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and as per 12oz rules, this isnt about recreational use of it.

 

I get panic/anxiety attacks pretty regularly. just think of a total feeling of hopelessness and loss, with no justification or reasoning behind it. its just there. you get that "rollercoaster" feeling in your stomach and chest and every good thought you try to force into your mind gets turned bad, "nothing is going to go right."

 

i just take 2 or 3 .5 mg pills and 15 minutes later, the worry might still be there, but for the most part you feel a shitload better.

 

anyone else take these or other anti-anxiety mediacations? i lost all faith in ssri's and other anti-depressants after i took pretty much every type available and they only had negative effects on me. this is the only med i keep to "take as needed," and it works like a charm.

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I dunnnnoooo. I get those feelings like that often but I resist going to a doctor. I guess I'm just stubborn and will be stuck with feeling shitty but it seems like everyone takes ant-depressants lately....making everyone zombied out.

Could the reason for this widespread depression be that there's *something* lacking in our present society? :confused:

Edit: I've been getting panic attacks since I was around 12.

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i have been prescribed,pxil,welbutrin and zoloft and the only fucking thing that really works is xanax and valiums.xanax i prefer but my doctor stopped giving me scripes for them....so now i got to go to street pharmacist haha and gets the goods......actually im on xanaxs right now hahha 1 mg's but i got like 70 left still.....

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Originally posted by GnomeToys

Benzos are horribly addictive and withdrawl is worse than heroin withdrawl. Have fun.

 

read: AS NEEDED

read: NO RECREATIONAL USE

 

ive had worse withdrawl from paxil and celexa. a doctor never told me to taper, and i had a week of hell after i quit them.

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Yeah, I'm bi-polar which makes for lot's of fun anxiety attacks. I went to the hospital one time for anxiety and ended up having a panic attack right in the lobby. They gave me some ativan and that mellowed me out right quick. Those pills work great but they're supposed to be addictive as all hell. I never have my doc prescribe me more than I need.

 

Prozac is fun and Zyprexa rocks.

 

Us depressed types get all the best pills

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Originally posted by freightlover

read: AS NEEDED

read: NO RECREATIONAL USE

 

ive had worse withdrawl from paxil and celexa. a doctor never told me to taper, and i had a week of hell after i quit them.

 

Go read the horror stories from people taking these daily for a year or more. I was on klonopin for about 9 months and never took more than the prescribed dose, but tapering still took 2-1/2 months and I still had joint pain and muscle spasms for another month after that.

 

I'm not insulting your prescription or attempting to damage your ego, just telling you the truth. Calm the hell down.

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Originally posted by GnomeToys

Go read the horror stories from people taking these daily for a year or more. I was on klonopin for about 9 months and never took more than the prescribed dose, but tapering still took 2-1/2 months and I still had joint pain and muscle spasms for another month after that.

 

I'm not insulting your prescription or attempting to damage your ego, just telling you the truth. Calm the hell down.

 

i am calm. sorry about the caps lock.

 

i take the ativan when i get a panic/anxiety attack, which is usually once every few weeks or so. i dont take them every day and probably wouldnt.

 

i take them so little that the nice mellow mood they put me in is nice, but every day like that would probably get old.

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PAXIL /PREVICID/PROZAC/WELLBUTRIN/ZOLOFT

been prescibed all but none worked for me as well what suck is ya got to take one everyday or twice a day and your body makes you think you need them(addicted)even after you realize they dont do any thing that would better your feelings . only bad side effects

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Originally posted by GnomeToys

Go read the horror stories from people taking these daily for a year or more.... just telling you the truth.

 

there are also plenty of people who have been taking valum for 20+ years, and had no real adverse effect. would the go through withdrawl if they stopped taking it? probably. but would a diabetic die if they stopped taking their insulin? probably.

 

klonopin is not a benzo, its an anti convulsent.

 

 

seeks/no stranger to amber bottles

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Startling

 

It sort of wierds me out when I think about how many people on this board are on psych medications, or are self-medicating heavily with alcohol or street drugs.

 

It makes me speculate as to whether or not graffiti has some connection psychologically with depression/ bipolar/ dysthymia and (from society's point of view) "anti-social" behavior.

 

About six months ago, my doctor had me try Paxil. I didn't like it. Then I had what I thought was a heart attack, and it turned out to be a combination of a killer-level case of indigestion and a panic attack. After spending the day in the ER and on a cardiac unit, doing stress tests, they told me "Nope, no heart attack---just panic." So they put me on Zoloft 50mg every morning for depression, Zocor 80mg to lower my cholesterol (it was like 236--now it's 166) and Protonix for indigestion.

