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That's okay. I like to pretend I'm a responsible adult, when in reality I'm a trainhopper masquerading as a registered nurse with a regular job and a good credit rating.

 

Left to my own devices, I'd be living in a van and making banjos for a living.

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Re: Good Photographs

 

Originally posted by KaBar2

The danger to minority kids (mostly minority boys) is GANGSTER CULTURE that glorifies violence, criminal behavior, drugs and irresponsible sexual behavior. "Gangsta rap" music has done more to destroy the black community and foster self-destructive, murderous, criminal, genocidal behavior than ANYTHING the Klan could possibly have done in the last fifty years.

 

includethe degraation and objectification of women in here and we think with the same mind.

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Heres my view.. I think the slavery card is waaaaay played out. Im white and live in a primarily black neighborhood. I have my times where i hate black people, but i also have my times where i hate white people. Ill admit its black most of the time but that is strictly due to the ratio of people. I dont really give two shits about black people nor do they give two shits about me. We co-exist as one, thats pretty much about it. Im not one of those white dickheads taht are "anti-racism", those are just dumbshits that dont want to stroll through the hood, and when they do they can show some badge that says they arent racist while they lock their doors and roll up their windows. Fuck it... this is stupid. lynching black people is sooooo 1950s. Come on you dickfaces, we have moved on. All that shit is history.

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Re: Good Photographs

 

Originally posted by KaBar2

How come no gory-ass pics of dead black kids with hypodermic needles in their arms? Or dead black kids shot to pieces by some other gangbanger over absolute bullshit? Or one of the millions of black children in this country being raised by his grandmother because neither one of his parents is responsible enough to be sure he is fed, bathed, clothed and cared for well enough to survive to adolescence?

 

Calm down, KaBar. You act as if everything you listed are problems that only correspond with the black race.

Aside from never knowing of a regular drug overdose to be a "gory-ass pic", drugs are an epidemic that has hit hard to all races all around the world. As far as America is concerned, true blacks have been hit the hardest by the drug epidemic. The reason being is because historically, drugs infiltrate lower-income neighborhoods more than middle-class or upper-class neighborhoods. And because a larger percentage of black people in America dwell in these lower-income neighborhoods, they have been the chief "target" for drug trafficking.

 

How about a shot of South Central Los Angeles during the "bad old days" when racism and segregation was rampant and the black kids went to school in clean clothes, there was no trash, abandoned cars, or burned-out houses in the area, and no gang graffitti on the walls of the neighborhood?

 

Are you implying that "segregation" is why the crime rate in America was significantly lower? As far as the trash, abandoned cars, clean clothes, etc... you're wrong on everything except for gang graffiti. These things existed just as they do now. After reading The Autobiography of Malcom X, he speaks about the harsh ghettoes that blacks were subsequently forced to live in. And his description of the ghetto back then is similar to the ghettoes now. The only difference is that blacks had far less opportunities then in the "ghetto", yet the crime rate is higher now.

 

Back to the gang graffiti.... graffiti culture wasn't around prior to the late 60's early 70's because culture didn't exist then. That's like asking why rappers didn't get any airplay back in 1955. Because the culture didn't exist then!

 

As far as the crime rate... anyone who pays any attention would know that drugs play a major role in not only the crime rate, but can severely alter an entire social and demographical fabric of any given community. Drug trafficking in America was always around back in the 50's, 40's, 30's, 20's; or any other decade in this nation's history. But it wasn't at the epidemic proportions that it is today. Crack cocaine, the most potent form of coke, didn't hit the inner-city streets until the late 70's, early 80's. And at the same time, gee, whadya know... the homicide rates and overall crime rate rise right along with it.

 

You see KaBar, you can blame the abolishment of segregation laws all you want, but with or without it, the drug epidemic would've still been the reason for the decrepit social situation. Had we kept racial segregation (which equals greater racial tension), and combined with the drug epidemic would probably be even more disastrous.

 

South Central Los Angeles is a far better place now than it was back then (as far as freedom and opportunity). At least now, the people in the community are the ones who actually own the majority of the businesses in the community. Prior to the 60's, most were owned by Jews or whites.

 

 

Then you could contrast that with modern-day South Central, which looks like an abandoned urban battlefield, awash in litter, trash, abandoned cars, broken windows and ignorant, stupid-ass gang tags as high as a person can reach, and crawling with dope dealers, killers and drug addicts too wasted to bother trying to save themselves.

 

See above.

 

Fuckin'-a. It's all white peoples' fault.

 

I'd like to know where the robust, vibrant and admirable black neighborhoods went? Where are the decent, church-going, law-abiding black folks that populated these neighborhoods fifty years ago?

