why write? Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 does anyone believe bombed or pieced or tagged trains will ever run in NYC again? I think one day the movement will come back...wut y'all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Thamaire Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 u.t.o.p.i.a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabo 2 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyor...dlines-politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Thamaire Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 History is a cycle, great foto by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I predicted this back in 2001, when budgets were cut. it is inevitable. the decay will come again. and once the money is cut.. what's the state to expect? they're pumping money into military industrial spending, iraq, and other crap and neglecting domestic problems. those billions could definately go to state's to pay for subsidies and what not..especially NYC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabo 2 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by can of worms http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyor...dlines-politics now that I think about it, this article could just be bullshit trying to justify rising costs. London underground tell the home office it costs 10 grand to clean one train :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Thamaire Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by can of worms now that I think about it, this article could just be bullshit trying to justify rising costs. London underground tell the home office it costs 10 grand to clean one train :confused: one point,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vynlone Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 If your in New York get some heavy stainers and smash the system.This will take more money they don't have !!! I'd love to visit a smashed new york subway system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittypanels Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by why write? I think one day the movement will come back...wut y'all think? its alive and well in various european cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-quiet-1 Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 id love to go visit new york, walk into a station with fill-ins everywhere,then watch the train pull up with a huge top to bottom, then walk inside it and see that the insides are all bombed! thats a real NYC train!:D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 do you think if all writers went out and bombed da subway system, and kept doing it eventually they would run out of money to buff the trains, but the yards are soo up tight and hard to get into these days....the other day i was trying to come up with a plan on how to get in and i was scoping around and everything is watched and hard to bomb.....its amazing how they pay people to sit there and watch trains.....its like having people sittin there watching a parking lot full of cars..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vynlone Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 Originally posted by why write? do you think if all writers went out and bombed da subway system, and kept doing it eventually they would run out of money to buff the trains, but the yards are soo up tight and hard to get into these days....the other day i was trying to come up with a plan on how to get in and i was scoping around and everything is watched and hard to bomb.....its amazing how they pay people to sit there and watch trains.....its like having people sittin there watching a parking lot full of cars..... Nah there is holes in any system. How come NYC's hardcore still hit them and loads of euro's do panels etc? (This is not a diss at new york as the USA vs euro argument is fucking old and boring!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangoria Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by why write? do you think if all writers went out and bombed da subway system, and kept doing it eventually they would run out of money to buff the trains, but the yards are soo up tight and hard to get into these days....the other day i was trying to come up with a plan on how to get in and i was scoping around and everything is watched and hard to bomb.....its amazing how they pay people to sit there and watch trains.....its like having people sittin there watching a parking lot full of cars..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Security is soooo tight after 9/11 that it makes any subway trains hard... the amount of security, cameras is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 I dunno... if there was some sort of Cou of freight writers, maybe. I'm saying it's doubtful, tho. Granted controling the graffiti 'problem' in NYC is a lot like controlling the rat problem... I'd imagine spray paint being banned before I could imaine walking into a terminal to see a car covered... Then there's thermal imaging: http://www.sixcentz.com/articles/heat_vision.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted December 16, 2003 Author Share Posted December 16, 2003 so do you think the whole era is dead or will security slow down eventually ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradywilson Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 when a city wants to portray to the public that things are on the up and up, without spending countless dollars to actually fix the real problems, they clean graffiti... joe average tends to threatened by graff, abd if things are clean, life is good... When a city tries to show the public all the wonderful things they are doing, the FIRSRT thing they do is buff... it is the fastest easiest way to make it LOOK like things are improving... therefore, the MTA will not allow the trains to become plauged with graff... even if other areas have to suffer, they WILL find the money to claean graff, in order to make things look like everything is under control, and things are still safe and well............ Its all about appearances and public misconception.... so stop holding your breath and thing about the big picture... not just this false reality of graff and the 15 year old narrow minded reasoning that goes along with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebsBK Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 as much as i would like to say yes, im afraid those days our over :o too much crazy technology with all this infa-red type shit and other security traps, security is just going to get tighter and harder to get into the stations.... wish i was around in that era.....so many awesome subway stories passed down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 portable drill, engraving bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 eh, it'll never be as it was back then, that was one era of graffiti, it has grown and changed since then. btw, did anyone notice the little TAKI 183 tag on the stairwell photo in that ny newsday link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 hell yeah,check out those photos in the link above, all Style Wars cats, TAKI 139, EVA 62, Barbara 62, CAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 183, I mean TAKI 183! God I'm dumb, whatevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DankLordz Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 It would be interesting to see what happened if a larger group of writers started trying to concentrate on getting more panels to run.. by painting more cars, hitting more frequent, trying to exhaust the buff.. If it were done in a large scale I could see something possibly coming of it. You have to realize though, If you keep pushing something like this, mass hits, alot more people actively painting it, consequences are going to get ALOT more intense.. I know the typical response will be "well dont get caught", but, it happens to the best of us, and I know I would definatly not want to be on the recieving end of consequence during a time when NYC would be looking to hang someone over subways.. time will tell, graffiti is as hot as ever right now though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR BANOS Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 not unless newyorkers/americaaans change their attitude COMPLETLY. or if it ever does happen, it would only be because flights from europe were free. i speak the truth.:idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTTS1 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 new york is doable, as mentioned earlier in the thread every system as holes in, enough euro heads have done it, wholecars, wholetrains etc. so its possible people. i heard that desa mta is doing a bit agin, if all you new yorkers turned back to the trains then it wud get rinsed. power in numbers:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs702 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 if it does occur it seems likely that more security would evolve since they feel a graffiti era might be reborn when i was in nyc i saw some tags and bombs in stations that stayed there for about a week and i was a bit shocked for the time period of remaining up. plus i barely ever saw any cops, but saw a shitload of cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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