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what is up with some blac people now aday

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the fact of the matter is some black people are ignorant and some aren't..just like every other race..some are and some aren't don't label all black people cause of one thing you see or hear it's pointless...

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is this the same mapo that was posting on here a while ago pretending to be black??.......

 

what a fucken clown.

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im black, and i cant stand it when people try to make every little thing into a racial issue...

 

 

i've learned that its an easy way to get what you want when you are around a lot of white people and everyone is careful about what they say to you. I used to use it a lot when i was a little kid

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dave chapelle

 

"now everybody in here knew that right when you walked throught the God darn door....you're gonna want some chicken"

 

"look at him..he loves it."

 

"just like it said in the encyclopedia"

 

"that nigger was on PCP Johnson, i had to use force"

 

"just sprinkle some crack on him and lets get outa here"

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Re: dave chapelle

 

Originally posted by willy.wonka

"now everybody in here knew that right when you walked throught the God darn door....you're gonna want some chicken"

 

"look at him..he loves it."

 

"just like it said in the encyclopedia"

 

"that nigger was on PCP Johnson, i had to use force"

 

"just sprinkle some crack on him and lets get outa here"

sometimes he gets out of hand but dave C. is just like mostlt all the comedians iv'e ever heard that uses there own race to make jokes because it makes them look funnier..garbage..funny but garbage..

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MY neighbor and his daughter are building bikes, another neighbor is growing orchids, and the across the street neighbors fight alot.

thats whats up with some black people in my hood now aday!

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Originally posted by NOUM

fuck ali g..i heard he was more racist than tommy hilfiger will ever be..

 

You blithering bafoon! Can't you tell he is taking the piss out stupid white wigger boys like tease. You probably can't, because you are one.

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Since Mapo's so eager to hear me speak, and Im bored, Ill respond to the stupidity here. First of all, my apologies for cussing you out, I get my feelings get the best of me, especially ignorant comments you make.In all honesty, I choose to get extreme on people like you mapo, because of the extreme narrowminded view you take, I guess to shake you up a bit. I'm not as much as an extremist as you think, I generally prefer the middle of the mindset i.e yes racism still fucks people up A LOT, but people also should be held accountable for their actions. I choose to act a little loco to shake some sense into you, or vent my anger. After all the bullshit I have had to put up with for being brown, I have no tolerance for morons who dont recognize how far we are from a racially equal society.

 

I recognize most black people dont live in the ghetto(except the ones I know) bla bla bla. But that wasnt what I meant fool.You obviously need a dose of the hardships and fucked up reality many black(fuck just black,poor) folks face daily if youre blind to the reality that a majority of blacks face in our urban areas(and rural). You constantly talk shit about affirmative action, which has benefitted tons of nonwhites, and also refuse to see that there STILL is discrimination which is still fucking people over on a major scale. Im not gonna break that down, if you want more read my other posts in other discussion on the matter of how racism still exists. If you really want, I can give you the names of a few good books and authors.

Now, on the subject of what good I do for my community, and just people in general, Me and my wife started and run a nonprofit organization that teaches art to kids in east and south LA, we train them, find them wall space, and then they help me paint murals in the more blighted spots of our city. We also are expanding into tree planting and construction of projects that raise the quality of life here in the less serviced parts of LA. Our goal is to start a mural/art program in all the local highschools on the east and south sides, as well as building several rec centers and buying parcels of land to build small urban parks and playgrounds. Im also going to school for urban planning because I would like to expand LA's subway system, which is pathetic for the size of this city.

