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Isreal Goes on The Attack!

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oh shit... *and a typo in the subject line.... d'oh!

 

Israel Bombs Syria

Warplanes hit suspected training camps used by Palestinians

 

 

We're in for some serious shit now!

 

Beirut, Lebanon -- Israeli warplanes bombed a target just miles from the Syrian capital yesterday, in the first Israeli military attack inside Syria in 30 years. Israel said the site was a training camp used by Pales- tinian militants responsible for deadly attacks against Israelis, but Syria said it was a civilian area and warned of a "grave escalation" in violence.

 

The air strike - in apparent retaliation for a Palestinian suicide bombing Saturday that killed 19 Israelis, came on the eve of the 30th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, in which Israel held off Arab armies. The attack brought condemnation from many Arab governments and heightened fears that Israeli-Palestinian fighting could spread to neighboring countries. The Bush administration appeared to have been taken by surprise, with officials saying that Israel did not give Washington any advance warning of the attack.

 

The administration urged both countries to show restraint, but added a pointed criticism of Syria, saying Damascus "must cease harboring terrorists and make a clean break from those responsible for planning and directing terrorist action from Syrian soil." Washington has been pressuring Syria for months to cease its support for Palestinian militant groups and to seal its borders with Iraq, where Syrians have slipped in to fight U.S. troops. Last month, administration officials suggested that they might impose sanctions on Syria.

 

^ How about some sanctions on Isreal?

 

If ANY other country in the world did this it would become a major

international crisis and you know the US would be stepping in to 'police' the situation.

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damn typo!

 

--------------------------whoa!

 

WASHINGTON took aim at Syria yesterday, accusing it of being a supporter of terror as the furore grew over Israel's air strike on Syrian soil on Sunday.

 

The rebuke came as the George W. Bush Administration sought to stop the incident from escalating into a regional crisis.

 

Syria called an emergency UN Security Council meeting over the attack saying it threatened "security and peace in the region and internationally".

 

In response, the Israelis said the deepest airstrike into Syria in 30 years had targeted a training camp for Palestinian militants and was in self-defence.

 

Washington said it would not support a Syrian resolution condemning the raid because it made no mention of a Palestinian suicide bomber attack on Saturday, in which 19 people were killed in an Israeli restaurant.

 

say what?

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'No it's more like... Saaayyyy Whhaaaat?'

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I have a strange feeling i know where will this lead....

 

:tongue:

:tongue:

:tongue:

:tongue:

:tongue:

:tongue:

:tongue:

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I mean Launching an attack on a country you suspect is going to attack you?

 

where the hell did they figure out that one?

 

;)

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I dont buy the "Israel did not give Washington any advance warning of the attack." if it werent for the states the arab world would have eaten the jews alive a long long time ago. Israelis dont move with no US backup. aka "Washington said it would not support a Syrian resolution condemning the raid because it made no mention of a Palestinian suicide bomber attack on Saturday, in which 19 people were killed in an Israeli restaurant."

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Originally posted by Pistol

^5 Israel for not letting us know/asking for permission.

 

 

by us you mean the U.S. right, (but meant to say 'us' not U.S.), well I would be surprised if we didn't know about it and bless it.

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Re: Israel Goes on The Attack!

 

Originally posted by Kilo7-

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The Bush administration appeared to have been taken by surprise, with officials saying that Israel did not give Washington any advance warning of the attack.

 

The administration urged both countries to show restraint, but added a pointed criticism of Syria, saying Damascus "must cease harboring terrorists and make a clean break from those responsible for planning and directing terrorist action from Syrian soil." Washington has been pressuring Syria for months to cease its support for Palestinian militant groups and to seal its borders with Iraq, where Syrians have slipped in to fight U.S. troops. Last month, administration officials suggested that they might impose sanctions on Syria.

 

the beginning of a new and dangerous outlook on foreign policy and international relations, set off by bushy..preemptive strike (imperialism and domination disguised as fighting terrorists) without clear evidence and international support

 

and of course, bush is secretly thanking sharon for going on the syrian offensive, setting the stage for future aggression against another non-threataning muslim country.

 

disgusting.

the israeli/u.s. coalition has now cemented its position as terrorists themsleves.

 

in fiction, this would be the foreshadowing of the next world war..

