swedish erotica Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Swedish what's up with your bike, and why is it no shop in the Bay area carries Ridley? They look nice enough. Anyone know where I can get a spring for the rear derailer's barrel adjuster? I ended up having to fabricate a new derailer hanger because Trek kept sending my LBS the wrong part, then when I went to reinstall the derailer, the spring shot out behind the dryer. I dunno what I was thinking but I'm getting tired of riding the concept all the time and I want my road bike in one piece. custom paint job. i might pick it up this weekend. i'll post flicks. its fye. ours were the first team bikes shipped out after Unibet got theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HESHIANDET Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 i forgot about that schwinn, in reality they are both kinda whatever, just better tahn the entry level fixed garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hesh... in the gym I'm on partial squats, leg press, calf raises, leg curls, dead lift, many sit-ups and some upper body stuff but easy on the weights on the upper body. Plenty of stretching as well. On the bike it really depends on the day according to my training program. Going through Wenzel Coaching again this year since they really helped me progress last time I worked with them. You starting to get into it serious style again? Swedish... at that level I'm sure you could come around by April or May and be doing fine. I would suffer like a dog but you'll do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HESHIANDET Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 every spring dog, every spring. haha. bt july id rather eat bbq and party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 you said it is behind the washer, yes? go fetch that ish, dust bunnies or no. I've got every single piece of sport equipment I've ever owned since I was six back behind there. Hockey, soccer, football, basket ball, tennis, super soakers, all that shit. The dust bunnies are the least of my problems. I'm dedicating my entire morning tomorrow to that stupid fucking spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 After visiting SF for the first time in a while I've come to realize that custom bike building is on another level in the city. Where elsewhere in the bay you've got kids putting bullhorns on a Rush Hour and being 'hella radical', in the city every single kid's got a bullhorn handlebar somewhere in their bike repituar, and whether they use it is a matter of personal discretion. If you want to be different, it'll take Vanilla or something imported from France because all that Official NJS and other gear that's so sought after is entirely too accessible and on clearance in bulk. You can get an idea in your head of what kind of dream bike you'd like to build and source all the parts in stock from bike shops in walking distance from one another, down to gold plated chain ring nuts. If you talk to SF shop owners of such stores as Freewheel, you learn they're still in awe and confused by orgins of such trends as people building NJS Keirin bikes to ride around the city with. We're talking about a fixie scene population in the thousands, all needing a little bike pornography in their life. That's not to say fixed gears are the end all of strange bike consumerism. Another popular trend is weekend warriors out to buy bikes with geometry specs suited for climbing hills in Marin County, Giant TCR's are a popular one along with fully carbon LOOK frames with short geometry and a long top tube supposedly making for perfect climbing conditions, or Santa Cruz bikes specifically to be used for downhilling. 1) Vanilla is hands down the most beautiful bikes I've ever seen but with a 22 month wait and like 2g's minimun to drop on them... Jesus. Not my budget. 2) French imported bikes have funny exclusive French only threading that no one else uses a lot of the time when they're vintage, don't they? 3) Is it just me or does everyone in SF have Deep V's? I'm sure others would agree that they're fucking excessive when really you don't need that strength in a rim unless you're pushing 230 pounds and love hopping curbs, they're heavy as fuck and in my mind, almost purely for aesthetics, make your bike look like instant crack rock gift certificates to homeless people, etc. I'd rather go with some Fusions or Aeroheads if Velocity, or some Mavics. But who am I to talk, I like the color schemes of matching your rims to the rest of your bike (GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!), but if it's going to come at way extra weight and zero real practicality, give me something else... Then again, the nice thing about bikes is everything is so cheap in comparison to cars that if you want something, you can fund it with a minimum wage job and some decent hours realistically, as opposed to your car where a few upgrades are going to break the bank. 4) I think NJS approved shit is probably seen as the height of track bike / equipment hierarchy, with obscure Italian frames and Campy shit coming in a close second. Oh well, you know it's going to be quality atleast. With that said I don't think it's fully a trend everyone is into in Portland like it is in the Bay. Fuck it, I'd rather run an NJS Bridgestone then a KHS or Soma Rush or a Pake, especially when I just picked that exact frame (the Bridgestone) for even cheaper than it would cost for a Pake frame, fork and headset. So yeah, fuck buying some new generic 4130 CrMo shit when I could get something superior for cheaper! I will build up my machine of fun and ride it with more soul and passion than Rick James off a cocaine high. So the moral of the story is keep the pretension at home, ride like you mean it and leave the cars for the