SleepAnDream Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 thoughts/comments? it seemed like bush made some decent points and was "sincere" i guess (if thats possible), but how can you ever tell? he comes off as a fucking idiot 99% of the time but the democrats rebuttle seemed reeeeally weak. i think ill take up my right as a US citizen for the first time and vote this upcoming election and vote...id like to alot more informed though...where better to learn than a graffiti forum yknow? hook a brother up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREANKAY Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I think queer eye for the straight guy was on at the same time......I wonder witch got more veiwers...?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by SleepAnDream i think ill take up my right as a US citizen for the first time and vote this upcoming election and vote...id like to alot more informed though...where better to learn than a graffiti forum yknow? hook a brother up... I cant undestand how people could vote for bush, its not even a conservative/liberal question anymore. Bush has undoubtedly fucked up on everything he touched, thats all you need to concider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoga Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 was it only broadcasted in the united states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 NO STEROIDS IN 04!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Doing my best to spread this picture far and wide: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/chimpgonewild.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 HAHAHA..... copy.......and sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gat Bush Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 bush is a robot puppet for big buisness. the whole war on iraq was totally unfounded. did US forces find weapons of mass destruction? NO. if he gets reelected i can say with certainty that we are fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 i didn't watch. but as me and my friend were flipping through the stations we got a glimpse of Bush's face, smiling wickedly. He looks like satan. did he say anything about the gay marriage topic? my sister wants to get married, dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob Doing my best to spread this picture far and wide: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/chimpgonewild.jpg'> The Kings ended up beating the Flames, I believe. And yeah, don’t vote for Bush. Do whatever the fuck you want, actually. Just know this, Bush is an incompetent president, and your country pretty much sucks because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sone_ARC Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 yea he brought up the gay marriage thing, basically made it clear he was willing to make an amendment to the constitution to keep fags from getting married, rock on bush. i think its funny how people dont like a pres that actually has some balls to put to work, instead of an interns mouth. hes done a pretty fuckin good job if you ask me, and for all these weapon of mass d people, fuck off if you read the K report youd se the enriched uranium plants and ICBM launchers, and biological warhead found. beside sadaams ass needed to be takin out anyway, hes killed millions, kinda like that german guy back in the 40s, what was his name? anyway even if you dont like Bush theres no way you can like one of these democratic nominees, none of them have any clue what their doing, they are just fighting to see who can loose to bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 i don't get it. why should it matter if gay people get married? Bush is the reason i'm going to register to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtime Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 i saw parts of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sone_ARC Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by CinchedWaist i don't get it. why should it matter if gay people get married? Bush is the reason i'm going to register to vote. bush is a religious person and in the bible it says a marriage is a union between a man and a woman. and if you bring up church is seperate from laws, than its a basis of morals, like just about all our other laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I think gay people should be allowed to marry, because of all the things like tax breaks and such. What they shouldn’t be able to do is have sex. Oh, and they shouldn’t be able to adopt kids, but nearly everyone is with me on that, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sone_ARC Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 yea, little jimmy has trouble figuring out why "your mom" jokes dont work on his best friend....thats a fucked situation to put a kid in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DITDxCULT Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Bush spills water, bumps microphone, says lots of words During George W Bush's 2004 State of the Union address, he not only called for a half-billion dollar increase in education spending (about one 334th the cost of the war in Iraq), but he also spilled a glass of water, hit the microphone with his binder, and said lots of other things. If you weren't keeping score, here's an official tally of the frequency of some of the words he used in the speech. America - 64 Iraq - 24 *Kill - 20 Law - 20 Terror - 20 Drug - 15 Free - 12 War - 12 Danger - 11 Marriage - 9 Enforce - 8 Prison - 8 Regime - 8 Weapon - 8 Faith - 6 Peace - 5 Character - 4 Enemies - 4 "Nucuelar" - 4 Love - 2 Thugs - 2 Football - 1 Manhunt - 1 Rostrum - 1 *=Each word includes all forms. "Kill" includes: killed, killer, killing, etc. ---------------------------------------------- Taken from http://www.newsnshit.com/favicon.ico'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sone_ARC Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 *shrugs* ^^any point?