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recently i was working at this ghetto ass web design place. my 'boss' was an indian woman in her mid 30's. she'd been here for about 7 or 8 years i think, but i could be wrong. anyway, one day her sister comes in, see's me (with my dreads) and gets all spooked out. she pulls my boss aside and says 'why is there a sage working here making web pages' (or something to that effect). fucking hillarious. she'd never seen an american with dreads before, she'd only seen the hindu yogi's, that would go off into the mountains, then come back down years later with their hair all dreaded. very amusing.

and yes willy, you are very right in the fact that rastas are not the only ones who have dreads. i kept my argument to them basically because they are the most outspoken, and the most frequently identified, culter associated with dreads. they are the people who dude will be confronted by, and and they are the ones that 99.9% of people will think of when they see him. as far as your desire to have dreads...hey man, i wish you the best. i have no regrets what so ever about cutting mine, and infact find it very difficult to remember what it was like having them.

i do know that people treat me very differently now. not nearly as much attention (which i never ever wanted) and far more 'normally', which after living so long in the spotlight of a walking circus, is pretty welcome. i always had it difficult also, because i lived a very otherwise 'normal' life. i worked in an office, hung out with 'normal' people. dressed 'normally'. didnt smoke pot, didnt drink (for most the time)... the combination of all those things confused the hell out of people.

anyway, im starving to death, have to clean, pack, do laundry, and make a list of everything else i need to do, so im not making any sense.

um yeah.

 

seeks/ummm, yeah, i did actually say 'titty-fucking'

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i guess this may be a little off topic, but what pisses me off worse than whiteboy hippy types, whiteboy rastas, or whiteboy hiphop dudes with dreads is whiteboy numetal dudes with dreads. that's the worst shit ever. plus, usually they have tattoos along with it. from my understanding of rastafarians, which i admit is very limited, isn't one of the main reasons behind dreads preserving the natural state of the body? isn't it supposed to be about not tampering with the body's natural growth--therefore no haircuts and no shaving? to me, kids who have dreads with heavy tattoo coverage and/or a lot of piercings are mixing philosophies. one school of thought is that you shouldn't mess with your body at all, and one is that you should decorate your body however you see fit. the whole numetal dreads died blue with a septum piercing and 00g plugs seems so ass backwards to me.

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^^ that's a valid point^^

 

...but let's face it; nowadays, to most people, Dreadlocks are just another hairstyle, just like cornrows and mullets. People hop on it for a short time, then tend to move on to something else after some time has elapsed. I see a large number of people who twist their hair up and plan on letting it lock, and then I see them some time later (months/years) and their hair is in a completely different state. A lot of people do it for spiritual reasons, but these days, most do it for fashion/trend. To each his own is guess.

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I don't need to borrow anybody else's culture, already got my own, thanks

 

The culture of Texas and white Southerners in general is plenty interesting for me, so I guess I won't ever need to borrow dreads or whatever from the Rastas. I still stand by what I said--"Do whatever you want, without regard to other people's opinions." They might be annoyed. Oh, well, best get over it. And as for "hobo culture," I don't see that any actual culture exists. Most tramps are too busy trying to find something to eat or panhandle a buck to bother with culture.

 

Biker "culture" was completely co-opted from the very first second. It's even worse now, with every dentist and accountant in America tooling around on custom Harleys built by somebody in a custom shop who charge $25,000 for their trouble. Got a Visa card? Now you too can be "Born to be Wild!" And Numbnuts Harley-Davidson will be glad to provide you and your girlfriend with all the official H-D logo "accessories" that anybody could ever imagine. They don't worry about wrenching on their own scooters--everybody knows they don't have the time for that, what with their "active lifestyles" and all, LOL.

 

We live in a global village, remember? Cultural rip-off is just one more thing about the world that is "just too bad," along with the decline of the family, out-of-wedlock births, the proliferation of drug use, loss of wilderness, overcrowded beaches, shitty underpowered "disposable" cars, the move of the yuppie assholes into every decent town and city in the West, driving local real estate prices high as Manhattan, and the pussification of Western men.

The world is going completely to shit. Might as well get used to it.

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off topic as hell but ive been looking it up tonight and it was mentioned on here so what ever

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these are traditional Maori Ta Moko's.

the actuall word "moko" refers to the Maori tribes facial and body tattoo's. they were worn by all in the tribe but the more elabrit ones, like above, were on either chiefs or warriors and most women only had there chins done. countless other tribes have facial tattoo's but this style and the word moko are almost exclusily maori. ive been researching the hell out of this latly. if anyone else cares there is a book by Horatio G. Robley called Maori Tattooing that is being reprinted, originally came out in the 1890's, and will be out in Jan.

