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ÀEL GRINGO?

S22? "rave act"

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why would anyone support this law???and skydancer666 you are a moron,you're trying to fit into a group just like everyone else you say you dont like society,but i bet you'd be lost if you didnt have your str8 edge friends telling you what to believe in....the only people who suck are str8 edge losers like you,who do nothing but complain and force bad music down each others throats,and walk around thinking you're some kind of punk rockers..

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This is about all gatherings and live music, not just raves

 

this guy took a crack house law and turned it around to make club owners responsible for the drugs their patrons may use while in their establishments..it makes them responsible for the patrons actions..

 

this is not any good because who the fuck wants to throw a party if they might be criminally liable for something some jerk decides to do, like o.d.

 

and we all know one jerk can ruin it for everyone

 

it is ridiculous to think that this law is constituional..

and the assholes had it tacked onto Amber Alert so their was no way it would get defeated

 

our rights are slipping away...no one cares

 

 

 

 

No one raving over Biden bill

 

By NICK ANDERSON

Los Angeles Times

04/17/2003

 

His controversial proposal to crack down on all-night dance parties where illegal drugs are used or sold is on the brink of becoming law, but Sen. Joe Biden insists he's not out to stop the music.

 

At issue is a bill -- once known as the "RAVE Act" -- that has drawn fire from civil liberties groups and grass-roots activists as an unfair attack on the events, popular with teenagers and young adults, where Ecstasy is a common ingredient.

 

The Delaware Democrat's proposal went nowhere last year in either the House or Senate. But this year he renamed it the "Illicit Drug Non-Proliferation Act" and slipped it into a larger crime bill during a House-Senate conference. The bill cleared Congress last week, and President Bush has said he will sign it.

 

"The reason I introduced this bill was not to ban dancing, kill 'the rave scene' or silence electronic music - all things of which I have been accused," Biden told the Senate last week. "In no way is this bill aimed at stifling any type of music or expression. It is only trying to deter illicit drug use and protect kids."

 

Biden's maneuver was little-noticed when Congress overwhelmingly approved the crime bill. The main sections of the legislation would expand the "Amber alert" interstate network aimed at catching child abductors and impose stiff penalties on child sex offenders and other criminals.

 

But some lawmakers, including members of Biden's own party, were upset at the impending enactment of a measure that, by itself, had never been voted on in either the House or the Senate. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a senior member of the House Judiciary Committee, voted against the final version of the crime bill after having previously supported it. Frank said he switched to protest Biden's provision.

 

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, voted for the final bill but also expressed concerns. Biden's measure, Leahy said, "has drawn serious grass-roots opposition. And I know that I am not alone in hearing from many constituents about their serious, and well-considered, objections to it." The measure should have been given "a fuller hearing," Leahy said.

 

The Biden measure revises a 1986 law holding owners of crack houses criminally responsible if they knowingly allow their property to be used by drug makers or dealers.

 

Under the new measure, the crack house law would be expanded to include properties used or rented for temporary or one-time events. Violators -- who could include event promoters and property owners or managers -- would face prison terms or civil fines of $250,000 or twice the gross revenue of an event, whichever is greater.

 

When he introduced the bill, Biden said he was targeting "club drugs" such as Ecstasy, which are often found at raves, concerts and other events frequented by teenagers. He said the measure would help drug enforcement agents, who have sought to crack down on users and dealers at such venues.

 

Biden said his measure sets a "high bar" for prosecuting offenses and does not punish owners or promoters who follow the law. But critics said the measure ignores the efforts of club owners and event promoters to deter illegal drug use by their patrons. They also said the measure would trample on constitutionally protected free expression if it forces the promoters to cancel events rather than risk prosecution or steep fines.

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Guest sneak
Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del

i was going to say something, but i forgot if it was Sneak or Swif1 who was the hardcore butterfly raver.

 

:looks at swif:

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Originally posted by SkyDancer666

hafuckinha. i just read up on that. so cool. i stand in full support of that. not because i'm a straight edge asshole, which i am, but because i hate plastic pants and candy necklaces. i saw a goth kid today and pushed him into a wall. he was like 'what the fuck dude' and i told him to say another word to me. he walked away. it was funny. and yes, i pushed him based on the fact that he was a 'gothique' indivudual. goths and ravers are the same in my eyes. worthless drains upon a society that is already burdened with so much. so are most people for that matter. the words 'A PROFOUND HATRED OF MAN" run down my left forearm. i don't like society much. nor myself for that matter.

in conclusion s22 sucks. because if less ravers are doing drugs. less ravers are dying. and well, need i say more?

