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Originally posted by my sweetheart, the drunk:

do you honestly believe the taliban is showing the people of afghanistan the thousands of grieving people in new york city, still looking for their fathers, mothers, childrens, boyfriends, gilfriends, etc? or maybe the piles of innocent carnage? yeah RIGHT!

 

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do you honestly believe the people there have up to date sanitation and food, much less a fuckin tv to watch these images? im tired of this argument, but i thought id make that point.

 

read bugs post.peace.

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Originally posted by my sweetheart, the drunk:

i always thought you were an idiot and now i am sure of it...i guess it also took a tragedy to have you reply to threads on this board with something other than ripped off quotes from 'fat chicks in party hats'...intellegent.

 

 

oh fuck you. you dont know anything about me.

 

 

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Originally posted by bug:

god, i wanna puke every time i see people toting their american flags. blind sheep.

 

exactly.

 

 

 

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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people? i am honestly scared of my generation being handed the responsibilities of our nation..which HAS been a benchmark for other nations to go by...if we were so fucked in the eyes of the third world like some of you claim we are, why are they still knocking on our door?most of you have grown up here, lived here, and thrived here but you know ALL about what the third world feels, amazing. fuck you and goodnight. please close this thread, time to move elsewhere.

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Originally posted by my sweetheart, the drunk:

what the fuck is wrong with some of you people? i am honestly scared of my generation being handed the responsibilities of our nation..which HAS been a benchmark for other nations to go by...if we were so fucked in the eyes of the third world like some of you claim we are, why are they still knocking on our door?most of you have grown up here, lived here, and thrived here but you know ALL about what the third world feels, amazing. fuck you and goodnight. please close this thread, time to move elsewhere.

 

elsewhere..like the jim jones kool-aid thread.. -embrace your inherent american evilness. don't fight it, go with it....

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First off Makros. Why are you in such a hurry to get rid off people being patriotic and nice to people. Perhaps this patriotic feeling and the idea that people being nice for whatever reason stays and becomes genuine, that would not be a good thing? Perhaps you might be part of the problem as far as the "false unity crap" it seems that you don't want to be part of the unity yet you get mad when people don't want to connect with you.

Second off to the person that made the comment about people waving around US flags being blind sheep. It is about supporting YOUR country, to all those innocent people that lost there lives from business people, to firefighter's, to the police that risked their lives trying to save others. It's about showing your respect to those that have fought and died for this country. They fought for the right for you to speak out against them.

I dont know I'm kinda tired right now so I hope people can understand what I was trying to say.

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Originally posted by Pistol:

First off Makros. Why are you in such a hurry to get rid off people being patriotic and nice to people. Perhaps this patriotic feeling and the idea that people being nice for whatever reason stays and becomes genuine, that would not be a good thing? Perhaps you might be part of the problem as far as the "false unity crap" it seems that you don't want to be part of the unity yet you get mad when people don't want to connect with you.

Second off to the person that made the comment about people waving around US flags being blind sheep. It is about supporting YOUR country, to all those innocent people that lost there lives from business people, to firefighter's, to the police that risked their lives trying to save others. It's about showing your respect to those that have fought and died for this country. They fought for the right for you to speak out against them.

I dont know I'm kinda tired right now so I hope people can understand what I was trying to say.

 

you know the usa shows the least pride in their country? and now..woo!! tons of it. listen...i know what you are saying..i thought of the aftermath of all this. if we become a huge friendly nation for years and years later...thats great. i can then regret how i feel now (but you cant blame me for feeling this way). but lets be realistic...this isnt gonna stick with us. there is now fucking way. like gangs are gonna say...hey...forget this crime stuff...lets plant trees. im sorry to say this...but a unified america is not a real america when it comes down to individual citizens.

 

as for the blind sheep thing...i believe he meant it as how american flags are like a trend now. you arent cool unless you have one. and im sure a lot of people dont even know why they are so patriotic making them blind. i love america but dislike its govt. (and that statement is valueless because i do not know what its like to live elsewhere.)

 

i just want this to be over with. get back to the way things were.

 

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[This message has been edited by Kr430n5_666 (edited 09-18-2001).]

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Originally posted by Smart:

no matter what you feel about the government or the army or capitalism or whatever, there's no way to deny that America is the greatest country on earth, head and shoulders above the rest, the benchmark that others try to achieve, does this knowledge make me blind? or a sheep?

 

 

 

 

Yes. Yes it does. You are proud that america has achieved such a high economic status out the misfortunes, deaths and poverty of others.

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Originally posted by Seym1has2no3fiends:

Yes. Yes it does. You are proud that america has achieved such a high economic status out the misfortunes, deaths and poverty of others.

 

oh please, you kids really need to stop trying to condense my thoughts into phrases that support your twisted little worldviews.

 

My greatgrandmother was a full blooded Oglala Sioux, so I have my own share of moral indignation about how this country has opperated in the past. Now, however, that moral indignation is pointed at all of you who would lump me into these categories of your own design. FUCK YOU! Fuck you for even suggesting that I celebrate the misfortunes poverty and deaths of others. Fuck you for even thinking I would wish bad things on others... you little monsters are just as bigoted as the racists.

 

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did everyone fail to read bug's first post? i think it points out in there why he thinks we are blind sheep, and how we are being manipulated by the bad guys into making things worse.

