point of view when she gets older. she'll probably just grow up to be a horny, normal teenager. i'm just thinking about it too much just bcuz, i didn't grow up that way. oh well, thanks again everyone...

 

oh and you're right eff; the joy of sex is kinda outdated. i never did get to see that book though, but i heard it was pretty retro...:lol:

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i say have the sex talk and all that, but i wouldnt focus on the masturbation issue directly. you said shes a recluse, have her play sports or something. get her out of the house, and then shell probably only masterbate when shes in bed at night or something.

 

 

and how the fuck did she get credit card numbers?

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Originally posted by rental

i say have the sex talk and all that, but i wouldnt focus on the masturbation issue directly. you said shes a recluse, have her play sports or something. get her out of the house, and then shell probably only masterbate when shes in bed at night or something.

 

 

and how the fuck did she get credit card numbers?

 

she didn't get credit card numbers, with digital cable you can just order off of the tv and it gets billed to you.

 

 

my post was the one that involved credit card numbers.

 

 

and i have no fucking idea how he got the numbers.. i probably left my wallet on the table when i visited or something.

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guess what? the problem just got worse...

 

i just found out that this little bitch

has been lying about EVERYTHING.

 

she hasn't turned in no homework for the past

how many weeks now, and now they're gonna

have a little meeting at school about it. she's is

constantly mouthing off to her mother. right now

she has no cable tv and there is a filter on the computer...

 

her naive father bought her another anime book,

not knowing it was on some homosexual shit. he

didn't even bother to open the book and check it!

unfucking-believable...

 

i wanna beat the shit out of her now. but i know if i

yell she's going to cry, and then she's gonna keep on doing it...

 

i wanna smoke a cigarette now even though i don't smoke.

breathe in, breathe out...

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If it was my son, I'd beat him really bad, and not allow him to go to school for the next month, for fear of child services coming after me.

 

If it was my daughter, I'd get my wife to beat her. Or, I'd try some approach like telling her it's not very lady like to watch porn. That there's better things in life like playing baseball. Tell her about my buddy who hasn't been laid in seven years, and is addicted to porn like crazy. That it has warped his mind, and that she doesn't wanna be some lonely woman with a warped mind when she's older, most likely.

 

by the way, my buddy who is messed up because of porn, well, his mom bought him his own copy of Joy of Sex when he was ten.

 

P.S. You say some of it is anime porn? I hope it's not japanese anime tentacle porn!

 

When I was 12, thinking about Brenda Walsh doing the nasty with Dylan McKay got me horny! This girl needs to play sports! And lots of it!

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Wow...Wasn't expecting all this at all. So many people have given excellent advice.I guess all I can say is it seems that the lying and stealing is a big issue here. If she needs to have porn she can get it with her babysitting money or something. I hope the school situation gets sorted out.. :o

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damn no kidding, i wish she would play sports, or be active, or something!

 

we went to disneyland once, and she got tired after a couple of hours.

she's not very active at all; active imagination maybe...

 

she's kinda overweight too. she loves to eat.

her dad belittles her often and tells her to lose weight,

and to stop eating so much. it hasn't motivated her at all to lose weight.

she has low self-esteem due to her dad talking to her lilke that.

maybe this is what's driving her to escape to anime porn wonderland...

 

::sigh::

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Originally posted by slave_one

damn no kidding, i wish she would play sports, or be active, or something!

 

we went to disneyland once, and she got tired after a couple of hours.

she's not very active at all; active imagination maybe...

 

she's kinda overweight too. she loves to eat.

her dad belittles her often and tells her to lose weight,

and to stop eating so much. it hasn't motivated her at all to lose weight.

she has low self-esteem due to her dad talking to her lilke that.

maybe this is what's driving her to escape to anime porn wonderland...

 

::sigh::

 

aw, what a turkey! That's no way to treat one's own daughter! If you are close with this girl and see her often, you need to big her up lots and lots. she won't have to watch what she eats so much if she plays basketball or soccer, though. It would be a huge investment for her future well-being. It all makes sense, the way you put it. She probably just made a mistake ordering that porn, and I bet she feels embarrassed by it, which is too bad, since it doesn't sound like she needs the lower self-esteem. I hate seeing kids down and out like that!

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i watched the R.Crumb documentary, and they talk to this chick who has been into porn her whole life, to the point that as an adult, she edits a few adult rags, injcluding but not limited to Juggs and Leg Show..

 

in the docu she talks about spending her whole 18yearoldbday gift on porn. and how happy it made her!

 

well, some people are what they are i guess.

 

i was well aware of sex and orgasms at an extremely early age..truth be told, i cannot remember when i discovered that sexual stimulation=pleasure because it was at such an early age

i was very lucky though, to have very stern (but not prudish parents) who really taught me the importance of love and respect in sex.

 

if a person knows that, they can't really go too wrong on the subject later (you hope)

but if they don't...who the fuck knows what the potential is.

 

i'd be torn up about this if i were you..

on the one hand, telling her parents might not do anything. if they can't see the problem now, they may not ever.

but girl has a huge potential to become a sex-worker

 

if i were you i would talk to her about the seedy, nasty side of sex.

let's face it, she has already seen what there is to see.

she needs to understand how to keep herself out of potentially dangerous situations..

 

i can see the guys here aren't really seeing it.

sure, she's doing what comes naturally (no pun intended) and maybe it is curiosity, or now has become the fulfillment of very natural needs and urges, but in today's sexual climate, a woman needs to understand HOW TO PROTECT herself and WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT..

