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Chicken George

how hiphop is graffiti to you

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i see alot of kids in here into graffiti that arnt really hiphop kids. to me graffiti is all into hiphop just becuase i got into graffiti through hiphop and iv alway associated graffiti with hiphop becuase of that.. how about you, how much of a role does hiphop play into your graff life?

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i listen to all kinds of music. i enjoy death metal a lot. right now im listening to piebald. and earlier i was looking for a dose one song while i copied a jets to brazil cd. then i went for a bike ride listening to old school hardcore as well as new school when my headphones broke so i came home and listened to aphex twin.

 

in other wordsm i dont view graffiti as a culture or a part of hip hop culture anymore. its an art form. artists like different kinds of music. what does it mtter.

 

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Guest Eager Salamander

GRAFFITI HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO ME. EVEN BEFORE RAP MUSIC WAS CALLED"HIP HOP" AND ALL THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT GRAFFITI BEING A FUCKIN CULTURE... NIGGAS JUST ALWAYS DID IT. PEOPLE ALWAYS RAPPED(GHETTO PEOPLE ATLEAST)IE.MAHAMED ALI' THE FLAOT BLA BLA THING. SO FUCK THE CULTURE BULLSHIT. FUCK THE LABELING OF THINGS. FUCK THE UNITY AND THE UNIFICATION OF CULTURS...

i think i like to do "graffiti" thats it

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i dont think you took what i said how i ment it. i wasnt trying to promote graffiti as apart of hiphop culture i was just asking how much if any it is involved in it. like i said i got into graff through hiphop and all the kids i know into graff are really into hiphop. i guess kids took the wrong way. my bad jigga...bad question i guess. damn nigga stop trippin i aint bangin.

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Guest Eager Salamander

IM NOT SAYING THAT GRAFFITI IS PART OF ANYTHING GRAFFITI IS ITS OWN THING. FUCK TRYING TO CONNECT EVERYTHING AND LABELING EVERYTHING SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND IT .. CUZ IT AINT FOR EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY AINT FOR IT... I MEAN HIP HOP... THAT LABEL HIP HOP/...... THATS AN ILLUSION

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yea i know...my question was for how you feel your personal opinion. i wasnt trying to ask people what label graffiti belongs too. this is gonna go no where so ill just close it. thanks anyways

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Guest chicken bone

well let me put it this way, myself included, many writers today got into this shit because of the presupposed myth that graffiti is an "element" of hiphop. the media glorified it that way back in the day, and it still holds today. ask any kid if graffiti is hiphop he'll say "yeah!".

 

i dont see whats so bad about, it creates more writers, and to last in this you have to be dedicated to it.. not many people stay toy forever.

 

you like that.

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Originally posted by Comp:

i'm so emo, like andy dick

 

do you wear white belts. white belts are so sexy.

 

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to me, since graffiti outdates hiphop and most of the writers i know arent "hiphoppers"

i dont feel in anyway a part of the hiphop world. i do, however, like some hiphop, i just listen to alot more noise and death/black and regular metal and indie rock and noise rock and bluegrass and ambient and hardcore punk/techno and yadda yadda yadda....

 

[This message has been edited by drizo (edited 08-26-2001).]

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graffiti doesn't have shit to do with hip hop. graffiti is not a part of "hip hop culture", and it pisses me off when people try to promote it like that. i could care less about going to some stupid fuckin b-boy summit to paint on some big pieces of masonite or some shit. they wanna make graf look like a side show or something. and i don't agree that it's cool because it creates more writers because i'd rather see writers who are into graffiti just to do graffiti, not because they want to be part of some fairy tale 4 elements culture that doesn't even exist.

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has anyone heard that song by juice-the elements? basically hes saying without graffiti, mcing, breakdancing, and djing, rap aint staying. they all revolve around eachother. there wouldnt be any mcs without hiphop. breakers wouldnt exist. what music poineered djing to how we know it today-hiphop. and if without graffiti, rap wouldnt be here-wouldnt it be the same the other way around-without rap, graffiti aint staying? maybe now that graffiti is so big, it would matter but back in the day hiphop had direct influence on writing. i dont know, im just saying.

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Guest K[O]MEGA

i dont listen to hiphop at all..

i got into graffiti through a friend who showed me a tight ass sketch book and i was liek daamn i wanna do shit like that..

 

and of course ...kOmega ..smOken tree's

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Guest MR BOJANGLES

IM MORE HIPHOP THAN YOU! MWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE...THE MEDIA CREATED THE TERM "HIPHOP", NOT US.

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yea i dont know. i was just saying i got into graffiti through other parts of "hiphop" reguardless if it belongs there are not. i was saying it is hiphop and im not saying you are all hiphop for being writers and you have to go buy beat street to fully respect graffiti. word blocka blocka

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Guest imported_SecretAgentX9

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Originally posted by Chicken George:

and you have to go buy beat street to fully respect graffiti. word blocka blocka

 

????? What is this madness!?

I told you this hip hop/graff thread would get out of control. You must watch beat street to appreaciate graff??

 

there was graff in beat street?? (sarcasm)

 

 

.....and as i get pulled under by this hip hop cra........

Beat street was a shitty ass movie besides the battles and kenswift.

Wild Style is better movie out of all of them saying that alot of the footage wasn't acting, just bboys gettin down and writers getting up

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