[it may be reality as well]

we're dead meat

 

 

***tesser, i agree.

the israeli army is funded by the u.s.

simply by supplying them with weapons we have a good idea of what they;re being used for, and surely whenever a new devlopment crops up, we support it [but deny it publicly to save face while concurrently achieveing another objective: undermining syria]

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say what?

 

and of course, bush is secretly thanking sharon for going on the syrian offensive, setting the stage for future aggression against another non-threataning muslim country.

 

 

Whatever, let some asshole set off a bomb during your family reunion with all your close friends there and then tell me you wouldn't want to retaliate. :o

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try living next to a bunch of terrorist assholes and having a 'smart' bomb blow up the entire block.

 

:o

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Re: say what?

 

Originally posted by fermentor666

Whatever, let some asshole set off a bomb during your family reunion with all your close friends there and then tell me you wouldn't want to retaliate. :o

 

With all due respect, that kind of argumentative doesnt lead anywhere. Both sides practice the last 30+ years and see where we are. I'd hate it if that thread would evolve into a who did what thing.

Aparently, this is another new chapter..you all remember that after Iraq Bush wanted to invade Syria after washington claimed that the WMD's where tranfered there (...). After the whole Kelly thing in the UK and the exposure of the fact that Bush and Blair Lied Israel bombs Syria cause the give shelter to terrorists...and the saga continues...

 

its sickening me.

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Read A History Book

 

so, i take it you are an authority on Jewish settlements in Palestine?

 

when, and why they were founded? and by whom?

 

what international conflicts stirred around the establishment of "Israel"

 

if you want to harken back, then go all the fucking way back.

 

you can't point to a suicide bombing last week as the cause of a justified israeli attack on syria.

 

the suicide bomber was palestinian.

when was there any international investigation into terrorist activities in syria?

when was the last u.s. led terrorism investigation??

 

and while you are on the subject..

WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILY THAT WAS MASSACRED ACCIDENTALLY AT A WEDDING IN AFGHANISTAN LAST YEAR??

 

i suppose those lives don't count enough fo rretaliation in your book??

 

like tesser said, bringing up the history is a waste of time.

it is about what to do form here, and right now, attacking syria is only going to precipitate more conflict.

 

fucking ignorance!!

unveleebable

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on the history tip...

 

I think most people are in agreement that the Brits did a shit job

of diving the post-war territories. Originally the plan was to make

Jerusalem an 'Internation Religiou Zone' free of one countries jurisdiction.

 

and to go waaaay back...

 

There's a bit in the bible/torah about the jewish people moving in from

the desert and taking their 'promised land' by force. However modern

archeologist have found that to be untrue. There was a series of settlements

in the desert that would indicate that it took many years to 'gently move

into the promised land'. There was no great biblical 'take over'.

 

but like we all know...

 

The history and rightfull ownership can be disputed from here 'till infinity,

but that will not solve the conflict. Who knows what will?

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Originally posted by Kilo7-

on the history tip...

 

I think most people are in agreement that the Brits did a shit job

of diving the post-war territories. Originally the plan was to make

Jerusalem an 'Internation Religiou Zone' free of one countries jurisdiction.

 

 

Brits messed things up bigtime, another fine example is the Cyprus case. I dont know how many of you are aware of what went (and going on) down there, but its like a mini middle-east.

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I had to go back 'home' for a funeral last week... while there I walked past a couple of my old houses... one we rented and one we bought... I'd like to get both those places back but if I went in there with a gun it would be fucked up and I'd go to jail. If I had some court back up (for whatever reason) I could probably make it happen, but if they moved the folks I got evicted right next door to me then, I predict ongoing hostility and resentment... and then if I started digging up thier garden to plant my own flowers, well... it couldn't be good...

 

Still, at one point, after 30 years of fueding, I might believe that they had SO wronged me in the recent past that I would feel justified setting their car on fire... espescially if I got the gas from the courts that originally sanctioned my presence.

 

EVERYBODY wants to bitch about the middle east but nobody has a solution, MOSTLY because the people who live in the middle east will make their own decisions... and they have decided on religious bigotry and intolerance.

 

By choosing sides in the conflict, you align yourself with bigots of one kind or another. I don't even know why we argue about this crap. None of you ever mention the reunification of Ireland, a conflict that is every bit as real and carries more direct political implications as far as the U.S. is concerned...

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Re: Read A History Book

 

Originally posted by !@#$%

so, i take it you are an authority on Jewish settlements in Palestine?

 

when, and why they were founded? and by whom?

