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enough with the hippies already!

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between my cousin and my girl ... i have started to like Phish. which is scary ... but they are talented and i like trippy shit. my girl is a hippie, my cousin somehow got into the music ... but he hates hippies. he was following phish for a few shows and asked me to make a shrit for him .. never did it but it would make me lauch my ass off if i saw it. it was going to be the Zest soap logo but have it say "soap dodger" god that would be classic !!

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if your that bothered about the shop, move!

 

seriously it cant be that bad kilo, i mean im sure the bars only a short walk away so youll always be able to drown the sorrows (or drown the hippies)

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you know I'm not going to move....

I'm just bitching. why the hell not?

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Originally posted by LENS

Vegan girls have about as much sexuality as a styrofoam cooler.

 

 

Haha! This thread is funny. I’ve vocalized my opinion on hippies to you many times, Kilo. I’d go on a rant right now, but then I’d get all riled up, and theres way too many things that have me stressed lately.

 

Fuck 2 face hippies, though. I like your leather couch story. You know what’s good, too? Cars and buses are run on fossil fuels. Animal by-product, no?

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Oh, and that statement by lens I quoted above – judging by past strictly by my own experience, I’d say it just might be true.

 

I hate starfish fucks like I hate beards that look like pubic hair and hippieocrytes that work at starbucks and big up their “fair-trade” policy.

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!@#$%'s hippie jokes had me rolling....

 

i can understand the occasional thing, but getting infuriated by certain "types" of people, especially ones as benign as hippies, should really be donewith by your early 20s... unless we're talking about conservatives... or mormons... or.... :)

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You guys kill me

 

I guess everybody gets to hate somebody, eh? From what I can tell, this board and pretty much every idea (or pretty close to every idea) I've ever seen expressed here is a direct descendant of the hippie movement of the late-'60s/ early-'70s.

 

Speaking in a very general sense, the hippie movement embraced:

 

1.) "Free Love"--sex without rigid marriage and monogamy. This was the forerunner of ALL of the sexual liberation movements, including the wide acceptance of people "co-habiting" without marrying, acceptance of "single-parent families," "women's liberation," "gay liberation," "polyamory" relationships. In 1964, only about 6% of white children were ever born "out of wedlock," and only about 20% or so of black kids. TODAY, it's a solid 25% of white kids and an astounding (to me) SEVENTY-EIGHT PER CENT of black children born to mothers who are not married. In 1964, everybody got married. Young. And they were supposed to STAY married--"no sex before marriage" was the norm, even in college. If an unmarried girl got pregnant, it was a terrible shame and a disaster--girls in this situation sometimes killed themselves. Abortion was almost unheard of, and usually only available in foreign countries, California or New York. (Mexican border cities typically had a large number of gynecological clinics.)

The "hippies" changed all that.

 

2.) "All-Volunteer Army." There was a UNIVERSAL military draft until close to the end of the Vietnam War (1972.) EVERYBODY either enlisted, or got drafted, or sweated out a student deferment, hoping that they would not get called up to military service before they could finish post-graduate studies. If a college kid attending junior college got a 2-year degree, he became instantly 1-A. If an 18-year-old boy flunked his senior year in high school--instantly 1-A, and straight to the Army infantry for two years. The hippies contributed a lot to the general anti-militarist, anti-war culture of the 1960's, and along with pissed-off college kids, formed the backbone of the anti-war movement that resulted in an All-Volunteer Army. So if you are glad you aren't getting scooped up and forced into the Army, thank the hippies. Believe me, we Republicans think you owe your country three years of military service, LOL. ("Good mooornning, IRAQ!")

 

3.) "Wide acceptance of alternative music, art, dance, etc. on public broadcast radio, TV and in the movies." This did not exist before the hippies. The beatniks were too introspective to make much headway outside of the New York/ San Francisco arena. Poerty, yeah. Popular music, no. Regular broadcast music was incredibly boring, and just about the only place you could find interesting modern music was on college-campus FM student stations and black late-night programs. Rock and roll was easy to find, but the only groups that got played until the late '60s were groups that could pass the smell test with the VERY conservative, mainstream program directors at radio stations. BOR-ing. Think "Guy Lombardo" and Muzak. Hippies changed all that. Have you ever watched really old movies on the Nostalgia Channel? That was regular TV and movies. Mostly, they sucked.