 

On the subject of my fellow papagos. There is no logic in defending the borders of a country that killed your own on a massive scale. Furthermore the US only gave this tribe the most fucked up land in Arizona, and recently sold a huge piece(violating many treaties) to a mining company without tribal consent. So yeah, I do think theyre behaving quite stupidly. But I cant knock these guys for earning their food, I just dont agree with it. Especially the fact that the people they catch have the same skin tone as themselves, It reminds me of when tribes would help out the europeans fight rival tribes, not much thought into the big picture. Also a good chunk of the tribal land they had to FIGHT to get is fucked up fro mining and nuclear tests, so fuck the US govt. My grandfather fought in WW2 only to come home and be treated like shit from anglo america, he taught me to never to forget the bullshit us brown people go through, even if I aint stepping in it myself. Just because a couple of thousand black and brown people have wealth, doesnt mean racism doesnt exist.

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EASI

 

My opinion take it for what it is worth

 

 

 

 

You obviously need a dose of the hardships and fucked up reality many black(fuck just black,poor)

 

you said it; its not about being black, its about being poor.

 

 

 

 

affirmative action

 

Yeah its really fair that up to 50% of the reason certain kids got into my school is because of the color of their skin. Too bad for the poor white kid who had to grow up in the same community deal with the same hardships and received the same education.

 

 

 

 

and about the indians

 

I think its pretty shitty what the American government did when they reneged on all those treaties, but to be honest people have been snatching land forever....because you really can't own land forever, you have it till someone bigger pushes you away.

 

 

 

Especially the fact that the people they catch have the same skin tone as themselves

 

wtf, just because someone is the same skin tone you should be sympethic to them and let them break laws?

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KEttiecat and anyone else who deems it necessary for them to speak about affirmative action. PLEASE READ about it, and learn what affirmative action really is. Out of around 100 points, being a minority gets you 1 extra point on your aptitude rating, like being in the yearbook staff, had a parent who is alumni(which is ridiculous), being poor, having divorced parents, etc. these are all things that give you 1more point when they decide if theyll accept you. So affirmative action is NOT waht lets people into colleges. Now on that subject, our public education system is extremely Eurocentric, that why we learn a grip about rome and europe and little if anything about muslims(who had a big hand in molding european beliefs and technology) africa, american civilizations, asia, etc. In psychology, there is a common shared belief that this kind of educational alienation produces apathy for education, ie not caring about school.

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Originally posted by Esai

KEttiecat and anyone else who deems it necessary for them to speak about affirmative action. PLEASE READ about it, and learn what affirmative action really is. Out of around 100 points, being a minority gets you 1 extra point on your aptitude rating, like being in the yearbook staff, had a parent who is alumni(which is ridiculous), being poor, having divorced parents, etc. these are all things that give you 1more point when they decide if theyll accept you. So affirmative action is NOT waht lets people into colleges.

 

 

 

I didn't say all schools. But at U of M out of 100 you get 25 for being a minority and then you start adding on other shit like being female, being poor, blah blah blah, all things which have NOTHING to do with whether ot not you should be admitted into a university.

 

 

I don't see why it is necessary for anything more than transcripts, an essay or two, a list of clubs, and mabe some letters from current teachers to figure out who to admit. Telling me you're a minority tells me nothing about you.

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Originally posted by SKUMBALUCKAH

You blithering bafoon! Can't you tell he is taking the piss out stupid white wigger boys like tease. You probably can't, because you are one.

sorry to disapoint you you fucking loser but i'm black and like i said fuck ali g..fuking biget..

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Props to your organization. I think thats excellent.

 

Ill start with the papagos. Since illegal immigration is a big time issue with me and Im quite knowledgable on it. First of all, let me say I am VERY, whole-heartedly, with every fiber of my being - against illegals coming over here. To the point where I have written my congressmen, representatives, etc. I will support with my vote, campaign donations, or anything necessary - any politician willing to fight illegal immigration.

 

Michelle Malkin, rote an excellent book on the topic called 'INVASION - How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces to Or Shores'. Check out the book on why illegal immigration is a bad thing.

 

The Indian tribes should (and Im sure they are) be proud of what theyre doing. Just because the European settlers fucked them over (and Im glad you point out it wasnt just Europeans but other tribes as well), doesnt mean you shouldnt help fight injustice. It doesnt mean you should sit back and say 'fuck america, i want this country to rot'.

