ubejinxed Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 i don't know if anyone posted this yet, but i find this outrageous.. two articles i've seen thus far on it. http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/05/fingerpri...gram/index.html ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Up to 28 million visitors to the United States now have to stop for photographs and fingerprinting under a new government program launched Monday and intended to make it harder for terrorists to enter the country. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said the new US-VISIT program applies to any visitors who must have a visa to enter the United States. By October, all visitors will be required to have a machine-readable passport or some other method of biometric identification, such as fingerprints or retina scans. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/01/...s.ap/index.html RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) -- Brazilian federal police said Thursday they were not ready to begin fingerprinting all U.S. citizens entering Brazil in line with a judge's sudden order to launch the program, which matches the treatment Brazilians get when the enter the United States. On Monday, Julier Sebastiao da Silva, a federal judge in Mato Grosso state, ordered the move in response to new regulations requiring citizens from 27 countries -- including Brazil -- to be fingerprinted and photographed upon entering the United States as an anti-terrorism measure. more ... Outside the United States, there has been a backlash as well. In reaction to the U.S. policy, Brazil last week began fingerprinting and photographing American visitors arriving at Sao Paulo's airport. Brazil's Foreign Ministry has also requested that Brazilians be removed from the U.S. list. Ridge said that "if the Brazilian government thinks it's in their interests (to fingerprint and photograph Americans), so be it." "It's not two standards, one for the United States and one for the rest of the world," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 oh yah> Citizens from more than two dozen countries, mostly in Europe, aren't required to carry a visa if their visit is less than 90 days. Visitors from those countries are exempt. Visitors from exempt countries who are working in the United States, however, require a work visa, and therefore must leave their fingerprints and photographs with U.S. authorities. "We want visitors from abroad to continue to come to the United States, but we also want to secure our borders," Ridge said. - yah right are people going to come visit, it's becoming so hostile. this is going to kill our tourism industry and create even more resentment internationally. i wouldn't go to a country that treated me like a criminal b4 even entering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 this actually doesnt really bother me all that much. nor would it bother me if another country expected me to get finger printed upon entry. i had to jump through flaming hoops to go to vietnam, and just sort of chalked it up as being 'how it goes'. as long as israel is on the list of those who need to get printed, i think there are alot more important, nefarious things to focus on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinchedWaist Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 ugh, I'm so sick of all these so-called anti-terrorism measures. The part that really freaks me out is the retina scans. I was watching this segment on 20/20 once where they were saying that in the near future people walking down the street would have their retinas scanned by cameras to see if they were wanted criminals or not. and to think, theres so much more stuff (conspiracies and whatnot) that we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by CinchedWaist I was watching this segment on 20/20 once where they were saying that in the near future people walking down the street would have their retinas scanned by cameras to see if they were wanted criminals or not. that was in some movie... i forgot the name..hmm yah i agree, i hope that all of these 'protective measures' do not go much farther, i'm already not comfortable with the level of invasiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 How do the retina scans work? Does it scan through the pupil to the back of the eyeball? Would color or painted contacts affect them in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Big government is over. From now on, instead of community you will be left in the Market place to fend for yourselves claw for yourselves stab for yourselves guard for yourselves what little money, savings, dignity and shelter you have left. After your jobs are downsized and exported to Mexico, tennishoes made by slaves in camps in Indonesia, computer jobs sent across the ocean to Indonesia, you will be next unless you bow down to the gar boots and throw your benefits away your raises away and this is all you have to look forward to forever and ever and ever. As more and more benefits are slashed, no more tax and spend welfare state the windfall from tax cuts for the rich is more and more people out in the cold on the street! Begging for money. And when that doesn't work, robbing people car jacking home invasion everyone taught that life is so cheap there's nothing to look forward to except what you can score and smoke and get higher. Ending welfare as we know it means third world crime as we know it. So why is it all these young people today misbehave misbehave, misbehave? Don't they appreciate the world we've build for them? Crappy jobs, dog eat dog. No compassion in the marketplace. If you like school you'll love work. Instead they ditch work and hang out on the street: young culture young hooligans on tv anyway and in the newspaper. More and more people will poor in the street as their rents go up and job opportunities go down. So we have to keep them down before they rise up and burn our house of cards to the ground. It's just the cost of doing business in third world countries where we keep the peasants down. We have to live in armed compounds with armed guards, play tennis at gunpoint. A different route to work behind bullet proof glass each day, but hey, the more the hoards hate you the more status you have. Why not do this with the whole world? with GAT treaties, downsizing but what about those god damned hooligans in the street? We stole their future. It's all their fault! We must lock them up, but there is no room in the jails so the best way is to sweep them away, make every home a prison today. Curfew, Curfew Who cares how much our leaders are corupt, as long as they are tough on crime? Curfew Keep them away! Curfew No longer unauthorized activity. You can't leave the home without an electronic ankle bracelet. Young offenders must be tagged and watched at all times. Tag their parents with bracelets too if they don't obey! For that matter tag them at work and make them stay. The main enemy terrorist threat is your own children. Think about it: The music they listen to that tells them the world is bad. It's the songs that are the problem not the violence outside. Keep them locked up! Keep them in Curfew! Put them away! Don't let them out! We are tougher on crime before the election. We want a national law establishing children's bedtimes. Bedtime Patrol We'll check up on you. Bedtime Patrol Make sure that your bracelet is on. The