shai Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 ^^^ it doesn't seem any different than any other garvey, except it's black. it's got a little transparency around the edges. it's opaque enough. don't know if it fades yet, but i'm sure it does. i'll use it to write on unsealed concrete, most likely. marsh comes in three grades- k grade is kerosene based. smells like gasoline, use outside. use it for porous surfaces. smears when dry, leaves shadows. weird stuff- i don't use it much... t grade is turpenoid based, all-purpose/surface ink- smells like pine sol and ink. doesn't smear like k, though. rarer, and therefore more expensive. a grade is alcohol based and i think it has antifreeze in it. smells like cat piss. comes in colors, and is tintable. all-surface. shake for a while before you pour it-it's lumpy. dries the quickest. as far as i know, marsh doesn't use xylene, and more than makes up for it by using kerosene. thanks for the nero tip. does it have any application in fine art or design? i seem to do more of those two these days. hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC P. Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yo omen im gunna ask yyou cuz you have a lot of them, but this is basically for anyone... how thin would i havee to make bucket paint to put it in and aerosol art marker, or one of those OTR paint markers... and what would make it stain hard?? Do i have to thin it at all? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 does anyone know what type of paint can be used on otr markers? i heard acrylic paint thinned with water writes nicely opaque, like those spanish montana markers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeRVe54 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 MC P. >> you wanna thin your bucket paint out about 3/4 paint to 1/4 paint thinner; mineral spirits; nail polish remover etc. BLAHNESS >>water is no good. use thinner or anything like it. see above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panakeii Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Inferno is quite hyped. But if you boil off about 3 dl per liter and add some xylene you get really nice buffs. Yeah, you can get quite good ghosts with the ink straight out of the bottle but they won't stand many buffings before they fade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC P. Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Nerve are you saying i use 3/4 paint and 1/4 of any of the three things you listed? where the hell do i get mineral spirits btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spade561 Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Originally posted by MC P.@Aug 21 2005, 03:15 PM Nerve are you saying i use 3/4 paint and 1/4 of any of the three things you listed? where the hell do i get mineral spirits btw? Quoted post mineral spirits is like paint thinner. on the front of the cans of paint thinner it might also say mineral spirits. it does on mine. just dont try to use laquer thinner, it seperates from the bucket paint. see in the flick where it says mineral spirits inside that black box i put there? its on a paint thinner can. [attachmentid=20213] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC P. Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 So if i use silver bucket paint, and this mineral spirits business which would basically mean krink, so i have been lead to understand, will it clog up my otr paint markers/ aerosol arts?? thanks for the help btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Its better in mops as it will more than likely clog your shit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biteityouscum Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 ive gotta empty posca but i cant b bothered with all this mixing and boiling etc. could i just put leather dye in and it would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowantstoknow Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 fuck what ya heard, the hardest staining shit ive come across is the semi permanent hair dye, its called react or some shit, comes in a red bottle, only thing it comes out like shampoo, but... u can thin it out with water, or rubbing alchohol. i got the color black, and it stained purple when dried, i couldnt even get it to smudge with household cleaners, plus if its painted over it will seep through at least 2 layers of paint, depending on what it was mixed with. im going to try to thin it out with some bacardi, see how far that gets me i wonder what would happen if you used hair dye in your ink recipe instead of dot 3.. someone try it, leme know what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spade561 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Originally posted by MC P.@Aug 21 2005, 10:59 PM So if i use silver bucket paint, and this mineral spirits business which would basically mean krink, so i have been lead to understand, will it clog up my otr paint markers/ aerosol arts?? thanks for the help btw. Quoted post i dont know. im a mop person. the only marker i use is a pilot. but it probably will. ive had it get too thick after not using it for a while and slow the flow of the paint&thinner in a kiwi before so its probably not a good idea. but its not the same as krink. krink is an actual ink. but basically it looks the same if you get the mix right. i hear the rusto silver looks most like it. someone else on here a few pages back mentioned some brand that works right outta the can. have fun. btw. if someone on here wands to send me some ink or markers for cash or pilots, then help me out cause i cant get anything here in south florida without a credit card and i cant get it sent to my house so i need someoe to send it from their address. pm me if you want. if anyone here lives in 561 and can get it to me in person that would be groovy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC P. Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Thanks man... im gunna try it out in my aerosol art and see what happens anyway... but its not a new aerosol art its the baby blue one and it has the ink from their in it, does anyone know if thats gunna fuck with the silver paint + thinner ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panakeii Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 whowantstoknow Most hair dyes will stain hard only for a limited time, but i don't know if you should exchange it for the dot3 as the dot3 is corrosive and hairdye is not. It would be better to use it instead of fiebings and shit like that as a stainer and leave the corrosiveness to Dot3 or strong solvents. Also house cleaning agents and the buff are two different games, you should try it out in town to really know if it kills shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhamster Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hey i just bought a "Sharpie poster paint" marker but its water based, super washable... so is there anything i can put into it to make it more permanent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by goodhamster@Aug 24 2005, 02:23 AM Hey i just bought a "Sharpie poster paint" marker but its water based, super washable... so is there anything i can put into it to make it more permanent? Quoted post new ink? they also make oil based sharpies now- they aren't bad- one blew up in my hand saturday and my hand's still red. ha ha, red-handed! oh, i kill me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowantstoknow Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 i put it up around town a month or so ago, even did a little inside work on some trains, it survived 2 buffs, the first buff was the wipe down, it didnt go anywhere, the second buff was the paint over, it seeped through @ half darkness. does anyone know the ingredient in ink that makes shit seep throug the buff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panakeii Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Most of the time it's xylene behind the seeping, but there are probably more alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spade561 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Originally posted by goodhamster@Aug 23 2005, 10:23 PM Hey i just bought a "Sharpie poster paint" marker but its water based, super washable... so is there anything i can put into it to make it more permanent? Quoted post trying to refil a sharpie is like trying to give it to someone up the butt: its messy, its do-able, but in the end its just not worth it...i know the industrail ones have super strong ink in them, ut theyre not as big. otherwise, you wasted money. sorry bud. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC P. Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 does anyone know where i can get aluminum dust, to sparkle up my krink mix? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoneedsavet Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Does anyone know the difference between methrlayted sprits and Mineral sprit.... As i have no clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromebogie Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 probably already been answered a lot of times, but is dot 3 the best brake fluid to mix with ink? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeRVe54 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 ^yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmate Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 It says here that gentian violet is poisonous and can be absorbed throught the skin. So what thats the deal, some of you have mentioned staining your hands with it??? ""Gentian violet is easy to use, but because of the presence of phenol (poisonous!) in the solution, it should be handled very carefully with suitable gloves and protective clothing. Phenol can be absorbed through the skin, even from dilute solutions. Spilled solution and waste should therefore be handled with caution. Gentian Violet is supplied as a concentrated, ethanol-based solution that must be diluted before use with water (15-30 times)."" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Originally posted by checkmate@Aug 27 2005, 07:02 PM It says here that gentian violet is poisonous and can be absorbed throught the skin. So what thats the deal, some of you have mentioned staining your hands with it??? ""Gentian violet is easy to use, but because of the presence of phenol (poisonous!) in the solution, it should be handled very carefully with suitable gloves and protective clothing. Phenol can be absorbed through the skin, even from dilute solutions. Spilled solution and waste should therefore be handled with caution. Gentian Violet is supplied as a concentrated, ethanol-based solution that must be diluted before use with water (15-30 times)."" Quoted post that's when it's in solution. they use phenol/ethanol as a solvent for gentian violet, and yes, it's really bad for you...but, it's also really good for ink, too- some of my favorite ink is phenol based. i would just wear dishwashing gloves, that will do fine. gentian violet is also available as a reagent in powder form- check chemical supply stores, especially ones that specialize in biology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeRVe54 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 gentian violet im sure wouldnt be good to cover your hands in. but it is used on the skin when you get piercings. thats the stuff they make those dots on you with. so dont worry about it unless you wash your hands with the stuff. peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by NeRVe54@Aug 28 2005, 03:22 PM gentian violet im sure wouldnt be good to cover your hands in. but it is used on the skin when you get piercings. thats the stuff they make those dots on you with. so dont worry about it unless you wash your hands with the stuff. peace Quoted post he's right...gentian violet by itself is safe, it's the additives you need to look out for. and, unless your name is grimace, or want to answer a lot of dumb questions, keep it off your skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxus Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 what can i use to thin out paint with out paint thinner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxus Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 what can i use to thin out paint with out paint thinner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Originally posted by toxus@Aug 29 2005, 07:09 AM what can i use to thin out paint with out paint thinner?? Quoted post that's about it, my man....unless it's water-based, then water will work. sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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