suburbanites because living in the city and being able to get anywhere on a bike in 20 minutes minus car insurance and gas money is the real way to go. PS Hesh will for sure puke at my post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I'm just,in a very run-on sort of way, saying that bike owner behavior is only that way in San Francisco and nowhere else in the bay. Anywhere else a guy riding a track bike is something rare like seeing a lamborghini, but san francisco there are more track bikes than there are bikes in berkley, the bikes all have phil wood hubs, unwrapped clean nitto drop track bars, as much chrome and gold as possible. Then on top of that are the slew of rat bikes, tandems, cruisers, all sorts of creation that people elsewhere really couldn't even imagine why they'd spend money to build such things. As I said the bike of choice in the east bay are high-end touring steel frames. This being you can buy a good one used for cheap, and bay area roads aren't flat and succumb to quakes and potholes like a motherfucker. Hey dELiSs, there's a shop in berkley you should seek employment at. Half their shit is stolen bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 So you tryna flip me some Sugino 75 NJS cranks if they come so cheap in SF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 no one understands old fashioned precision craftsmanship anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HESHIANDET Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 dude, i think we just need an island for us and our friends. no one else is invited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 So you tryna flip me some Sugino 75 NJS cranks if they come so cheap in SF? Haha, freewheel sells em for 150 but are sold out of 165's and black. Is sugino the only crank NJS aproved? What are your options? Oh and I ended up buying a whole new barrel adjuster for $3. Problem solved. Century tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahleediddy Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 i just ruined a sugino 75 crank arm. not excited about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Sugino cranks? Guys... seriously, if you're building up a track bike and want to make it nice then Sugino 75's are not the way to go. That would be like building up a muscle car using an engine from Walmart. If you want durability and quality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 different strokes for different folks. i think it is clear that there are at least two schools of 'strokes' currently butting heads in this thread. there are the competitive racer guys who have been in that game for a long minute and then there are the kids on the come up who are riding nice track/SS/whatever bikes rather than riding PT or driving their car. as far as i can tell the competitive heads, which also happen to be mods, are into high class precision italian gear, whereas the younguns (not necessarily referring to DOB here) are more interested in the 'obscure' stuff that hasnt been the obvious choice on high end bikes like campagnolo has. i say 'obscure' because those brands which would have been obscure before track bikes blew up are now saturating that scene. precision is also an interesting choice or words. again i defer to my pops, and to a dichotomy he has noted a few times. is a machine built precision specialized tarmac any better or worse than a handbuilt colnago, or what-have-you, which may or may not be as precision but has been touched by the passion of the human hand? of course it comes back to what you personally are looking for. it the end they both perform the same function, you turn the pedals and the bike goes. it is what else the bike does that makes you (ok i wont insist that it makes you, it makes me...) decide which one i want. so what do i want? i just grabbed that trek because the gear hanging on it alone is worth many times the $32.50 i paid for it. it was a steal, i couldnt pass it up. now i have a decked out touring bike that will prolly be used throughout the summer to haul booze to the nearest bike path/forest preserve. it isnt going to be the bike i ride in the city, it isnt going to be my commuter. i came into the three schwinn cruisers i have the same way. they are nice to take out in shitty weather because of the full fenders. otherwise i ride either the bianchi or the converted. the only bike i have gone out of my way to get and have bought new is my bianchi pista. it isnt an NJS frame so i am not going to pay to put NJS stuff on it. to me an overly decked out pista is like a guy who customizes his moms four door accord. why not put all the money you spent on all the tacky little ill fitting upgrades into a nicer car. the same goes for bikes. i upgraded the drivetrain to 1/8 inch and got the miche crankset to match the italian 'heritage' of bianchi, and the cinelli stem was another one of those cant pass up bargains. upgrading that bike will probably stop there. if i ever come upon an NJS frame, then i will worry about fitting it with all NJS stuff. i am into riding bicycles, and fixing bicycles, and talking about bicycles. bicycles are less expensive than cars and more fun anyway. it is easy to run into deals, especially considering where i live. i trip over old chicago schwinns everywhere i go. it is easy to justify why i need to get xyz to myself, why i need to spend more money on this bike or grab another bike altogether. many of you all race, and that is rad, but that is not what i am into. that is a whole other animal as far as i am concerned, an animal that i am not willing to immerse myself in this late in my life (i am 24). i will continue to be into bicycles long after the flow of track bikes ebbs. my kid(s) will hopefully be as excited to grow up enough to ride my bikes as i was to grow up to ride my dads. blah blah blah, getting sappy. take it for what its worth. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Haha, freewheel sells em for 150 but are sold out of 165's and black. Is sugino the only crank NJS aproved? What are your options? Oh and I ended up buying a whole new barrel adjuster for $3. Problem solved. Century tomorrow. Dura Ace is also NJS but not trying to go that route, it's more spendy than I want to go. I've got my eye on the 75's because I've heard some good things about them in comparison to similar priced cranks (Miche, Stronglights) and I'm not trying to break the bank on some Campy Records (sorry Joker, we all know Campy is the height of bicycle precision and craftmanship but fuck, it's so damned spendy). 170 is the length I'm going for in silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 posted these before but here they are again. the armada (most of it) ~1965 collegiate ~1965 racer 1977 collegiate 1972 varsity 1977 twinn 1982 peugeot (model unknown, any help?) 1985 720 1969 paramount 2005 pista peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 That paramount would sell for a pretty penny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Just so you know, im not into competitive cycling. I just hate on everyone except my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Butting heads? I'm not into butting heads with anyone over an opinion. I just found it kind of weird that people find quality in Sugino... that's all. And unless you are indeed racing on the track, why would you need anything that is approved by the Japanese Bicycling Association?... sorry, NJS. Just because the part or frame & fork is NJS approved doesn't mean it's the highest quality you can get. It just means it meets their standards. Different strokes for different folks... as long as you ride. I think my problem with all this is understanding the reasoning for the decisions some of you are making in regards to quality / hype. Beyond that, yeah... I'm a racer with deep roots in all kinds of cycling so I'm indeed going to have an opinion. However, I'll try to keep my fingers from saying much more and just scroll past the posts that I don't agree with. KOH... I need some KOH art for me casa. What you have for sale? Email an old guy once in a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Joker, I'm really not arguing that Sugino could be better than Campy. I'm just saying in the price range I'm looking at, it's a better crank than Miche Primatos and Stronglight's track crank, for whatever that's worth. Believe it or not, people seem to be happy with it. As far as NJS, things that are approved must meet similar standards in quality, so if something meets the NJS standard you know there's a certain bar of worksmanship that has to make in order to get that certification. You're really not going to find any low quality parts as far as that goes, but you will run into some parts that, if you're planning to ride on the streets, are not really ideal (unsealed bottom brackets, unsealed hubs, unsealed whatever, less than ideal saddles, tires that don't meet your needs, etc.) and there are better options out there (Phil Wood, Formula, Continental, etc.) for whatever pricing range you're looking at. I'm not trying to build up a NJS approved machine because I know I'm not going to race track in Japan, but I would like to keep atleast a bit of a Japanese motif in my bike just like someone with a Cinelli probably would like to keep an Italian motif going, or someone with vintage Chicago taste would like to keep a Schwinn motif. Call it what you want, it's just the way of the world I guess. I'd love to build up a vintage De Rosa with Campy C-Record gruppo but it's not happening for me. P.S. Picture of my new frame waiting to be built up (with a scant differences because I didn't take this picture, but found a frame that looks pretty much same as mine...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Im in the middle of a series right now man. I'll email some pics when I get some headway. NJS stuff is cool. Theres nothing wrong with it, but Joker is right, it's not the highest quality out there. The "everything must meet NJS standards" rule was set to keep the playing feild even. So some one couldnt come with some amazing new technology and fuck everyone up. All the bikes have to be as equal as possible. It's not a standard of superior excelence, its just a parameter to stay within. Having a completly NJS keirin bike is cool, just on't flaunt it like it makes you the man or in the know or higher than someone else. I love me some Keirin shit, but a nice vintage Pogliaghi will fuck your NJS right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 You're exactly right KOH. Obviously it needs to surpass a certain level of quality but not go too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HESHIANDET Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 wack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger King Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 sweet skid flick not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 i disapprove of the nut to stem action... sit down skids are where its at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 i am not getting salty. just typing whilst thinking. maybe more rubbing elbows than butting heads. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 in other news, running into all kinds of problems with the stem on that trek. too tall stem + too wide bars shoved into said stem + no room to break the quill loose = no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HESHIANDET Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 torch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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