BloodyWishes Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by LENS Graffiti is an anti-social activity. And why is it anti-social? Because it seeks to undermine a corrupt and anitquated system of culture, thinking and government. Who are we to deny an artist the power to break out of the underground and further that vision into the world at large? If someone wants to run the streets all their life and get the occasional photo op, more power to them. But it doesn't grant someone the right to fuck up legit art that is working towards making graffiti a respected and acceptable artistic medium as well as making a decent living. And if you're about the whole "graffiti's illegality gives me a rush and i want it to stay 'underground' " rant, why not hold up a liquor store or a bank? It has the same consequences, gives you the same rush and if anything, yields more gains than getting up in some dark alleyway at 4 a.m. Read that first part Shoefers. And you keep assuming, and attacking me for my opinions. How mature. I do not live with my family, I live alone and pay my bills and take care of my dog. Now Lens you are crazy if you are comparing graf to robbing a bank. I like graf yes because it is illegal, but it is art. What is the visual art in robbing a bank. None. Plus if I get caught doing graf I get pro-b. If I get caught robbing a bank, my skinny white ass gets raped in jail. You guys got it all backwards, and no skating isn't graffiti. I've been skating a decade and yes it is hated but it's a thousand times more tolerable in society than graf. I don't have to say what I don't like about society, but there's enough to dislike to make me wanna do graf, rack, skate, whatever. I know we must live in a society, and anarchy is complete bullshit, but if you are happy with your kids, wife, picket fence and salary job, then good for you. I am not dogging you for these things even though I see things differently. Funny how you keep calling me names and attacking me. You sound like a hot-headed old man. Make sure to vote for Bush this November buddy, I bet he's right up your alley. Oh and don't let your ball and chain know you're lookin at them asian broads, or you might just hafta mutter something under your pussy-whipped breath when she finds all the stored porn on your comp. Keep it up guys, this is the funnest time I've ever had during a thunderstorm. I feel like a kid arguing with a cop after being caught skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyWishes Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers Me and Lens are right. So shut the fuck up so we can check out hot asian broads. There's no right or wrong here, just difference in opinions. You just can't seem to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Jon, you carry yourself well in an arguement and you are right, this is a diff in opinions But you are insane if you think i am voting for muh fuckin bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avils Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers No youre retarded. Skating was graffiti before graffiti was. Before you were born people were skating and people fucking hated it. And if anything graffiti is way more of a hobby. Graffiti isnt art. Graffiti is writing your fucking name on walls. Skating is a sport. No more skate/graff shit. Youre retarded. Me and Lens are right. So shut the fuck up so we can check out hot asian broads. cock, i was addressing lens' post about skating, i deliberately left the graff bit out because people have been whining about that since forever and i couldnt give a fuck. do what you do, get up, get down, i dont care. but - before you and i *and* skating were born, graffiti was alive and well. check your ego at the door retard and do your history. and im talking about wayyy before taki 183 made it cool. good day. edit - cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoefers Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 but - before you and i *and* skating were born, graffiti was alive and well. check your ego at the door retard and do your history. and im talking about wayyy before taki 183 made it cool. Who the fuck cares then? People have been writing places since the fucking dawn of time. But the most Im giving graffiti as you and me know it is the mid 70s. Before that who gives a fuck. I fucking wrote on the walls when I was 3. I didnt consider myself a graffiti artist though. People were skating way before me you or anyone gave a shit or knew what the fuck "getting up" was. So to reiterate 1. Im more intelligent than you. You cant say anything that I wont have a quick and witty remark for 2. Yeah of course graffiti has been around long before you or I, but if youre going to bring ancient Egyptian graffiti into this. Then were talking history. Not graffiti. 3. Shut up. Im tired of graffiti historians trying to tell me who did what where and at what time and what graffiti means to them. I dont care. Skate or Die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avils Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers People were skating way before me you or anyone gave a shit or knew what the fuck "getting up" was. So to reiterate 1. Im more intelligent than you. You cant say anything that I wont have a quick and witty remark for 2. Yeah of course graffiti has been around long before you or I, but if youre going to bring ancient Egyptian graffiti into this. Then were talking history. Not graffiti. 3. Shut up. Im tired of graffiti historians trying to tell me who did what where and at what time and what graffiti means to them. I dont care. so are you pro-graff or pro-skating or what ? youre replies are too non-sensical albeit witty, but that makes for a poor argument, just you eating alot of humble pie. lemme see..skating history is ok to talk about, but graff history is not? dont ask a question if you dont want to hear the answer. i'll burn you at either one, and i've fucked more asian 'broads' than you have. edit - cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoefers Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Youre not talking graff history. Youre giving me a bland/obscure remark about how graffiti has been around long before Taki 183 with out examples or proof. I bet you wont burn me at anything. And I sincerely doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avils Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers Youre not talking graff history. Youre giving me a bland/obscure remark about how graffiti has been around long before Taki 183 with out examples or proof. I bet you wont burn me at anything. And I sincerely doubt it. history n 1: the aggregate of past events; :idea: anyway, *you* were saying how skating was around way before graffiti. i just pointed out that it wasnt and you started sobbing into your keyboard. give a fuck about taki or tony.. graff and skating are what they are to me, not you or society or whoever else you take your definitions from. cock. dont doubt, just know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers No more skate/graff shit. Youre retarded. Me and Lens are right. So shut the fuck up so we can check out hot asian broads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE CORONER Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 haha beef is funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nG Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 someone post flicks please! and respect to JonCoaltrain, for dealing with those two anti-bombing, whiney artfags (Shoefers & LENS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by urban cowboy Anyone know anythin bout the THC - NT beef. I heard AROE sparked