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Sone_ARC bush is a religious person and in the bible it says a marriage is a union between a man and a woman. and if you bring up church is seperate from laws, than its a basis of morals, like just about all our other laws bah. Religious person my ass. he's about as religious as a broomstick. he's just trying to gain popularity with the conservative crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Weapon X Oh, and they shouldn’t be able to adopt kids, but nearly everyone is with me on that, no? it is a difficult topic for me to come to conclusions with (just considering how the kid will take it). However, kids brought up in gay families "succeed" more than the common folk (do well in school, get good jobs, etc). The highest instances are in woman and woman relationships. I'm guessing its all the sensitivity to the kid's feelings and an abundance of moral support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sone_ARC Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 yea but theres always the other end of those situations where the child could get pissed at his mommies for everyone picking on him about it, maybe he just deals with it, maybe he snaps. i think its just fucked makin a kid deal with that, even if his or her parents treat the kid perfectly and give him anything he needs, that still doesnt stop other people, especially kids in school, from fucking with him. im not real sure on where the majority stands on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 i agree. Its a tough situation. Maybe when people become more accepting of gays the adoption situation won't be such a big deal. Until then there's alot of issues that need to be settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by CinchedWaist it is a difficult topic for me to come to conclusions with (just considering how the kid will take it). However, kids brought up in gay families "succeed" more than the common folk (do well in school, get good jobs, etc). The highest instances are in woman and woman relationships. I'm guessing its all the sensitivity to the kid's feelings and an abundance of moral support. I know a guy who was raised by his “mom and her roommate” and he is 23 years old, a high school drop out, dating an undeveloped 14 year old – making her skip school and everything. Yeah, he’s well off, but that’s because his uncle gave him his successful business. It just isn’t right. Marriage is one thing, but in order to have a kid, it just has to be male/female. I don’t see how anyone can disagree. And that whole successful kids of gay parents thing doesn’t mean anything to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 funny, i dont remeber this in the speech last nite: http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4322070.html Iraqi council endorses rollback of women's rights Pamela Constable, Washington Post BAGHDAD -- For the past four decades, Iraqi women have had some of the most modern legal protections in the Muslim world, under a civil code that prohibits marriage below age 18, arbitrary divorce and male favoritism in child custody and property inheritance disputes. Saddam Hussein's dictatorship did not touch those rights. But the U.S.-backed Iraqi Governing Council has voted to wipe them out, ordering in late December that family laws shall be "canceled" and such issues placed under the jurisdiction of Islamic legal doctrine, called sharia. This week outraged Iraqi women -- including judges and Cabinet ministers -- denounced the decision in street protests and at conferences, saying it would set back their legal status by centuries and could unleash clashes among various Islamic strains that have differing rules for marriage, divorce and other family issues. "This will send us home and shut the door, just like what happened to women in Afghanistan," said Amira Hassan Abdullah, a Kurdish lawyer. Some Islamic laws, she noted, allow men to divorce their wives on the spot. "The old law wasn't perfect, but this one would make Iraq a jungle," she said. "Iraqi women will accept it over their dead bodies." The order, narrowly approved by the 25-member council in a closed-door session Dec. 29, was made while Abdul Aziz Hakim, a conservative Shiite Muslim who heads the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, was chairing the council under a rotating leadership system. The order is being opposed by several liberal members as well as by senior women in the Iraqi government. The council's decisions must be approved by U.S. administrator Paul Bremer, and aides said unofficially that his imprimatur for this change is unlikely. But experts said that once U.S. officials turn over political power to Iraqis at the end of June, conservative forces could press ahead to make sharia the supreme law. "It was the secret way this was done that is such a shock," said Nasreen Barawi, Iraq's minister for social welfare and public service. "Iraq is a multiethnic society with many different religious schools. Such a sweeping decision should be made over time, with an opportunity for public dialogue." There is no immediate threat of the decision becoming law, she said, "but after June 30, who knows what can happen?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 GOOD! WOMEN AND FAGS BELONG IN THE SAME PLACE - AT THE BACK OF THE FUCKING LINE. SUBMIT TO YOUR SUBORDINATE STATUS, WEAKER SEX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Sayeth Shrub: "[T]he Kay Report identified dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities..." So we've gone from WMDs to WMD PROGRAMS to PLANS FOR WMD PROGRAMS to DOZENS OF WMD PROGRAM RELATED ACTIVITES? Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by Weapon X I don’t see how anyone can disagree i'm split on it, to tell you the truth. if being gay wasn't so taboo i think the kid may come out fine. On the other hand, i think the balance of man/woman in a kid's life is very important. so i just don't know :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Last year's SOTU: The United Nations concluded in 1999 that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons sufficient to produce over 25,000 liters of anthrax -- enough doses to kill several million people. He hasn't accounted for that material. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed it. The United Nations concluded that Saddam Hussein had materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin -- enough to subject millions of people to death by respiratory failure. He hadn't accounted for that material. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed it. This year's SOTU: ... dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities... Let's move those goalposts for the fourth time, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urishi Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 anybody notice how he grinned every time he looked toward the demos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Weapon X - I disagree with you. I believe that a man and a man or a woman and a woman can provide more than adequate parenting skills and successfully raise a child. What matters is the quality of the parenting abilities, not what they do in the bedroom when the door is shut. I respect your right to disagree, so I hope you respect mine. Providing one example of what happened to a guy raised by two women does not means all other situations will result in the same manner. I can list plenty of examples of fucked up children resulting from male-female parents, but that doesn't mean their inability to mesh with society is directly caused by the sexual preference of their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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