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any true rasta wont pass judgment. i live by rasta ways but not all, i believe waht i believe. and i am white, like it matters. if you believe in rastas positive ways and want dreads then do it. until the color of a mans skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes...."bob"

and sure you can say i listen to bob so this that blah blah

if you guys could just stop all this bad mouthing about something that is peacefull...come to hawaii and find out waht aloha and real rasta is

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Originally posted by SteppinRazor

if you guys could just stop all this bad mouthing about something that is peacefull...come to hawaii and find out waht aloha and real rasta is

first of all your name is from a Peter Tosh

song, him Rasta same way true? "im

dangerous"-Peter tosh

 

Peter Tosh was no easy man, ya understand.

Ever listen to him talk; with the "fuckry dis'

and "the fuckry dat". Rastsfari is born out

of poverty and oppression. It was the

saving grace for those who had nothing,

for those who had no hope. Colonial rule

was devastating. Selassie, a black king,

Kept a black nation to from falling under

colonial rule; Had white world leaders,

bowing to honor his rule. These were

Powerful images and happenings to the

nya-men in Jamaica.

 

Rastafari Keeps the basic tenants of ALL

religions; do unto others, right over wrong.

Rastafari is not all ABOUT turning the

other cheek. There are some very rough

Rastafari.

 

As there are bad Christians, Jews,

Muslims; there are some Rasta, who are

not righteous day to day.

 

You are naive if you think all rastafari will

greet you with open arms simply cause you have dreadlocks.

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Originally posted by boxcarwilly

the blatant gay bashing inherent to a nature based religion or lifestyle. "more fire" ring any bells.

 

gay bashing is not really a rastafari thing. Even though it has become a hot topic in the dance hall.

 

Homophobia can be more atributed to jamaican

culture; which is folded into what the rest of the

world may see as rasta edicts.

 

Gay bashing, oral sex, for both men and

women; are both frowned on widly, at least

publicly in jamaica. Its funny cause Jamaican

men on a hole are more comfortable with there

sexuality then americans.

 

You will never see 50cent row di boat, or drees

flamboyanlty, Dancehall artists , dance, jump

scream and whale, showing emotions in a way

"american" tuff guys are scared to. US tuff guys embrace with clasped hands in the middle carefuly protecting there chest form touching, and asholder pat for good measure.

 

Homophobia is a throwback to survival of the

fittest- two homos dead the lineage with their

union; spilling seed into non fertile soil. but these

days with science and over-population it seems

like a natural method of self impossed birth

control.

 

 

work is slow today. yes god.

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i know its from a peter tosh song. duh. i feel that i am underestamated

and i know what rasta was born out of and all that stuff thats why i don't really follow most of it. i follow the positive teachings. i don't care what other people think i don't care what other people do. my confrantaions have been good ones and if someone acts towards me with aggression and hate then they are not rasta. peoples actions constantly remind me of what this world brings, good and evil

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If you wanna live

Treat me good

If you wanna live, live

I beg you treat me good

 

I'm like a walking razor

Don't you watch my size

I'm dangerous

Said I'm dangerous

(2X)

 

If you are a bully

Treat me good

If you are a bully, a bully

I beg you treat me good

 

I'm like a stepping razor

Don't you watch my size

I'm dangerous, dangerous

(CHORUS)

 

If you are a chucky

Nobody chucky from me

If you are a chucky, a chucky

Nobody chuck from me, Yea

 

CHORUS

 

I'm like a chopping razor

Don't you watch my size

I'm dangerous, dangerous

 

If you eat asphalt

I beg you treat me good

If you drink lead soup

You better treat me good

 

CHORUS

 

If you are bull bukka

Nobody buk from me

If you are duppy

You move away from me

 

CHORUS

 

I'm like a stepping, walking

 

I'm dangerous, dangerous

 

If you wanna live

Treat me good

Warning you if you wanna live You better treat me good

 

I'm like a stepping, walking, cutting, flicking,

jumping,chopping, walking

I'm dangerous(2x)

I'm like a stepping, jumping, flicking, bumping, boring

I'm dangerous(2x)

 

If you drink mortal

Treat me good

And if you eat brick

Treat me good

 

I'm like a flashing laser and a rolling thunder

I'm dangerous(2x)

I'm like a stepping razor

Don't you watch my size

I'm dangerous, dangerous

 

Treat me good

If you wanna live

You better treat me good

 

Talking: ...You don't through a fifth of the trilliation

I go through...

Only a name would be here to represent...

 

If you wanna live

You better treat me good

You could a drink lead soup

I'm dangerous

You could a eat asphalt

I'm dangerous

You could a eat brick crackers

I'm dangerous...

I saw the sun...Fucking dangerous...

 

 

 

bottom line:

 

 

I am dangerous

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Well...still waiting for my friend to give me a list of what I need to buy for her to dread them. I mean what more does she need then a comb and teh wax.

 

Seeking...since you have quite a bit of experience with dreads i want to ask you something...did you start washing them even you just got them or did you wait. I've been told that washing them with non sented residue free shampoo is fine and you can wash them when you first get them. But then I'v been told you need to wait a while. What did you do?