one of CHOCKs mates at brighton then i see NT lined by chock alot on slam doors. Originally posted by sneak what i do know is that im sure both groups involved donty want it talked about on the net.. Urban Cowboy: There isn't a THC NT beef, but people reading your post will start talking about one now. Sneak speaks sense. Beefs have long and complicated histories and should not be talked about by people that aren't invloved, as it leads to all sorts of chinese whispers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban cowboy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by b0b Urban Cowboy: There isn't a THC NT beef, but people reading your post will start talking about one now. Sneak speaks sense. Beefs have long and complicated histories and should not be talked about by people that aren't invloved, as it leads to all sorts of chinese whispers. Sory just goin by what i heard....:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban cowboy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 http://www.conartists.co.uk/throwslondon/image/lon_oker_throws.jpg'> ...Closer pics of oker throwys posted b4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by nG respect to JonCoaltrain, for dealing with those two anti-bombing, whiney artfags (Shoefers & LENS) He didn't deal with shit and you certainly don't seem like you could counter our arguements with anything better than "yo, i keep shit real! Fuck a ten grand paycheck." Fool. Dalek getting lined out is fucked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nG Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Originally posted by LENS He didn't deal with shit and you certainly don't seem like you could counter our arguements with anything better than "yo, i keep shit real! Fuck a ten grand paycheck." Fool. Dalek getting lined out is fucked up i don't seem...? your posts consist of nothing but assumptions and disses. fool. sorry if i thought you were cyber-vanquished, i guess you're one tough motherfucker. :lol: now please fuck off to Channel 0 and sell some prints to your buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban cowboy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 SUB went to all that effort to take out abel.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Alex6988/lon_dubs.jpg'> OKER lined top left of shutter..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Alex6988/lon_hardcore.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yapiteeyap Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 serious stuff http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Alex6988/lon_dubs.jpg'> now that is one serious spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nG Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 ^ word. anyone got an idea of the age of the Info Abel Dref dubs? must be late 80's at least...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Sober Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 What do you call a cow with no legs? GROUND BEEF !!! :D :lol: :mad: :crazy: :king: :lick: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoefers Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Me? Anti-bombing? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/296.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/roller.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/fremont.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/freeway.jpg'> I guess I have been slacking lately. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 i agree with joncoltraine and ng...dalek seems to have only done legals, then now he aparently makes money off it, SI is a sick bomber...lens, you obvously have a fucked up veiw on graf because i remember a while ago you said "fuck old school writers" (talking about seen and others from style wars)....im not claiming to have all knowledge of graf and beef, but i know enough to know that dalek is a sellout and deservs to get dogged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoefers Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 The underlying point that me and Lens have is that everyone has a price. Why would you want to sit around having no money if you could make money off of something you are good at? SI is a grand bomber. But if someone offered him money to design shirts I bet he would. Why wouldnt you want a better life for you and your family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyWishes Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Besides if Si wasn't dissing Dalek someone else would. Beef and getting crossed are part of graf, everyone does it/has had it done to them. I bet Si isn't even doing it because Dalek's a sellout, I've seen that guy diss everybody. Si rocks!:king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avils Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by Shoefers Me? Anti-bombing? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/296.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/roller.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/fremont.jpg'> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/shoe1/freeway.jpg'> I guess I have been slacking lately. Oh well :nope: ohhh boy. stick to skating. ps they shouldnt be posted in this thread til theyre lined out... which wont be long by the looks of it :lol: cock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver+Black Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by LENS No, it's called jealousy. So what Dalek been at it only three years? Dude's style is tight and most of all DISTINCT. Dalek has drive, style and the savvy to put himself out there. It's like in Happy Gilmore when Happy tells Shooter McGavin "You know what the pathetic thing is? You've been doing this your whole life!" You know what, Dalek is laughing all the way to the bank while fools hate. Jon, you'd start crying if you had the chance to enjoy the success and money Dalek has now. FUckin Dalek is dope. 3 years? haha the bank? fucking happy gilmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobo knife Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by avils :nope: ohhh boy. stick to skating. ps they shouldnt be posted in this thread til theyre lined out... which wont be long by the looks of it :lol: cock too funny. but sooo true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by nG i don't seem...? your posts consist of nothing but assumptions and disses. fool. sorry if i thought you were cyber-vanquished, i guess you're one tough motherfucker. :lol: now please fuck off to Channel 0 and sell some prints to your buddies. are we friends now? Oh wait, sorry, I actually have aspirations to MAKE MONEY someday. That must make us enemies. Your shit is trite, cliched, uninspired and the product of a childish and immature mind riddled with holes from too much pretentious bullshit. Now please, kindly take your ideology and cram it right up your ass....sideways if it'll fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyLazy Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by Silver+Black fucking happy gilmore? is a great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban cowboy Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Originally posted by LENS Your shit is trite, cliched, uninspired and the product of a childish and immature mind riddled with holes from too much pretentious bullshit. Now please, kindly take your ideology and cram it right up your ass....sideways if it'll fit Sounds like the kinda thing the class geek would say when you bully him too much. Posh posh posh :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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