 

Bet you thinkkk your tuff for pushin some ecstasy addected fiend into a wall.. id like to knoc you in your jaw then see how tuff u are

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I saw swif the other day, all candy ravered out listening to testio in his iroc.

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Originally posted by wrkr

I saw swif the other day, all candy ravered out listening to testio in his iroc.

 

yah...hes exactly like that.............

 

:rolleyes:

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good—they're just trying to help young people who don't know any better. if you're that pathetic that you need the rave experience/ecstacy to get sex then you might as well get a job and start supporting prostitutes with your friday paychecks. if it's the music that moves you learn to play an instrument.

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Originally posted by wrkr

I saw swif the other day, all candy ravered out listening to testio in his iroc.

 

did he have a hot pink soother in his mouth

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Re: This is about all gatherings and live music, not just raves

 

Originally posted by !@#$%

this is not any good because who the fuck wants to throw a party if they might be criminally liable for something some jerk decides to do, like o.d.

 

our rights are slipping away...no one cares

 

I'm glad that someone gained something from this, I miss old 12oz... :spent:

 

 

... oh yea, and for the record I'm not a raver nor have I ever been to a rave

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Guest krie

move to the land down underrr

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Originally posted by krie

move to the land down underrr

 

Australia huh? I dunno if I could deal with accents if Crocadile Dundee was for real. Whats Australia like? Give me the low down on this place you call "Kangaroo Land". Oh yea, and if you life out of the city do you have kangaroos and koalas and shit running through your back yard because if so I think that would be enough for me to move there... Any skiing or mountains down under?

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hafuckinha. i'm making friends all over the place.

a. push me, then you will see how tough i really am.

b. pushing that kid wasn't to prove how tough i was, it was to show that kid that he wasn't nearly as tough as he thought.

c. my sxe friends tell me what to do? riiight. thats why out of everyone i run w/ 2 are sxe? thats why my gf gets all kinds of fucked up when we go to parties? because my sxe stance was diff than my 'friends' i quit my old crew? find some basis before a bold fucking claim like that. if you're gonna judge edge kids like that then you'd better step the fuck away from my stereotype comments on goths and stupid fucking candy kids.

d. about half of my highschool friends were ravers, even a couple candy kids.

e. the entire initial post was a fucking joke. pure sarcasm. apparently most of you missed that.

 

 

no life on this planet is worth fighting for. we all deserve death. candies. goths. hc kids. probably especially hc kids. punks. whatever the fuck clique you claim on. or if you're too fucking intellectual for 'labels'. you all fucking suck. die.

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....... hc kids. probably especially hc kids. punks. whatever the fuck clique you claim on. or if you're too fucking intellectual for 'labels'. you all fucking suck. die.

 

you preety much covered everything, what category do u fall under?

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Originally posted by SkyDancer666

a. push me, then you will see how tough i really am.

b. pushing that kid wasn't to prove how tough i was, it was to show that kid that he wasn't nearly as tough as he thought.

 

 

Ahahahahahahaha.

 

So you push the goth kid, to show him he wasn't so tough, then go on about how tough you really are. What's gonna happen one day when a big goth with a shiv in his pocket decides to push you, to show you you're not nearly as tough as you think you are. You're nothing but a bigot. If you honestly don't care about anybody else, then why are you trying to push your beliefs onto everyone? Do the world a favour son, and shoot yourself in the head. Nazi faggot.

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You're calling him a bigot and at the same time calling him a faggot? Well your nothing more than a fucking ignorant hypocrite so shut the fuck and stop proceeding with your stupidity... both of you

 

:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by ¿EL GRINGO?

I said fuck this stupid bullshit... I'm moving to Canada

 

It's not much better than the US sad to say-here they don't outlaw you, they just have so many fees/charges etc... that it's about 10,000$ to throw a party.

Hmmm...I don't understand all of the people hating on candy ravers. They are a very small fraction of people that go to raves and most of them are pretty cool people once you get around the clothes. I also think it's pretty damn ignorant to hate someone because of the size of their pants/color of their makeup/amount of bracelets. Too junior high for me.

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