 

I cant believe you would even say its bad since the people they catch are the same skin tone. Unbelievable. Who cares about skin tone?

Theyre not the same heritage. Would it be the same injustice if white cops didnt arrest white people because of their same skin tone?

I wont go on too much more about illegal immigration since that deserves its own thread. Although maybe someone should start one since I can go on and on about it.

 

I dont like affirmative action for a few reasons. I think it puts a stigma on black college students and the teachers and students will think they only got in for being a minority. Instead of seeing a black person in a college and think they must be smart - they think its because hes black.

I think it actually creates more racial tension at college and makes it worse for the black students.

 

I also want the most qualified people in the job force. What if Im sent to the hospital or taken to court - and I get a doctor/nurse/public defender who was accepted into college, and hired, just to fill quota? I want the most competant people available in that situation.

 

Also I think it fucks over alot of poor whites. I think the rich, preppy, frat-boy white kid with the modified Accord and rich parents will get into college regardless. Its the white kids without alot of means and clout who will get rejected because of affirmative action. They simply wont get in or hired based on skin color. And isnt that what affirmative action is trying to fight against?

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is it legal to apply to a college without marking down your race? i'd like to get into college based on merit alone.

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Originally posted by destroya

is it legal to apply to a college without marking down your race? i'd like to get into college based on merit alone.

 

true..i thought about that whole race thing on applications..why are they there?..what are they really there for?..

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Hey mapo, maybe we can keep an intelligent discussion as long as we both cool off. Anyways, Im tired so my statement will be sloppy. First of all, illegal is a term for fireworks, guns and drugs, not people. By starting off with that word, youre immediately objectifying real people, not some disease. Secondly, many of those people are basically coming into a land that was stolen a century ago from them, which automatically makes this border bullshit in my opinion. Secondly, most of these places these immigrants come from are extremely poor, a economic state produced by large companies exploiting defenseless people for their resources. Remember, these people never knew extreme poverty until the last century or 2(unless there was a drought), when europeans and then american companies began exploiting them. In mexico(this is just one of many examples), they force farmers to sell their wheat at bullshit prices, prices artificially set by large american food companies, so they can barely afford to survive. they then turn around and sell these products to mexicans at superinflated prices, putting them at an extreme economic disadvantage. The same happens with the cotton industry in Peru, all thanks to crooked politicos and greedy companies. Also, if you read US history in the americas, the US has put in a lot of effort to squash any left leaning govt that has kicked out large exploitive companies, the last one was venezuela a few months ago. many times these govts where democratically elected, and the US opted for tyranny and dictators. In fact, chile wants to extradite henry kissinger for war crimes in that country. So basically, Im saying the US has taken great pains to keep big companies exploiting Latinos, no matter what the price. I dont know if intentional, but another product of this, other than cheap resources, is a large exploitable population which equals cheap labor, which is why NAFTA has been pumped up in the last decade, its just legal pimpin in the americas dog. Now also, the border is a recent phenomenom, which is a scapegoat used by the politicians during economic hardships. Up until the 60's the US was shipping mexicans into the southwest by train to work the fields because americans wouldnt pay high prices for produce, look into the bracero programs and operation wetback(which was a real name for a govt program). Which leads me to my biggest point of all. How do you think produce is so cheap- ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LABOR. How do you think 95% of construction companies exist-mexican construction workers and masons here ILLEGALLY. How do you think the american garment industry still exists-immigrant labor. If it wasnt for these ILLEGALS, you'd be paying 2 bucks for an apple and just about everything else. Look in the back of most restaraunts and youll find a few mexicans providing cheap labor which is the lifeblood of small business. Now this isnt my opinion, economists far and wide contribute immigrant labor as the glue that keeps america from crumbling, from washing you clothes to cooking your food. This is why eastern europeans, black slaves, chinese coolies, and now illegal aliens are tolerated TO PROVIDE CHEAP LABOR. We live in a super rich country which has the money and technology to pretty much stop 99% of illegal migration, but they never really stop the problem because it would freeze our economy. So these policians will kick up dust about them damn illegals to move the attention away from their own incompetence, or any real reason why people are getting poorer, like the fact that in the last couple decades the majority of wealth has been quickly been consolidated and hoarded by the nations tiny elite population. They whine about immigrants stealing our jobs, without any mention of the multibillion dollar companies that reap these profits. and if it wasnt for the fact that millions hop the border to come here and fill these jobs, these companies would quickly pack their bags and open up plants south of the border, In fact thay are doing this at a lightning fast rate, thanks to our govt and nafta. So actually, you should be thanking these "illegals" rather than complaining about them, or else you'd pay 100$ for a tshirt, 2$ for a carrot, and the house you live in would probably never had been built due to high costs of labor. Not to mention $50 burgers at your local fast food joint. I got all my facts from sociological and university studies, not some whiny hippy. But I feel that youshould probably look up the connections and history of this book author you mention, you might find out he is funded by conservative think tanks and big industry who make $$ off these immigrants. I just dont see much logic in the demonization of illegal immigrants, it's the scapegoat of the naive.

