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Photographing Graffiti IS ILLEGAL


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you can do all you want...but the fact is you probably wont see any money or any justice

 

cops are fucking invincible

 

in san francisco 3 undercovers beat the shit out of some dude over a fajita....this shit was all over the news and geuss what happened?? almost nothing...they got suspended or someshit and that was about it

 

this is why i write KILL PIGS on public property

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Originally posted by porque

i'm trying to give advice to people that may actually benefit from it...if you don't want to listen to it, fine...go ahead and be a complete dick to every cop and judge you come across and see how far it takes you...

 

bingo. punk rock is dead.

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i don't know why you even said you were photographing graf...

 

there's plenty of excuses you could have come up with if you actually thought about it...

 

"no officer, there is no problem...I am an illustrator and was gathering research materials for a project i'm doing"

 

"no sir, i am a photography student and i am working on my thesis, the theme is "urban decay"..." yadda yadda yadda...

 

if you have a half decent explanation of what you were doing formulated before you do it, most of the time you won't get harassed, and usually if you sound like you know what you're talking about and they have no clue they'll just dismiss it as whatever and move along...COPS HATE DOING PAPERWORK

 

i used to hate cops when i was younger, usually due to paranoia because i'd be driving around with 2 ounces of weed in my trunk, but as i got older, and more on the legal side of the law, i realized, these guys are just doing their job...

 

cops are used to people buggin out on them...which makes them super defensive...so any hostility you show gives them a reason to fuck with you...flexing your knowledge of the law johnny cochrane style doesn't do shit...if you wanna protest your rights violated, be calm, AND ASK FOR THEIR NAME AND BADGE NUMBER...

 

and no they don't have to read you your rights till you're actually in the station, interrogated and actually charged with something...

 

not tryin to come off like an authority on cops, i avoid them whenever possible but i've had a few close calls and avoided getting bagged by treating them with respect even if i didn't mean it...

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he didn't ask me what i was doing, i didn't say what i was doing.

 

 

i don't think of all cops as pigs, oinkers, or anthing like that. hell, i'm trying to become a cop. well, within the next few years at least. just that one particular cop was a fat piece of shit that had nothing better to do. thats why i reffered to him as an oinker. i've already said this. read damnit.

 

 

i know htey have to do their job, but in that area, theres more than just graffiti going on. theres robberies, drug dealing, kids breaking curfew, and shit like that. i wasn't doing any of the above. just an 18 year old kid in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

and porque, i wasn't being a dick towards what you were saying, only the peopel that totally flamed my ass ofr no apparent reason.

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see if you werent an idiot you could have avoided going to a police precinct cell for an hour just by telling the police that you were taking pictures for a reason, and its not that hard to make something up for example u are doing a school report, or u are going to report the vandalism to the police etc etc etc....

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Originally posted by seeking

are you 17?

who the fuck says 'oinkers'?

who the fuck even says 'pigs' anymore?

are you in the black panthers?

grow up.

if you had acted like an adult, you would never have had to go through any of that. no cop, no matter how corrupt, is going to arrest someone for taking photos of graffiti if the person has even an ounce of intelligence. you could have possibly been able to sue, but by acting like that, you just shot your case, which only had one leg to stand on in the first place, in it's only good foot.

 

don't act like a retard and retarded shit won't happen to you.

 

 

 

haha the good old seeking putting muthafuckas in they place

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I'm sure that this has already been covered.. but you taking pictures of graffiti and taking pictures of a van gogh are completely different things.

 

"graffiti is art" lost the battle long ago with me. I see it as art.. but it is a completely different entity from sketching and painting canvas and sculpting. keep in mind no one is going to think it's art in court. try to pull "graffiti is art" in court and you'll get laughed at. become smarterer from this experience instead of wallowing in your hatred for this specific "oinker." Don't go to court, just don't act like a fucking asshat (cue mr. peanut) next time.

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are you guys fucked in the head.. hes 17... say you were doing it for a school project documentary... and if seeking knows ANYTHING about the law he would no that he dident shoot himself in the foot.... you can still sue and win.. They dident read you your rights and faulse imprisonment are fround on more then a few fucks here and there...Witch is coverd by your freedom of speech.. who wouldent be pissed... But you will not win if you dont have a paid lawyer.... My advice is call a lawyer tell him the situation and hire him... It dosent matter if the judge will not see grafitti as art.. This is silly... You have the right as a american to photograph grafitti if you want. Do newspaper photographers get arrested for it ? no.... Its not like you were taken pictures of kiddy porn... Just because some of these idiots on here have there head up there asses dont let it stop you from sueing these cocksuckers.... its about time someone stood up to the unessicary bullshit these cops put people threw....

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Cops have the right to detain you under probable cause. he said he had a report of vandalism he catches you there, thats probable cause right there. unless he tells you your under arest specifically "your under arrest" then you dont need to be marandized. as far as holding you they held you to question you, you dont have to answer if you dont want remember probable cause, as far as them letting you go cuase of the judge he was right they had no reason to hold you and book you i dont see a lawsuit plus further more if it went trial or court they would want to know why you were there and all that whole nine yards so it might be a loose loose situation they might think your invloved and start watching you...

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