 

i'm talking about the whole gamut:

internet predators, personal/classified ads, becoming a sex-industry worker, AIDS/HIV, and all the other STDs, early pregnancy, and a devaluing of what should be a sacred act.

 

while these lessons might not be as vital to young boys, women are at a much higher risk for that type of shit, and if they become victims, the consequences have the potential to be far worse.

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!@#$% always comes correct.

 

I think American parents in general are just too scared of the subject.

 

I never got the birds and bees talk from my parents. Instead, I got an in depth sex ed class at the catholic elementary school I was attending. Apparently the school sent something home to my parents letting them know all the 5th graders were receiving the class. When my parents found out, they simply said if I have any questions... to just ask them.

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Originally posted by SteveAustin

!@#$% always comes correct.

 

yes, always...

 

kids are so freakin spoiled nowadays; this girl's got everything;

when i was 12 i had no cable TV and no computer, not even a TV in my room!

her parents give her everything she wants. i had to work for my shit.

she doesn't even do chores...

 

do you think she will comprehend the seedy side of sex if i attempt to explain?

she says she's just curious, but there's too many other signs to think otherwise.

 

they're getting me to talk to her about all this stuff, but i'm not a very confident

speaker. i might screw up her whole entire view of sex & life if i say the wrong thing...

 

man, i really wanna smoke a cig.

did i say that already?

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slave...

I think the fact that you are talking to her period is a good start. you seem to have a really good head on your shoulders. I don't really think you can fuck her up any worse than she may already be. why aren't her parents trying to talk to her? is it because they're embarrassed or because she won't listen to them?

Parents need to get more involved in their kids lives.

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thank you steve, i appreciate that...

 

they're bent on punishing her right now,

not only for the porn, but her fucking up in school,

and not doing homework and lying constantly.

 

if they continue to punish her, i'm sure she will withdraw

from them. i'm upset mostly because she is a spoiled brat.

i wanna hear her side of the story and listen, but it doesn't help when

she is being dishonest and not meeting her parents even halfway.

 

so much to explain to her: love vs. lust, diseases, the physical vs. mental aspects of sex...even i'm overwhelmed. sheesh, i feel like a parent.

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thanks for the votes of confidence..

 

you feel like a parent because you have assumed a vital role

 

oyu seem pretty together and healthy.

i seriously doubt anything you'll impart to her will screw her up (especially not any more than if you did nothing)

 

if i were you, i would keep things general

i wouldn't speak from experiences, only because kids sometimes wanna test that shit

(it didn't work for her, but maybe i can get it to work for me) ..plus you don't want to alienate yourself from her, like what you are describing in hers & her parent's relationship.

 

it's a tough situation.

 

don't judge her, i mean, porn is not "wrong"

but not having any self-worth is.

she should be taught that her sexuality belongs to her; that exploring it is fine but she should be careful not to go too far too fast..

make sure she knows she's got her entire adult life to be a slut. for now, she should fugure out who she is before a relationship defines her (regardless of what that relationship may be)

make sure she isn't vulnerable, or curios to the point of experimenting with others.

 

 

i looked through the net, and there is shockingly little advice on how to deal with this.

 

here's some advice from the american medical association..

 

Tips for Parents Regarding Teens and Sex

 

The following tips are provided for informational purposes only. Parents and caregivers should consult with their physician or health care provider regarding medical concerns and health issues. These tips are from the AMA's Parent Packet available in PDF format at AMA Adolescent Health Resources.

 

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Teens need accurate information and decision-making skills to help protect them from pressure to have sex, unintended pregnancy, and HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

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If talking with your teen about sex is difficult for you, admit it. Keep a sense of humor.

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Use TV, movies, articles, and real-life situations such as a friend's pregnancy to begin talking about sex.

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Share your values regarding sex. If you believe a person should save having sex until marriage, say so. Accept that your teen may choose to have sex despite your values.

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Don't assume that if your teen asks questions about sex, he or she is necessarily thinking about having sex.

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Ask your teen what he or she wants to know about sex. If you don't know an answer, admit it. Find answers with your teen in books, other resources, or from your health care provider.

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Reassure your teen that not everyone is having sex and that it is okay to be a virgin. The decision to become sexually active is too important to be based on what other people think or do.

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Your first talk with your teen about sex should not be your last. Talk to with your teen about sex on an ongoing basis. Let your teen know that you are always willing to talk about any question or concern he or she may have about sex.

 

from

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/10254.html

 

 

also, go here

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/1981.html

 

and scroll down to "The Parent Package"

download the PDF

and look at

Teens and Sex

 

there's some more info and resources there

 

 

 

and..

 

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/

 

find the local office, and call them up and tell them what you're going through..these women have heard it all, i'm sure someone will at least give you some support.

 

good luck!

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Originally posted by iloveboxcars

she didn't get credit card numbers, with digital cable you can just order off of the tv and it gets billed to you.

 

 

my post was the one that involved credit card numbers.

 

 

and i have no fucking idea how he got the numbers.. i probably left my wallet on the table when i visited or something.

 

 

 

i was thinking she was ordering dvds from online or something. i didnt read what you wrote.

 

 

 

*also, i dont really think the porn thing is bad either. i dont think theres anything wrong with teen sexuality, i just think they should do shit about the stealing porn and grades and social problems. it just sounds like shes been really neglected by her parents. spoiling does not equal parenting.

 

** did i just hear someones ego pop? v v v v:)

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