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i waited a few weeks, but also my hair was never of the type that got real dirty, or smelled like hell, so i could pull it off.

you can try washing it with bar soap, or something kind of coarse and drying like that. a list of items? dude, beeswax and rubber bands. theres you're list.

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I live in Eugene, so hears your list (Much like Seekings) Wash with bar soap (Only when neccisary) Much beez wax..stinky shit, but the worst is yet to come , rubber bands of coarse, Raid, Patuuli oil,and lots of sun Walla! By the way RESPECT to all the Rastas...

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not to c arry this conversation past the point of beating a dead horse, which it has already gone, but this is mainly in response to garcia vega's comment on numetal kids who are rocking dreads with plugs, ie shadows fall or something like that, it is not a defensive point id like to make but one of open mindedness, i am not a fan of numetal or even that much metal beyond the symphonic vampire stuff which is just amazing that they get away with it, so back to my original point, and probably back to points i have made, lets go to india, where in my humble opinion all culture originated you can dispute this and probably have valid arguments but it wont change my mind so dont waste your breath, in most lines of vaishnavism and shaivism dreads (more like plaits than rasdreads but dreads uncombed matted hair nonetheless) are grown until one's guru leaves the planet, now according to vedic philosophy and history this has been going on for longer than modern science even gives us time on the planet, not to go on a srimad bhagavatam history lesson, *if you are interested in that let me know but for the essence of the discussion ill try to keep it short*, so if all culture originated from the indus valley, and spread this is when the planet was all on continent known as pangea, cultures we all dreaded, along with marking the body with marks known as tilaka youve seen it if youve looked a any indian holy men its the clay on the head the brands and tattoos marking a particular religious sect be it nimbarka or gaudiya etc, in addition to the earliest man rocking dreads and markings on his body, the vedic text of pancaratra pradipa discusses the ear piercing ceremony for boys at the time they are able to eat grains and solid food, the ear is pierced (and only recently was gold placed in the ear) and a piece of holy wood (tulsi, banyan, or any other religiously significant branch) was placed in the childs ears, at this time for girls their heads are shaved while boys hair is allowed to lock up, only certain renunciant groups would shave their heads...

this may give a little insight into how someone like myself whose ears are 1.5inches and has a lot of tattoos may want or desire dreadlocks, and though i may not be the most knowledgeable about the cultures i have desired to assimilate in my life, i know enough about them to realize that my actions are neither offensive or looked down upon, two stories to relate this instance, you may have seen the discovery channel special on crosscultural piercing, john from ny adorned travelled to ethiopia to chill with the sara tribe, known for beautifully large ears and lip plates, they basically thought of him as just from another tribe across the river and accepted him like one of their own, and a personal story when i was in india people would look at my tattoos and only react to the extent that they had never seen such colors as tattooing in india is mostly needles with soot not ink so traditional indian omkaras and tilak markings have a really nice blue grey patina to them... as for stretched ears mine were bigger than most but i did run into some bramhins that had almost 1 inch ears.

 

sorry for the long elaboration i just thought the point should not slip by. we seemingly according to other people are all one tribe, and so on this philosophy assimilation of traits is just like the dispersion of art, culture comes from culture as art comes from art.

one.

jobe.shouldve been an anthro major.

 

***and on an aside about dread tips, tho i believe anyone who wants dreads can have them this doesnt stop me from calling people with shitty dreads idiots, dreads are a completely natural hairstyle and may need some help taking especially if you are white, but you will i promise love your dreads a shitload more if you dont pull all the bullshit in your hair, a little beeswax goes a long way and DO NOT use anything but 100% pure beeswax, most formulas have lanolin or moisturizers in it, this makes no sense for someone trying to dread up because you are making hair that you want to mat down slippery you fucking moron. and NEVER EVER EVER *this was already mentioned) dye your fucking dreads unless it is with clay, henna or some other natural substance you not only will look like a fucking moron but you will be going against the main reason for carrying the worlds most natural hairstyle on your head. and if your head gets itchy steal buy just get some rosemary leaves (preferably fresh) boil it in water until the water turns black and put that in a spray bottle to use when your get unbearable scalp itch.

enough already jobey go get high and slow the fuck down.

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What kind of shampoo should I use? I was searching web sites for soaps that would be ok for dreads. One I came across was on some site called dread head hq or something like that. It had some shampoo that was scent free and residue free and all that good stuff. I'd order it but I don't want to have to keep ordering it for the rest of my life. I'd rather just be able to go to the store and buy it. Any suggestions?

 

Eshoism...totally tubular brah!:cool:

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that actually was pretty enlightening boxcar. i don't know jack about india but you've sparked my interest to learn more at some point. tattooing is basically my life. i actually resented dreads, because i thought they were a trademark of rastas, and i thought that rastas were not accepting of tattoos. so your point was not taken as defensive. i guess now i really can't be opposed to dreads on a philisophical level, but i can still think they look corny on whiteboys! hahaha.

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