 

This is where your ignorance hits its peak. To say that there are no "law-abiding" blacks is not only ignorant, but biased and prejudice as well. Have you ever done any research before spitting out your opinions? Apparently not. If so, you would know that there are plenty of rich black neighborhoods across the country. You act as if all blacks live in ghettoes. I can only speak from an L.A. perspective, but anyone who knows about L.A. communities such as Baldwin Hills, View Park, and La Dera Heights (aka The Black Beverly Hills), would know that there are rich black neighborhoods with the nice ride-your-bike/walk-your-dog type of atmosphere.

 

A few years ago I saw that movie "Boyz in the Hood." In that movie, there is a pissed-off old black man who is railing and complaining about how the gangsters have fucked up his neighborhood. That's the character I could identify with the most.

 

Of course these ignorant gangbangers fuck up the neighborhood. There's no disputing that. But you still must look at the root cause of why gangbangers are who they are... look at their environment they were brought up in (not by choice). Had they been raised in the nice suburbs with both parents and went to a private school, would they turn out the same? And then look to the root to why they grew up in poor neighborhoods... I won't elaborate. Some people don't like hearing the truth. Anyway, the key to curing anything is attacking the roots of the problem. Blame the gangmember all you want, but they aren't the root problem. Chopping off that root will take some time.

 

Although the murder rate is falling (thank God) we are still seeing five or six thousand gang-related murders of one minority kid by another EVERY YEAR. At the peak of the crack cocaine epidemic, it topped TEN THOUSAND MURDERS A YEAR. Shit, no wonder the murder rate is coming down, the stupid motherfuckers have killed each other off.

 

You guys bitching about racism are totally barking up the wrong tree. The Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis are a bunch of pathetic, low-self esteem losers that are virtually no threat to anybody but themselves. The danger to minority kids (mostly minority boys) is GANGSTER CULTURE that glorifies violence, criminal behavior, drugs and irresponsible sexual behavior. "Gangsta rap" music has done more to destroy the black community and foster self-destructive, murderous, criminal, genocidal behavior than ANYTHING the Klan could possibly have done in the last fifty years.

WAKE THE FUCK UP. STREET LIFE AND GANGSTER CULTURE ARE KILLING BLACK KIDS.

 

See above.

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Re: Re: Good Photographs

 

Originally posted by gfreshsushi

includethe degraation and objectification of women in here and we think with the same mind.

 

...however, the degradation and objectification of women isn't something that is only glorified by music of the gansta/hardcore rap genre...nor is it a problem that only plagues the minds of black males. The world on a whole, and certain societys in particular tend treat women in a similar manner. (objectifying them and whatnot)

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My point, as an analogy.

 

That big kid kept picking on me. He picked on me for a long time.. but

one day, a bystander found it politically beneficial to make him stop.

Well, the bully did stop, and actually we coincide now pretty well.

 

 

 

 

However, I nag him every single day and prod jokes at him, and I remind

him of exactly what he did to me. I think we'll remain good friends.

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Theo Huxtable

 

This is my third try at responding to your reply. Twice now, my computer has been hit by some stupid porno pop-up advertisement. Very annoying.

 

NO, I am not implying that the repeal of segregation laws caused the problems of the ghetto. It takes a particular mindset to come to that conclusion from what I wrote. What I was implying is EVEN THOUGH THE WORST CONDITIONS EXISTED (during segregation) during that period of time, black culture and white culture were very similar, and both groups held similar (socially conservative) values. Black families were about as intact then as white families are today. In 1963, approximately 25% of black kids were born out of wedlock. Today, that is the white percentage. Today, seventy-four percent of black kids are born out-of-wedlock. That statistic is exceedingly regrettable, and is the root cause of most of black America's woes, a lot more so than any effct "white racism" could possibly be having.

 

In my opinion, most of our society's present problems can be directly attributed to cultural change. Most women work outside the home today. Not so, in 1963. Black kids may have lived in a racist, segregated society, but they came home to Mom after school. And if they got in trouble, they had to answer to Dad, who probably whaled the tar out of them with his belt.

Gangs? "Not on MY block" in 1963. Drugs? "Nigger, if I see your dope-dealin' black ass at this school again, I'm going to put you in your grave! You just give my son some dope, motherfucker, and WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU! You won't have to worry about them worthless cracker cops when I finish with you."

 

There were no gangs because there were men, good, decent, married men, in every black church, in every black neighborhood, in every black barber shop, who were not content to allow thugs and criminals to exercise influence over their world. Today, many men refuse to even marry the mother of their children, much less stand up to criminals on the corner. I find it very disheartening. Millions of black kids are growing up without a father, and hundreds of thousands without father OR MOTHER. This is NOT the work of white racists, man.

 

IT IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM OF THE "URBAN" BLACK COMMUNITY.