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Just because things suck in Mexico doesnt give anyone the right to come here. Like Michelle Malkin, the author of the book and daughter of LEGAL immigrants points out - American citizenship is a privelige not a right.

 

I believe in fixing things within your own country. You dont run away.

You protest, you go on strike, you vote for someone else, and as a last resort - you overthrow your government. Thats why this country is great - because people dont run somewhere else when times get hard. Black people didnt run away - we fought for rights and respect in this country.

Same with the Jews.

 

There has always been the debate that illegals provide cheap labor and also help the economy with their consumption.

 

But you cant just look at the hardworking illegal aliens. What about the ones who come over here, commit crimes, and end up in jail? The US taxpayer has to feed them, give them a cell, etc.

The DC sniper kid was an illegal.

 

What about the ones who come here with diseases and spread them?

 

Or like in the case of Jessica Santillan and her mother, both illegals, come over here and get free medical treatment and organs - ahead of Americans who need them? Check out the web site below.

I actually printed out the card, laminated it, and keep it in my wallet.

I refuse to let an illegal alien get my organs. Once there is some way I can make the determination that only American citizens get my organs I will become an organ donor.

http://www.geocities.com/xxjoeamericaxx/gu...4americans.html

 

What about the ones who are on welfare? And/or dont pay any taxes?

 

I have no problem with people coming over here. But you must do it legally. You have to get a criminal background check - blood test to find diseases, etc.

 

Some websites you can check out are www.michellemalkin.com and www.stoptheinvasion.com theres also good debate on the issue at alt.politics.immigration

 

But respond here because im interested in your thoughts of the 'bad' illegals.

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Oh for the love of...

 

Originally posted by mapo returns

Just because things suck in Mexico doesnt give anyone the right to come here. Like Michelle Malkin, the author of the book and daughter of LEGAL immigrants points out - American citizenship is a privelige not a right.

 

Yeah, according to the meaningless system of land division that the elites of the world have devised to keep you enslaved. And if you are relying on the approval of some made-up government state created by a bunch of rich slaveholding bastards to justify your existence on this continent, then you are STILL a pathetic slave.

 

As far as the "black" thing goes, its irrelevant if all the original slaves and slaveholders are dead or not, because the current distribution of power and wealth in this country is STILL inherited from the days when chattel slavery was a reality. But slavery isnt the only issue...up through the 60s, your precious govt. legally sanctioned jim crow laws, lynchings, burnings, false imprisonment, and the assasinations of black leaders, and it continues to opress black communities through police brutality and the deliberate dumping of toxic waste. If you are truly black mapo, you should be ashamed to the core of your weak-minded little soul.

 

Peace to esai though--you seem like the only intelligent head in this whole forum.

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