 

4.) "Cultural/Racial Tolerance." Shit, this barely exists now. The hippies were helping to some degree in the Civil Rights struggle of minority people, in integration of schools, in acceptance of inter-racial dating & marriage, and generally, in the idea that each person should be accepted for who s/he is, and not judged on race, religion, nationality, etc. The hippie movement was mostly white, but it crossed all racial and cultural boundaries. Here in Texas, there were "cowboy" hippies, black hippies, Latino hippies, etc. In 1969, I had long hair and wore a cowboy hat, boot-cut jeans and Tony Lama boots. "Southern Rock," like the Allman Brothers, .38 Special, Alabama, etc.--all from the hippie movement. Heavy Metal Rock was hippie music taken to it's logical conclusion. Steppenwolf, in my opinion, was the first "heavy metal" band.

 

5.) Modern motorcycle clubs-- the Hell's Angels, Bandidos, Moguls, Satan's Slaves, Coffin Cheaters, etc. are all a result of the blending of the old-style greaseball, ducktail haircut, black-leather-jacket motorcycle clubs of the 1950's, and the long-haired LSD movement. Read Ken Kesey's "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test." He talks about how the Merry Pranksters turned on the Hell's Angels to LSD for the first time, opening the doors to the whole "modern biker" era, Easyrider's Magazine, "yuppie" Harley riders, etc. None of this would have occurred without the hippies. Today, bikers are considered very American. In 1964, when they threw a party, the local authorities called the National Guard. Today's bikers are a major money-maker in Sturgis, N.D. In 1964, the local Sheriff would have arrested everybody in sight. Bikers were DANGEROUS CRIMINALS. Today, they are "symbolic of the free American spirit." Thank you, Ken Kesey.

 

6.)"Recreational drugs." We have a national problem with recreational drug use. I am opposed to people using drugs. However, before the hippie movement, very, very few people smoked marijuana, and never mind any other kinds of drugs. Not every contribution they made was a positive one.

 

7.) "Ecology movement." I attended the very first Earth Day celebration held in Houston, Texas, and all over the U.S. and in some foreign countries. It didn't even make the newspaper, but we partied on "the Hill" in Houston's Hermann Park all day, flying kites, playing music, putting up big rainbow banners and signs that said things like "You only get one planet---don't fuck it up!---God " Today, Earth Day is world wide, and the movement to conserve and protect the natural environment is very powerful. NOT SO in 1970. "Environmentalist" is a word everybody recognizes. Back in the day, it was "ecologist." Nobody wants the earth to be ruined, but also, nobody wants to give up all their luxuries like cars and toys and expensive lifestyle. The U.S. and western Europe use about 75% of the world's energy. And our lifestyle produces about 75% of the world's pollution, too. Do you care about the environment? Thank the hippies. In 1964, "environmentalists" could be counted in the hundreds, world-wide. Today, in the hundreds of millions.

 

Graffitti, along with just about everything else in the "youth culture" springs from a long history, but it definately came down through the political slogan graffiiti of the 1960's and unsanctioned public art graff of the late '70s. Graffitti goes back to the cave men days, but it was not too popular before the hippie movement and the anti-war movements of the '60s and '70s.

 

Don't like hippies? Be my guest. But you ought to recognize that just as one musical style is built on another, one cultural tendency is also built on another. You hip-hop guys need to go listen to BOB DYLAN'S "Subterranean Homesick Blues." Pure rap. Circa 1965. And also--"pure hippie."

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Originally posted by SteveAustin

BTW...I don't know you...or do I?

 

beats me... if your location is correct, i only know one writer from bloomington.

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I used to go to a lot of 'hippie' shows, theres a lot of talented musicians playin' that shit, but for me it was always about the drugs... I loved my drugs, now they're like a childhood friend, don't have much in common with them anymore but I still say what up when they pass my way... I guess I went from bands like Phish into some contemporary jazz musicians, and the old school heads of course... a little funk here and there, now its hip hop... just my .005 on that shit

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KaBar hit the nail on the head. hippies made great advances and showed the idea of power to the people works, when we band our ideas into action espically in large numbers.