 

Man, what a difference. I feel much better, much, much, much less irritable and stressed out. It's hard to believe that one little blue tablet could make such a difference. Depression sucks. If you feel shitty all the time, you might could benefit from an SSRI or three.

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i got boxes of paxil and welbutrin and i think they are worthless............im on xanax now 1mg every couple of hours and shit works great but like everyone else said the withdrawal is nuts.....use at extreme caution........o just send me all your xanax and valiums to me email is at the bottom:lol: :lol:

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Originally posted by seeking

there are also plenty of people who have been taking valum for 20+ years, and had no real adverse effect. would the go through withdrawl if they stopped taking it? probably. but would a diabetic die if they stopped taking their insulin? probably.

 

And there are plenty of coke addicts who can take it for a very long time and function normally, but that doesn't make the addictive nature any better. That warning was useless in this thread though since he said that he's only taking it when having attacks. You won't get withdrawls from doing that.

 

klonopin is not a benzo, its an anti convulsent.

 

 

Klonopin is clonazepam, a benzodiazepine. Almost all benzos also have anti-convulsant / anti-seizure properties.

 

From www.rxlist.com:

DESCRIPTION

 

Klonopin, a benzodiazepine, is available as scored tablets with a K-shaped perforation containing 0.5 mg, 1 mg or 2 mg clonazepam, and unscored tablets with a K-shaped perforation containing 1 mg or 2 mg of clonazepam. Each tablet also contains lactose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose and corn starch, with the following colorants: 0.5 mg: FD&C yellow no. 6 lake; 1 mg: FD&C blue no. 1 lake and FD&C blue No. 2 lake.

 

Chemically, clonazepam is 5-(o-Chlorophenyl)-1,3-dihydro-7-nitro-2H-1,4-benzodiazepin-2-one. It is a light yellow crystalline powder. It has a molecular weight of 315.72. The molecular formula is C15H10ClN3O3.

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Gnome Toys is correct

 

Klonopin is a serious benzodiazepine, similar to Xanax or Valium. The most addictive benzo that I know of is Xanax. We get kids from time-to-time on my unit who are seriously, life-threateningly addicted to handlebars. Abusing benzos is for idiots. They are addictive as a motherfucker. No thanks!

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i was prescribed zoloft a hilwe back..I took them for about a week and then I quit.

 

I liked the fact that you could piss on my shoes right in front of me and I didn't care but as far as my comprehension went it was like being baked out of my mind all day long. I would be at work trying to make orders and I would have to have someone help me to make sure I wasn't fucking up because I couldn' think straight. Another bad part was if someone tried to explain something to me it was just in one ear and out the other The worst though was when I missed ONE dose..I wanted to kill myself for about 36 hours. I went into a HORRIBLE depression. I made one of my boys just watch me and keep me as "sedated" *wink wink nudge nudge* as possible until I felt better...after that 36 hour period of wanting to die it started to subside and I decide that I am not going to take those fuckers again....fuck antidepressants, all they did for mewas make me a retard with a death wish.

 

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Originally posted by GnomeToys

Klonopin is clonazepam, a benzodiazepine. Almost all benzos also have anti-convulsant / anti-seizure properties.

 

ok, you win, it is a benzo. but from my understanding, the only connection the rest of the benzo' have with seizures is their mucle relaxing qualities that help someone come out of a seizure, not prevent them. (although im more than willing to admit i could be wrong about that as well)

 

now i rant....

people that are so completely, catagorically anti-medication just come off as insecure and ignorant to me. claiming that ssri's are useless placebos, blah blah blah, it's the gay bashing of the new milenium. what you afraid of? being so 'weak' that you cant handle shit on your own with a football and sme porno? blah. they tend to act like nazi's about it. touting regurgitated rethoric they copped off some pamphlet from a sXe hardcore show (where half the crowd of self hating little over-privledged kids were on the fucking things anyway) and screaming at the top fo their lungs about how bad certain things are, apparently concerned for the health of people they would never offer anything more than hollow words to as assistance. fuck off. everything will kill you, and everything is addictive. our society is cancerous.

ever have a panic attack? ever have them control your life for ten years? if it was the only thing that helped, i'd take an unhealthy addiction to xanax over a life of constant panic anyday.

our society is sick in the fucking head. 1 in 5 people has some form of mental illness. we're all like dogs, so inbred that we've mutated into twisted new versions of our predecessors. everything is bigger, brighter, faster, more flashy... we got computers, so we could do more, so then we did more, and then we started multi tasking, and now no one knows how to just fucking sit down anymore, except for the people that do nothing but smoke pot and play x-box, and thats sure as shit not a healthy alternative...cause as soon as they leave the flashing colors, they cant read a fucking book, cause the letters are sitting too still for them to focus on. oh, but fuck, we've got amazing hand eye coordination... dope. we'll all be prepaired to fly remote controlled bomber's and destroy whole villages from the safety of a bunker 30,000 miles away. blah. anyone else notice that the drug loving 60's and 70's spawned a whole country of mentally and emotionally defunct future world leaders? or am i the only one to make that connection?

