GLIK$ Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I walked through Union Square last night on my way to a show yelling out. BOOOOOSH BOOOOOOOOSH There's nothing interesting going on in these protests. Just a bunch of people who think they're making a change sitting around with signs taped to pickets. Their words, their actions; all wasted. Nothing they're going to do will change a thing. If people feel so strongly about this, form some kind of politcal party to run against what you deem as evil. Your tofu eating asses aren't going to do anything sitting in Union Square, or getting naked and making America gag on their expensive oversized lunches. Can't change a lightbulb by holding a sign up at it from outside your living room window... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 There's no such thing as conservative punk. Punk is fucking punk, there's no conservative about it. Fucking yuppies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040829/i/r100081193.jpg'> 200k to 250k estimated today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040829/capt.sge.ezj84.290804181842.photo03.default-380x247.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 boy do i wish i had c-span right now.. my mother just called and said it was crazy in NYC right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar2 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Gotta Admit, It's Impressive And pretty well-behaved so far. BTW, the Chicago Democratic National Convention in '68 is officially termed "The 1968 Chicago Police Riot," because what happened is that the Chicago cops, encouraged by Mayor Daly (who was an immensely powerful and super corrupt Democratic Party "machine" politician) attacked the heretofor peaceful anti-war demonstrators outside the Convention. Once that happened, the crowds started fighting back, the Governor called out the Illinois National Guard, and the fight was on. The biggest battle was the police trying to push the protestors encamped in the park out of the park and into the streets. Tons of both silent 16mm film and Super-8 film was shot during the street battles. The most famous shots are the anarchists from Yippie! wearing gas masks and throwing tear gas canisters back at the cops and National Guard, and a huge crowd outside a hotel next to the Convention site surging against the National Guard barbed-wire Jeep barriers and chanting "THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING! THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!" Fucking awesome. The news reports of those street battles did it for me, right then and there. Within a month, my Movement friends and I had all bought guns and ammunition. I figured the Revolution was definately a green light. We were pretty naive and immature, I guess, but I had never, ever seen anything like that on the news in the U.S. in my whole life. We hated the Vietnam War worse than poison. Young people all over the country started joining radical groups--Students for a Democratic Society (SDS,) Black Panthers, Socialist Workers Party (SWP--they're Trotskists), Industrial Workers of the World (IWW--back then they were mostly anarchists and anarcho-syndicalists,) Young People's Socialist League (YPSL--the Communist Party USA youth group), Revolutionary Youth Movement I (Progressive Labor---Stalinists) and RYM II (the Weathermen--mostly Maoists) and so on. I figured within two or three years, maximum, the Government would be fighting a guerrilla war against the student-led radical, anti-war "Movement." It's amazing to me that I find myself on the opposite side of the fence this time around, along with about half of the "Sixties generation." It's going to be an interesting election. I predict that extremists on both sides will dominate the news and the country will be even more polarized than last time (2000.) As the country becomes more and more polarized, and open conflict becomes more and more likely, I predict ultra-conservatives will stockpile and fortify quietly, unlike in the '90s, when they made the mistake of talking too openly to the liberal media. I don't think they'll ever do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLIK$ Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Just vote, your protests and words mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 Watch CSPAN if you're interested in seeing the marches. No TV? CSPAN.org has a life feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 thanks poop.. im watching now.. those coffins are crazy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 Yeah. I flipped over to Fox News real fast to see what they were covering, and I was surprised to see the coffins on the air for a good 15 seconds. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/fatdave/12oz/coffins.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Watching this now, pretty crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 From NYTimes. http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide1.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide2.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide3.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide4.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide5.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide6.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide7.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide8.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KING BLING Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=actio...=petition_flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Rosie Perez's nipples, mmmmm..... I caught the end of it, now CSPAN is showing the coveted exclusive of the American Isreali's Republican Convention Welcome Conference. Riveting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040829/capt.sge.ezj84.290804181842.photo03.default-380x247.jpg'> i:m not trying to be unsympathetic towards those who have lost their lives in iraq, afghanistan, or anywhere else the united states has ever fought a war...but the fact of the matter is that these soldiers enlisted in an occupation that could potentially put them in harms way. they signed up knowing there was a shot that they:d have to go to war. i think it:s fair for parents to be worried/troubled by their children having to go to war for a cause they may not agree with...but i think it:s unfair for them to say that bush killed their children. what did they want? the free college education for dressing up in fatigues and 'playing army?' i respect and appreciate every single soldier that has fought for my country, and i:m willing to bet that they:d probably whoop their parents asses for walking in protest blaming their death on their boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 ...but i think it:s unfair for them to say that bush killed their children. The war was Bush's choice. It was not a war of necessity. It was a war of choice. Therefore, her son's death can be traced back to Bush's decision. ...but the fact of the matter is that these soldiers enlisted in an occupation that could potentially put them in harms way. they signed up knowing there was a shot that they:d have to go to war. They also enlisted assuming that the commander in chief would not send them into harm's way without being honest about the WMDs that don't exist and the imminent threat that Iraq didn't pose. i:m willing to bet that they:d probably whoop their parents asses for walking in protest blaming their death on their boss. I'm willing to bet you're wrong. I'm willing to bet that if the nation had not been conned into a war based on untruths, you may be right. But the fact is that the nation was sold untruths from the administration, and soldiers have died as a result of these untruths. I'm willing to bet they'd whoop Bush's ass instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 29, 2004 Author Share Posted August 29, 2004 http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040829/capt.nydd10808292145.cvn_protests_nydd108.