 

fast forward 30 some years .... you still have kids trying to embrace this culture that occured so long ago. OK great ... they put forth wonderful ideas and good ways of living in many respects. what i see that makes me dislike many modern hippies today is the fact its mostly an image thing. within our culture we are often defined by how we appear. we learn to strive to be original and diffrent than one another so when people choose to be gothic to be on the fringe no suprise, but hippies ?? It just seems so wrong to emulate the image of a culture that had so many strong and bold ideas and not strive to further the movment or do so in a cultural climate not acceptaing of change(like today). to me the world we are in is on the oppisite side of the swing from the days of the 60's and 70's. its cool to conform and be just what people expect you to be, looking at whats brewing in pop culture now scares the fuck out of me. marketing thong underware to 9 year olds when they are looking at brittany spears, and the like, as role models. yikes.

 

Fuck False Hippies !!!! well for that matter Fuck False Anything !!!

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i personally agree with kabar, however:

 

Q) how many hippies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A) none, when it burns out they just follow it around for a few years.

:cool: :cool: :cool:

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Originally posted by LENS

 

Girl bitches at Jeff, calling him a facist and "animal mixer" (wtf?!?). Stomps off.

 

Man, i've never seen a vegan get so mad. They are about the most humorless individuals on the face of the planet. Vegan girls have about as much sexuality as a styrofoam cooler.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

animal mixer...:D

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Vegan girls have about as much sexuality as a styrofoam cooler.

 

I'd have to disagree with that.

Well from my very limited experience with vegan girls.

(ok.. just one. but she was super hot and did nude modeling)

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1964 Dodge Power Wagon U.S. Army Ambulance

 

Once I answered an ad in the L.A. Times to buy a 1964 Dodge Power Wagon U.S. Army ambulance. I was in the Marines, I thought it would be cool to own an old 4x4 "MASH" style ambulance.

I drove up to Colton with my girlfriend to check it out. IT WAS GREAT. The original olive-drab paint was still on it. All original engine and drive train (a lot of them got converted to a diesel or a V-8, because that model "straight six" 6-cylinder Dodge engine was kind of gutless.) The interior on those old ambulances was originally painted white (hospital white) but this one had a WONDERFUL, INCREDIBLY DETAILED HIPPIE MURAL painted in day-glo colors all over the stretcher bay in the back. The seller told me that he and his wife had bought it from this old gray-haired hippie in the mountains of Northern California, and the guy had lived in it for years. His only request was that they swear they would not paint over his mural, and that they require any future purchaser to swear that they also would not paint over it.

I was more than willing to agree, but who in hell would be soulless enough to paint over something so unique and beautiful? It had thousands of intricate little black-light designs that completely covered everything in the back--walls and ceiling. It must have taken literally, YEARS of work, all done with an incredibly small, fine pointed paint brush.

I wanted to buy it in the worst way, but the price was more than I had to spend, and my girlfriend, with whom I lived, was dead-set against it. She didn't care how groovy it was, it was a fifteen-year-old military surplus relic with bald G.I. tires, a worn engine and rust. Sorry, no sale.

 

I've regretted it ever since. I wonder who has it now? Wish it was me.

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power wagons are dope without a doubt....but fuck...if I have to hear that line about free spirit...masking the general lack of desire to actually do anything...I'm gonna fucking lose it.

 

kilo...if you've managed to find any hippie girl repellant...be sure to send some my way.

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food tastes shitty, the population is reaching an unsustainable level, people are more wasteful than ever, and mainstream everything sucks. i'm pretty sure of one thing, it's not hippies who caused it. and just because a person looks (or smells) a certain way doesn't make them anything. i know one thing, most people are confused, and nobody knows everything.

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^^ha-ha...only problem is...something like that looks way beyond ironic or sarcastic on me. If I actually sported that...they'd probably come up to me and ask where I dumped the body.

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^ well 'Staustin'... looks like your just going to have to live with it.

 

I suppose you could try littering infront of them.

I always pocket my garbage untill I find a trashcan,

but I'd be willing to let a few pieces of paper or the wraper

from a pack of smokes hit the floor if it would bother a hippy.

(but I'd pick it up later when they were of saving whales)

 

 

So here's yet another damn hippy story...

 

My friend and I were at a birthday party and we thought it would

be really fun to huff hellium ballons and freestly like Quasimoto.

After a few rounds this girl walks up all stinking of patcholi and roasted

banana peels and she insists on knocking on a drum next to us.

We she entirely fucked the flow and I think she realised that, so she

goes on full 'hippy-damage-control' and starts telling us both just how

poetic we are. My friend was laughing because he got to watch me hold

back to keep from hurting this hippy's feelings. damn manners!

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