 

what international conflicts stirred around the establishment of "Israel"

 

if you want to harken back, then go all the fucking way back.

 

you can't point to a suicide bombing last week as the cause of a justified israeli attack on syria.

 

the suicide bomber was palestinian.

when was there any international investigation into terrorist activities in syria?

when was the last u.s. led terrorism investigation??

 

and while you are on the subject..

WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILY THAT WAS MASSACRED ACCIDENTALLY AT A WEDDING IN AFGHANISTAN LAST YEAR??

 

i suppose those lives don't count enough fo rretaliation in your book??

 

like tesser said, bringing up the history is a waste of time.

it is about what to do form here, and right now, attacking syria is only going to precipitate more conflict.

 

fucking ignorance!!

unveleebable

 

 

You get pissed easy. Can't we all just get along and live in peace and harmony? Let's be hippies.

 

P.S. I am a bigot. I am not ignorant.

 

 

P.P.S. I'm going to go look for another job like I should have 1 hour before I posted here. Enjoy debating about something which does not involve you. And I agree, make a topic about Ireland if diplomatic injustices really make you that angry. Or maybe Bosnia/Serbia (even though that was SOOOO 1999). :)

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Originally posted by Smart

None of you ever mention the reunification of Ireland, a conflict that is every bit as real and carries more direct political implications as far as the U.S. is concerned...

 

You think so?

Maybe because Kennedy was Irish but there's never been a jewish

or an islamic president so the conflict will always seem foreign to the US.

And what commodity was there to fight over in Ireland? The whiskey or

the potato crops? I'd agree that the Irish situation has a much bigger

impact on both the British Gov't and the Church, but on terms of international

finance it's a flash in the pan.

 

White Christians killing other White Christians is a bad thing but it's

really hard to pick sides (from the north american non-irish perspective)

but in the middle east it seems to come down to siding with who can benefit

the west more than the other, and right now palestine has nothing to offer.

 

my opinions, not to be mistaken for factual.

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Originally posted by Kilo7-

White Christians killing other White Christians is a bad thing but it's

really hard to pick sides (from the north american non-irish perspective)

but in the middle east it seems to come down to siding with who can benefit

the west more than the other, and right now palestine has nothing to offer.

 

I'm just gonna skip over the ignorance in the beginning and point out how you brought the 'race-card' into 2 conflicts that are entirely religious. The ONLY reason an Israeli looks any different from a Muslim is that the Jews rolled all over Europe for a thousand years, otherwise they are basically the same people (from a 'racial' standpoint).

 

And, how do you know that Palestine has 'nothing to offer'? What do the Israelis offer? This isn't a catchphrase conflict (war for oil)... but if you can distill it down to a t-shirt slogan, then, by all means...

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Question: Does anybody have a credible source that confirms the following quote?

 

 

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do."

 

~Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956

 

 

I remember Browner posting it a while back, and it prompted me to find out more about it. However, all I find is the quote stated on a jillion anti-Israel sites, with nothing that acertains it's authenticity. I can't even find the name Ouze Merham anywhere except mentioned in the quote. I've found one rebuttal to the quote but it doesn't look too convincing. Anyone?

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Originally posted by Smart

None of you ever mention the reunification of Ireland, a conflict that is every bit as real and carries more direct political implications as far as the U.S. is concerned...

 

i'm not 100% with kilo's comments either, but you're gonna have to back up this statement, because it seems absurd honestly.

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smart?

 

dude, the u.s. is not providing BILLIONS of dollars in military aid and equipment to ireland.

 

bottom line

 

this makes our involvement very real, very concrete

 

and the implications quite direct.

 

and fermentor666...

pissed? ..no.

but i am passionate about politics.

 

i don't see anything wrong with that

and i am all for peace.

unfortunately the u.s. government is not promoting peace accords..its roadmap was naive and unplanned...and now it is doing nothing in the face of an attack on syria

 

i never saw ireland attacking its neighboring countries due to terrorism on its own soil (in the most recent years of that conflict

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Re: smart?

 

Originally posted by !@#$%

dude, the u.s. is not providing BILLIONS of dollars in military aid and equipment to ireland.

 

bottom line

 

 

No, you're quite right, we provide that money to England.

 

this makes our involvement very real, very concrete

 

and the implications quite direct.

 

That's exactly what I'm saying... about the 'troubles'.

 

Apparently your memory is short, 5 years of an uneasy truce is NO solution.

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