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 If Kerry wins: republicans bitch and moan for the next 4 years, then blame any problems in the next 20 years on him. If Bush wins: protests and pandemonium, extended US hate, etc. Let's hope America makes the right choice and votes for Kerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 When will people learn......PEACEFUL PROTESTS DON'T WORK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtab|e Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Originally posted by Glik0 Just vote, your protests and words mean nothing. Nah, the protests are a useful propaganda tool to get others to vote against Bush. The more the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamblersGrin Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/...06133/index.php lots of pics of the protests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 http://home.comcast.net/~jim-candlin/coffins2.jpg'> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040829/capt.nygb10308291814.cvn_protests_nygb103.jpg'> http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040829/i/r1306207221.jpg'> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040829/capt.nydp10208291800.cvn_protests_nydp102.jpg'> http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2004-08/14031684.jpg'> http://tinyurl.com/65yea'> http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51236074.jpg'> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040827/capt.nyff10408270032.dnc2rnc_march_nyff104.jpg'> http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~aaron/images/photos/couldlie.jpg'> http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/29/nyregion/29cnd-protest.slide10.jpg'> http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040829/capt.nygb10208291751.cvn_protests_nygb102.jpg'> http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040829/i/r529687159.jpg'> http://www.whistlestopper.com/rnc04/RNCp10.JPG'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 If I lived in NYC, I'd have hit the Billionaires for Bush event in my suavest couture. It's only going to get crazier from here, I have a feeling there's going to be some craziness outside madison square garden during Bush's acceptance speech. After all, the whole world is watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by freeze i:m not trying to be unsympathetic towards those who have lost their lives in iraq, afghanistan, or anywhere else the united states has ever fought a war...but the fact of the matter is that these soldiers enlisted in an occupation that could potentially put them in harms way. they signed up knowing there was a shot that they:d have to go to war. i think it:s fair for parents to be worried/troubled by their children having to go to war for a cause they may not agree with...but i think it:s unfair for them to say that bush killed their children. what did they want? the free college education for dressing up in fatigues and 'playing army?' i respect and appreciate every single soldier that has fought for my country, and i:m willing to bet that they:d probably whoop their parents asses for walking in protest blaming their death on their boss. DUDE, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN COP. EVERYBODY ON HERE KNOWS IT AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR RETARDED OPINION. GO FUCK YOURSELF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by SF1 DUDE, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN COP. EVERYBODY ON HERE KNOWS IT AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR RETARDED OPINION. GO FUCK YOURSELF. i:m a cop just like you paint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETO Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by freeze i:m not trying to be unsympathetic towards those who have lost their lives in iraq, afghanistan, or anywhere else the united states has ever fought a war...but the fact of the matter is that these soldiers enlisted in an occupation that could potentially put them in harms way. they signed up knowing there was a shot that they:d have to go to war. i think it:s fair for parents to be worried/troubled by their children having to go to war for a cause they may not agree with...but i think it:s unfair for them to say that bush killed their children. what did they want? the free college education for dressing up in fatigues and 'playing army?' i respect and appreciate every single soldier that has fought for my country, and i:m willing to bet that they:d probably whoop their parents asses for walking in protest blaming their death on their boss. AMEN.</span> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 freeze Why did you respond to him so quickly, but neglect to respond to me? And, DETO - if you believe freeze is right, respond to my comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeze Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 pmb, i didn:t respond to you because pretty much this has become a tired argument...nothing i say will change your mind and nothing you say will change mine. i stated my opinion and you stated yours. you don:t agree with me and i don:t agree with you, just wanted to leave it at that. i responded to sf1 or whatever because for whatever reason, his childish reference to me being a cop just because he doesn:t agree with me pissed me off at the moment. no hard feelings, i just don:t have the energy to engage in an argument that will get neither of us anywhere with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted August 30, 2004 Author Share Posted August 30, 2004 I didn't ask you to change my mind. I asked you to respond to the points I brought up. And how is this a tired argument? I don't think I've ever previously replied to anything you've posted on here. And are you incapable of a discussion on a certain topic if you and another person disagree? That's in effect what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Originally posted by freeze pmb, i didn:t respond to you because pretty much this has become a tired argument...nothing i say will change your mind and nothing you say will change mine. i stated my opinion and you stated yours. you don:t agree with me and i don:t agree with you, just wanted to leave it at that. i responded to sf1 or whatever because for whatever reason, his childish reference to me being a cop just because he doesn:t agree with me pissed me off at the moment. no hard feelings, i just don:t have the energy to engage in an argument that will get neither of us anywhere with the other. don't you know that it is pointless to argue with people who have over 3-4 thousand posts on here? :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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