nanny state, to reach down your pants and check and see if you've been moistening yourself with any unauthorized substance without permission. Tag them! Curfew them! Keep them down! Keep them at home! To school to rent a video on the way home and stay home just like at work. Do not gather after dark. Curfew! It's such a family oriented word, a much more acceptable smiling soft word, a much more palletable concept than Marshall Law. Put your bracelets on. You are safer when you are watched. Don't go outside. You will set the alarm off! Curfew Forever and ever and evvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Tom Ridge told me it's gonna protect our borders.... inside of little buildings... no mention of the actual geographic borders that are still easily infiltrated. Anyway, one thing is sure, those fucking terrorists won't be vacationing here goddammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 seriously, what about the canadian terrorist tourists? someone could get a canadian passport and come on over... this is so silly. and i'm mad i'm going to have to be fingerprinted to go to brazil... vindictive mofos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Borders outside of the U.S. are pretty nuts.. or at least I noticed Amsterdam and Germany have no where near the security we do; even prior to 9/11. I've snuck in and out of Amsterdam International customs without having shit checked. There's these weird booths you go through when you're leaving the airport and then there's these weird giant sliding glass doors... well, I walked around the booths and opened the door with my hands. Did the same thing to re-enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalstPIG Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 why do you care? it's called quid pro quo. sorry it interferes with your brazilian man fetish, sweetie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamblersGrin Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by ubejinxed that was in some movie... i forgot the name..hmm yah i agree, i hope that all of these 'protective measures' do not go much farther, i'm already not comfortable with the level of invasiveness the movie is minority report. i just caught it on the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 This is so stupid. What are they gonna do with all these prints and photos anyway? Americas biggest thread is America itself, the enemy is gonna come from within. Keep importing more guns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalstPIG Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 ^ it's "threat", smart one, and we don't import guns, we make 'em right here in the good ole US of A. it's a very lucrative business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by capitalstPIG ^ it's "threat", smart one, and we don't import guns, we make 'em right here in the good ole US of A. it's a very lucrative business. :nope: :rolleyes: Hahaha.. silly faggot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by ubejinxed seriously, what about the canadian terrorist tourists? someone could get a canadian passport and come on over... hahahahahaha... canadain terrorists! HA! It's not as easy to get a canadian passport as the US officials might lead you to believe. on a side note: There's a game out for xbox called 'Rainbow 6' where you fight terrorists. In an early version of the game you have to fight Quebec Seperatists who've highjacked a train. The game got pulled because there are no 'quebec terrorists' anymore. It happened for like 3 months in the 70's and I think they only kidnapped one guy. Now the greeks and 17N..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalstPIG Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by 26SidedCube :nope: :rolleyes: Hahaha.. silly faggot. thanks for using that word. it was really necessary. you idiotic rumpshaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubejinxed Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 Originally posted by capitalstPIG why do you care? it's called quid pro quo. sorry it interferes with your brazilian man fetish, sweetie. i am sorry too my friend, good thing there are anough of em in my neighborhood. i think it's funny that they mandated americans to be fingerprinted, i'd do the same damn thing just to show us how silly we are being. i don't really care, i just think that fingerprinting tourists to the US is a bit excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 wasn't there some law (possibly in the constitution) that you dont have to be fingerprinted unless you've been charged with a crime or suspected of being an accomplis or a conspirator? Seem like an invasion of personal privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 go brasil!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Originally posted by banjo bob because these people aren't american citizens, they aren't guaranteed any of the rights in the constitution. I was always under the impression that anyone on american soil was to be treated failry with all the rights of an ammerican. I guess that changed. And on the other hand, many americans expect that their rights as americans will be respected when they travel to other countries. Should this also be the case? Eventually this action will bankrupt the economy or change the USA in a nation of 'spys-for-hire' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Whats the point in fingerprinting a suicide bomber? anyway, go brazil!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Originally posted by Europe This is so stupid. What are they gonna do with all these prints and photos anyway? They're gonna put them in a big old database and 'track' foreigners... it's just some smoke and mirrors, plus false justification, so they can build an internal database so they can 'track' everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Thamaire Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 'state of freedom' they said!! hahahah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Originally posted by Europe This is so stupid. What are they gonna do with all these prints and photos anyway? Ever seen the movie A Beautiful Mind? http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/a_beautiful_mind/russell_crowe/mind2.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 this is totally awesome guys, i mean, think of it as patriotism, dont you want to be a patriot? because, like if they fingerprinted the guys who flew planes into buildings, it totally never would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Originally posted by T.T Boy this is totally awesome guys, i mean, think of it as patriotism, dont you want to be a patriot? because, like if they fingerprinted the guys who flew planes into buildings, it totally never would have happened. I totally think it will be all over now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se_FOUR Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 I like getting my photo taken........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Originally posted by T.T Boy this is totally awesome guys, i mean, think of it as patriotism, dont you want to be a patriot? because, like if they fingerprinted the guys who flew planes into buildings, it totally never would have happened. oh god, this pretty much sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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