 

we were the first to witness a president express the commitment toward retaliation in church during friday's memorial service for the victims. some of you people sound very high and mighty as well. it's very hard to say what flying the flag means to people, and why its being flown. from what i see, i think it's just like the yellow ribbon thing during the persian gulf, you know, showing support for the troops and the victims of all this. also putting on the game face, and showing that we're bearing the torch of freedom. last week i was annoyed to hear the national anthem in church, but maybe it was because it's just unusual, i don't know. i said as much on here, and no one jumped down my throat about that. hmmm.

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christ...they're supporting their nation in a time of grief

the flag is a symbol

the people with flags take pride in their country and supporting it..

who gives a fuck about the government bla bla bla you wont be able to change that...shit'll get fucked up after time.

i wish i had a fat flag to put out in front of my house

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Originally posted by Ferris Bueller:

christ...they're supporting their nation in a time of grief

the flag is a symbol

the people with flags take pride in their country and supporting it..

who gives a fuck about the government bla bla bla you wont be able to change that...shit'll get fucked up after time.

i wish i had a fat flag to put out in front of my house

 

word! lets put aside our fake, radical, socio-polotical facades for a few minutes and honor those who died last tuesday...i watched this shit happen a matter of miles from my house...and i am more than happy to fly my flag. sheep? fuck you, you are the sheep of this fucked up, "question everything" generation. no respect.

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i dont see anything wrong with people showing "pride in america" now or whatever- its actually kinda good considering how split our country has been recently-

 

im all about...getting rid of terrorism..whatever out military feels must be done to do this...i support- even if more innocent people die..but hey...it will only make the future for whoever is aroudn then..be better <or atleast i think so>

 

oh yeah and this as a side note- i didnt catch what University this was...but there is a class that titled "how to hate america" being taught by what the caller <a student in the class> said an activist for terrorism- immediately after saying that- the lady hosting the show told her to hang on and she would give her information on how to get intouch with the FBI immediately so they could go check out the situation-

 

im kinda upset that an american university would actually allow a class called how to hate americans- ...pretty bad.

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when I hears words like rocky and bombing, I think to myself the movie: Rock 5 with the bombing in the backround. I saw it recently and felt inspired to see bombers like Ja on the walls.

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when i have time to read it all i will reply again. for now i leave you with this. open your eyes and look past all the bullshit you hear. fuck america. wake up call. we may not have desirved it that way but we did deserve it.

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Guest Remy Martin

Peace be upon the earth.

yeah right.....hahahhahahahahahaha

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Guest HESHIANDET
open your eyes and look past all the bullshit you hear. fuck america.
so than 6000 dead people in ny is a lie? don't ever let me find you alone. bullie dat.

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Bye, Bye 12oz

 

Originally posted by Smart

 

oh please, you kids really need to stop trying to condense my thoughts into phrases that support your twisted little worldviews.

 

My greatgrandmother was a full blooded Oglala Sioux, so I have my own share of moral indignation about how this country has opperated in the past. Now, however, that moral indignation is pointed at all of you who would lump me into these categories of your own design. FUCK YOU! Fuck you for even suggesting that I celebrate the misfortunes poverty and deaths of others. Fuck you for even thinking I would wish bad things on others... you little monsters are just as bigoted as the racists.

 

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2 Can Sam

 

I'm no better than the racists because I am opposed to racism against muslims and arabs? Good point, genius. This is why I hope graffiti just dies. Then, maybe you all can focus more on violence, violence, violence. So, keep painting your pretty pictures and waving your silky flags. Talk your shit about "sand niggers" and "rag heads" like America actually represents freedom when road blocks are popping up everywhere and arabs who aren't even muslims are being killed in our own streets. Just remember that no matter how many men, women and children in Iraq, Iran, or Afganistan we kill, the terrorist will grow angrier and angrier. The terrorists are rich. it's the bottom line. They are the ones with money in their countries. They will most likely have protection. The citizens they are murdering will NOT. But hey, people with screen names like "Smart" should probably know this, right? So kill your trophy "rag heads", feel good for awhile and then die of anthrax because you killed the wrong people. Awesome. I don't care either way, I'm a suicidal socialist. Sorry to intelligent people like Bug who actually enjoy seeking their own truth. I call for a mass suicide of all who oppose the blindness of america. Fuck 12 oz. With people like smart and hesh as mods, I'm out like leather pants with crotch patches.

 

fuck you.

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If even half the people that are being so 'patriotic' and have nice flags on their car, took the damn time to register to vote and took an intrest in THEIR governments policies, some of this shit we are in may not have happened. Waving a flag is cop out, people think if they wave a flag and are 'supportive', they are doing their part. Put down your damn flags and go out there and make your country a better place to live, go feed some homeless people, or plant some trees.

Someone mentioned earlier about feeling sorry for this generation as being the next leaders, i agree.. can u imagine some snot nosed, zit face, american teenager, who's grown up watching MTV and working in a movie thearter, going up against one of these war hardened afgahns, who could probably slit your throat in your sleep?

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Guest imported_El Mamerro

Bleh.

 

There's two sides to be on this shit. One of the sides will accuse the other by telling them to go live elsewhere and see how much doper America is, the other side will accuse the first for being blind sheep who only listen to good ol' brainwashing CNN. I think both stances have a fair share of ignorance and raw stupidity, but the way things are, seems like we're being forced to pick one.

 

All I can say is that at times like this, I wish that movie "Swordfish" was a true story. Beer,

 

El Mamerro

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