 

 

seeks/this was not directed at you gnome, it was directed at anyone that it applies to

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Nice rant, I personally had some pretty nasty panic attack problems that the Klonopin was originally prescribed for, but when I became tolerant I switched to Celexa. Since then, I've had an endless slew of idiots that don't understand the definition of clinical depression giving me wonderful pieces of advice like,

 

"Yeah man, I get sad sometimes too, but you can do it without the pills, everybody gets sad."

 

Sure buddy, its completely normal to be sitting around once a month with a fucking 20 gauge in your mouth trying to get the willpower to pull the trigger. I'll just tough that out. I get more pissed when I see these people drinking every night.

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Originally posted by seeking

 

now i rant....

people that are so completely, catagorically anti-medication just come off as insecure and ignorant to me. claiming that ssri's are useless placebos, blah blah blah, it's the gay bashing of the new milenium. what you afraid of? being so 'weak' that you cant handle shit on your own with a football and sme porno? blah. they tend to act like nazi's about it. touting regurgitated rethoric they copped off some pamphlet from a sXe hardcore show (where half the crowd of self hating little over-privledged kids were on the fucking things anyway) and screaming at the top fo their lungs about how bad certain things are, apparently concerned for the health of people they would never offer anything more than hollow words to as assistance. fuck off. everything will kill you, and everything is addictive. our society is cancerous.

ever have a panic attack? ever have them control your life for ten years? if it was the only thing that helped, i'd take an unhealthy addiction to xanax over a life of constant panic anyday.

our society is sick in the fucking head. 1 in 5 people has some form of mental illness. we're all like dogs, so inbred that we've mutated into twisted new versions of our predecessors. everything is bigger, brighter, faster, more flashy... we got computers, so we could do more, so then we did more, and then we started multi tasking, and now no one knows how to just fucking sit down anymore, except for the people that do nothing but smoke pot and play x-box, and thats sure as shit not a healthy alternative...cause as soon as they leave the flashing colors, they cant read a fucking book, cause the letters are sitting too still for them to focus on. oh, but fuck, we've got amazing hand eye coordination... dope. we'll all be prepaired to fly remote controlled bomber's and destroy whole villages from the safety of a bunker 30,000 miles away. blah. anyone else notice that the drug loving 60's and 70's spawned a whole country of mentally and emotionally defunct future world leaders? or am i the only one to make that connection?

 

i dont know if you were directing this at me for my remarks about none of the ssri's working on me, but i agree wholeheartedly.

 

the drugs are definetely there to help people, and they do help SOME people. but for me, paxil make me a teeth-grinding insomniac...so fuck it.

 

i deal with my depression, and on bad days i get full of self pity and hole up in my room...on good days i relish in NOT being depressed, and it makes me feel good.

 

honestly id rather go through life having "real" feelings than being zoned out on celexa all the time. this isnt to say that i think the drugs are inherently bad, they just didnt work for me and thats my opinion of them now.

 

and as for the people who say that drugs are a crutch, they have no idea what its like to be "clinically depressed." its not that depression you get after you do bad on a test or get laid off from work, its a general feeling of everything being wrong with your life. its unprovoked and theres nothing you can do to get out of the hole. fuck being tough and getting over it, if you can find the light at the end of the tunnel with something, medicine included, then more power to you. but you cant feel what any other person in the world feels...so its stupid to judge someone who can make their life better with anti-depressants.

 

sorry for the rant. and i know ive talked to you before about this stuff, seeking, so i know it wasnt really directed at me. just thought id get my 2am "im making no sense" rant off.

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not towards you at all. im not saying ssri's will work for everyone, just saying that they do work, and they do help a hell of alot of people.

depression would be better served by receiving a new name...something that seperates it from the notion of being 'depresed' because its really nothing alike. its a condition like diabetes, or high blood pressure, or anything else that requires medication to stablize the bodies natural imbalance.

 

if you think of how complex or bodies are, its a wonder more things dont go wrong.

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