 

Of course I know that there are wealthy black neighborhoods all over America. That's what I'm TALKING ABOUT. It's not RACE, it's CULTURE AND BEHAVIOR. The black people who were once the leaders and role models for the kids in the ghetto have mostly all moved to the suburbs, leaving the people behind who just can't seem to get themselves together. And if the people my black co-workers call "ghetto rats" ever make it to the suburbs, my black co-workers will MOVE into another, less accessible, mostly white neighborhood. They do not want to live around that kind of ghetto, thuggy, offensive behavior. Instead of "white flight", it should be called "educated, upwardly mobile flight."

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anyone who allows the thought of racism to be an excuse for rising above all is just a fool with his or her mind in shackles. Besides within the next fifty of so years 50% of this country will be part or fully latino. and in the next hundred years half of the world will be bi-racial

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i don't care what kind of neighborhood you were raised in, how poor your family is, how many ancestors of yours were slaves, etc.

 

i hate it when people blame their situation in life on "the man" or "the system" or claim to be a "victim of society."

 

the whole victim mentality is what keeps people from progressing, and it's a disease. virtually anybody in this world can make it if they try.

 

it's all about self-reliance i tell ya....

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Re: Theo Huxtable

 

Originally posted by KaBar2

This is my third try at responding to your reply. Twice now, my computer has been hit by some stupid porno pop-up advertisement. Very annoying.

 

NO, I am not implying that the repeal of segregation laws caused the problems of the ghetto. It takes a particular mindset to come to that conclusion from what I wrote. What I was implying is EVEN THOUGH THE WORST CONDITIONS EXISTED (during segregation) during that period of time, black culture and white culture were very similar, and both groups held similar (socially conservative) values. Black families were about as intact then as white families are today. In 1963, approximately 25% of black kids were born out of wedlock. Today, that is the white percentage. Today, seventy-four percent of black kids are born out-of-wedlock. That statistic is exceedingly regrettable, and is the root cause of most of black America's woes, a lot more so than any effct "white racism" could possibly be having.

 

In my opinion, most of our society's present problems can be directly attributed to cultural change. Most women work outside the home today. Not so, in 1963. Black kids may have lived in a racist, segregated society, but they came home to Mom after school. And if they got in trouble, they had to answer to Dad, who probably whaled the tar out of them with his belt.

Gangs? "Not on MY block" in 1963. Drugs? "Nigger, if I see your dope-dealin' black ass at this school again, I'm going to put you in your grave! You just give my son some dope, motherfucker, and WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU! You won't have to worry about them worthless cracker cops when I finish with you."

 

There were no gangs because there were men, good, decent, married men, in every black church, in every black neighborhood, in every black barber shop, who were not content to allow thugs and criminals to exercise influence over their world. Today, many men refuse to even marry the mother of their children, much less stand up to criminals on the corner. I find it very disheartening. Millions of black kids are growing up without a father, and hundreds of thousands without father OR MOTHER. This is NOT the work of white racists, man.

 

IT IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM OF THE "URBAN" BLACK COMMUNITY.

 

Of course I know that there are wealthy black neighborhoods all over America. That's what I'm TALKING ABOUT. It's not RACE, it's CULTURE AND BEHAVIOR. The black people who were once the leaders and role models for the kids in the ghetto have mostly all moved to the suburbs, leaving the people behind who just can't seem to get themselves together. And if the people my black co-workers call "ghetto rats" ever make it to the suburbs, my black co-workers will MOVE into another, less accessible, mostly white neighborhood. They do not want to live around that kind of ghetto, thuggy, offensive behavior. Instead of "white flight", it should be called "educated, upwardly mobile flight."

 

I totally agree with your points, but what do you suggest should we do? Make gangsta rap illegal?

As for drugs, the only problem with them is that they are illegal. People have been getting high for thousands of years, i lie? it seems to me the only reason they are illegal is so that people can die obtaining/selling/O-Ding on some crap cut with something else(i.e coke w/baking powder). Alcohol/nicotine/prozac etc are just as addictive as coke/heroin, so why are they legal?. the only drugs i've done, however, are weed and shrooms, so correct me if i'm wrong.

 

About modern slavery, most third world countries are still definately enslaved, no doubt about that, its just called something else now. Hell, I would say working almost any kind of 9-5 job you don't enjoy is slavery.

 

Also, Satan, i was going to say what you said about the bully thing only i couldn't seem to articulate it.

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Originally posted by BOZACK

i don't care what kind of neighborhood you were raised in, how poor your family is, how many ancestors of yours were slaves, etc.

 

i hate it when people blame their situation in life on "the man" or "the system" or claim to be a "victim of society."

 

the whole victim mentality is what keeps people from progressing, and it's a disease. virtually anybody in this world can make it if they try.

 

it's all about self-reliance i tell ya....

 

are you black?

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