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Comandante Fidel Castro, a film by Oliver Stone.

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Guest imported_Tesseract

I just watched this some hours ago.

Its a 100 minute documentary where Oliver Stone interviews Fidel Castro, as the second tours stone all over Havana, Cuba.

The final cut is from a 30 hour material where Castro never said 'cut' once (as written in the beginning of the film.

 

I dont even wanna express my personal opinion at this moment, i have memorized some lines to quote though, and a critical question will follow.

 

-Stone: Which was the russian goverment that stopped suporting Cuba?

-Castro: The russian goverment that stopped supporting Cuba was the american goverment.

 

 

 

-Castro: Oliver, where you decorated in vietnam?

-Stone: Yes

-Castro: where you injured?

-Stone: Yes, twice

-Castro: And still, taking my interview requires the same courage...

 

Now, i know that most americans have a very certain way of viewing Castro and Communism but this movie is really an eye-opener.

 

I was wondering if that film will be played in the states. If it is, go see it!

If it aint, start questinioning your kind of democracy.

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Guest imported_Tesseract

Bump!

 

so i've read that HBO was to play this but never did...not even a question of hitting the theaters there

 

:tongue:

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Guest imported_El Mamerro

When I first heard about this movie, my first thought was "I MUST watch this, it will be fucking awesome".

 

My second thought was "It's Ollie Stone, so I'll probably need to wear my skeptic goggles".

 

And now, after reading a bunch of reviews, it seems I might have to use a skeptic biosuit. Apparently it's amazing, and eye-opening indeed, but it smacks of subjectivity and sympathy, and the real tough questions are avoided. I'm still gonna watch it given the chance, and take it more as a personal character study than a political one, because that's what interests me the most... Castro as an actual person, rather than the bigger-than-life political figure he is.

 

Good looking out... I'm also anxious to see "Persona Non Grata".

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I dont think that someone like you and me could ever get rid of the skeptic goggles, leave alone the skeptic biosuit....thats a duty we all have towards everything, movie reviews included.

 

The questions cover everything, some are nayve, some are harsh, some are stupid..however Castro is like a river stream, he talks and talks and talks (like he always did) with clarity and charm making the question less and less important. I'm telling you this, the man really exposes him self as a person and as a pollitician and it takes balls to do that.

 

I'll finish this with an Oliver Stone quote from a bbc interview that rings truth to me.

 

"Castro is a real person, in flesh and bones...i personally believe that Bush is an artificial figure who can never look in your eyes and would never find the guts to expose himself infront of a camera for 30 hours"

 

I hope you'll get to see it, will it be played there?

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Guest BROWNer

haha, mamerro, that's what i was thinking too.

i'm not a huge stone fan, but i dig the dude's willingness

to whatever.. ....tackle things close to his heart for the world to see..

i heard about this and will watch it asap.

the quote about bush from stone..is unbelievably on

point. that pmb posted wedding video..i saw that and i

thought, gee, he looks comfortable and stuff, BUT..

dude reeks of smug privilege. there is a reason he

is the first pres to give(not) such a puny amount of

press sessions. out of touch. cue hall and oates biatch.

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Guest BROWNer

btw, fidel is looking mighty dapper in that poster shot.

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imitation pleather castro jackets will be selling for lots of dollars on the trendy avenues where there's lots of trucker hats, art students, and out of town graffiti.

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mighty dapper, indeed dude has the eye in the film..you'll see what i mean.

 

Anyway, to be perfectly honest i dont like Stone either, most of his films bug me in one way or another..still, i recognise the same things you mention in him. My hat is off to Castro for doing this...its his willingless that is to reward in this case.

 

Nomatter how you view Castro, this film is essential to built a better case.

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Originally posted by Tesseract

"Castro is a real person, in flesh and bones...i personally believe that Bush is an artificial figure who can never look in your eyes and would never find the guts to expose himself infront of a camera for 30 hours"

 

correct you are, mr. stone

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sounds really interesting. will make big effort to watch.

 

is it just me or has the intellect level of Channel Zero shot up by like 62.731% (according to my calculations) in the past three days?

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i'm no fan of oliver stone.

i think he's really egotistical

i think his movies are ham handed

he seems to use hyperbole far too often to express a viewpoint

and his paranoia/conspiracy theories are tired.

 

having said all that

i'm not surprised i haven't heard a thing about this movie.

i don't think ollie's got many fans.

 

i'd be interested to hear what that ever-talking dictator has to say though..

that guy is gonna die eventually.

i wonder what his plan is.

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Originally posted by BASF

is it just me or has the intellect level of Channel Zero shot up by like 62.731% (according to my calculations) in the past three days?

 

team nerd takeover 2004

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Originally posted by !@#$%

 

i'd be interested to hear what that ever-talking dictator has to say though..

that guy is gonna die eventually.

i wonder what his plan is.

 

ouch....hear the man and you might not even call him a dictator when you see his plan for the future....Castro dying is like the last of the mohicans...

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one man runs Cuba, unchallenged.

he's a dictator.

 

[not all dictators have been horrible men.]

 

i'm sure he has many plans

but it will be interesting to see how many are realized.

 

after all, he and che had a lot of plans for cuba

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Guest TEARZ

i am the boy in the skeptic bubble.

i've been up on this (thanks nation) but haven't seen it yet.

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You know what, i'm editing this...its not that i dont wanna discuss that stuff but i'd prefer to do that when everyone has seen that.

 

give it a bump,

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i read a good nation article a few weeks ago.

i wanna say it was by henry miller

on fidel castro and cuba.

 

yes, a lot of plans were achieved, citing literacy rates and health care.

but a lot of things are still fucked up.

of course, one could blame a lot of that on the embargo if they wanted.

...cuba is not exactly the utopia they envisioned.

again, i'm in over my head here, i know there is a lot about cuba i don't know.

but people risking their lives to get away from cuba have an opinion on the man too.

 

o.stone is just in love with controversy.

i'm sure he wouldv'e gotten idi amin if he could've

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Fuck!

I was afraid you were replying at the same time i was editing...anyway, i agree...its not Utopia...its juss makes you wonder what would Cuba be like without so much opossition...the blockade seems like the N01 poverty reason...If not anything else, Cuba has been the only surviving different system worth talking about.

 

I plan to visit soon...oh the tales

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