ILYSH Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 get the fuck out of here..... http://www.graffiti.org/piano33/piano33p6160020.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray finkle Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Originally posted by 5ive0ero2wo you cant leave out DALEK when talking about innovative styles... always just seemed kinda like giant but couldnt draw as good... then got progressively fruitier, then hopped on the cloud train. then the never really bombed much "graffiti artist in a gallery" cult. but maybe thats just me.. ? nothing personal at all, just never struck me as anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILYSH Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 bump this because nobody has commented on one of the oddest innovations yet. piano 33, czech, ganked from artcrimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelchef Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 bump, plus go to the almost bottom of page 2- i just updated some ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeeeegh Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 AAGH! Crew, Bristol. Sorry 'bout the size... http://www.graffiti.org/aagh/aagh02.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/aagh/aaghphet.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/aagh/aaghphet_march0372.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/aagh/aaghjago.jpg'> Stolen from www.graffiti.org/aagh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wade23 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 .....graf needs more innovation like this shit. hellafresh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatlaces Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 vlad do you have any more flix from thaat shp crew or whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Originally posted by Vlad from spe6men.com http://spe6men.graffiti.free.fr/tof/charleroi_fre_she1atwo.jpg'> :lick: :yum: Beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted June 4, 2003 Author Share Posted June 4, 2003 ^^Fatlaces i think that was all i could find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted June 4, 2003 Author Share Posted June 4, 2003 TSH http://spe6men.graffiti.free.fr/tof/niort02_fre-tsh1.jpg'> http://spe6men.graffiti.free.fr/tof/niort02_fre-tsh2.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Originally posted by ShitFuck holy shit, that 3 piece production is fucking bonkers.. who painted it? its not just three pieces. There is waaaaay more to that prodo. The new graphotism has it in there. Its a long ass wall, and very big in size. someone should post it up, its dope! I wish I could see it in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Kema http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/kemaonerokski.jpg'> Bhope http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/mudtour.jpg'> Dephect http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/dephect.jpg'> http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/dephect2.jpg'> Elk http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/elk.jpg'> Sonik http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/sonik_redhouse.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Amazingly dope stuff Pilau.... is that the wall Elk did with Joker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WebsterUno Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 now thats DOPE! carving your name in the earth! whats up with dat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatyervegetablz Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 maybe some things are lost when it actually has to read? in the US, it been the standard to really understand letters (tags to throw to straight letters) and then try the newness, i guess what you call "innovation" (this DOES need a definition...). I see the beauty in well-formed letters, and then even more with letters blossoms into true wildstyles. in architecture, theres a saying "form follows function". i dont believe this, bc i see both form and function are equally important, and subject to high standards as seperates. a pieces' function is to read a word, right? a lot of these pieces dont "function" to me... anyhoo, hope this makes any difference somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonisms Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 can we please stop with the posts starting with "in the us..." or "in europe..." I completely agree with the form and function point you made (in architecture though, a building serves a purpose - i.e. it can look really cool, but can people live in it? etc...) graff and most art in general has a purpose of being pleasing to someones eye, and evoking an emotion, so i dont think comparison of the two (architecture and art) in the sense you were talking about is really an accurate point. dont get me wrong architecture is an art, but paintings on a wall are somewhat like apples and oranges. speaking of apples and oranges, and getting back to what I was originally saying...like form and function the us and europe are two different states of graff...yes they have their similarities but the seperation of cultures (which is rapidly diminishing dues to globalization, but im not gonna get into that) prohibit a true connection between the two places. each state of graffiti has born different style, which is inevitable with a huge damn lake seperating the masses of land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beardo Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 "form follows function". i dont believe this, bc i see both form and function are equally important, and subject to high standards as seperates. a pieces' function is to read a word, right? a lot of these pieces dont "function" to me... anyhoo, hope this makes any difference somewhere. not necessarily. readability might not (obviously) be the artists intention. that doesnt mean it doesnt have form and function (which could be anything, not just its existance as a 'word'). i know the function of my work is how one letter relates and reacts to the one following it, and how it gets you there. being able to read the ultimate outcome isnt the goal. i think, as usual, it comes down to personal taste. what you desire as function differs from what i desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crave Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 tight flix and knowledge, sprinkle here and there...good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelchef Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Re: maybe some things are lost when it actually has to read? http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/Corbu/savoye1.jpg'> villa savoye, by le corbusier Originally posted by eatyervegetablz in the US, it been the standard to really understand letters (tags to throw to straight letters) and then try the newness, i guess what you call "innovation" (this DOES need a definition...). I see the beauty in well-formed letters, and then even more with letters blossoms into true wildstyles. in architecture, theres a saying "form follows function". i dont believe this, bc i see both form and function are equally important, and subject to high standards as seperates. a pieces' function is to read a word, right? a lot of these pieces dont "function" to me... anyhoo, hope this makes any difference somewhere. by your standards then, this building is not functional. to the architect, it is. his intention was to create a piece of art (and then some) within the built environment, not a liveable space for people. (as far as i know, this building is uninhabited). the building has form, and is also functional based on the ARCHITECTS standards. (what beardo was saying) i guess this is where "innovative styles" come into play? the functionality depends moreso on the artist's intentions than they do in other more conventional forms of graffiti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I think one thing that people don't often get is that some or your favorite "innovative" artists love letters, and put a lot of work into them. If you had the opportunity to sit down with some of these people and they showed you their letters...it's amazing. It might not be your particular favorite style, but it's there. Even though readability might not be the goal of the artist, seeing their train of thought and being able to pick out their letters from then on, adds something to the enjoyment of the piece. What makes a good letter? I mean at some point if it looks like an L and you say it's an M...you'll get the gasface. But it's a thin line.. [between love and hate] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelchef Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 howdy, pilau ---> thanks SO MUCH for letting me stay at your house, (like 1 year ago??).. can we get some more dephect and b.hope up in this? anyone? by the look of things, (or quantity of pieces posted) kema is the most innovative dude up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 howdy, pilau ---> thanks SO MUCH for letting me stay at your house, (like 1 year ago??).. it ain't no thing first time i met and painted with kema. still one of my favorites http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/the_occurance.jpg'> bhope http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/paris2.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacingDemons Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 All these Europeans think their so inovative... ...Hot AMERICAN sauce for your mind... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/219781/Rebeltruck.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beardo Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 way too much kema work in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pilau Hands Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 way too much kema work in this thread stop hating on him dude. just battle him and let the walls do the jibba-jabba hater:heated: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogilny Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 bump for some ill flicks............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Originally posted by beardo way too much kema work in this thread Are you kidding me? My favorite Kema piece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHOGENIC Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00316454f00000014.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00316454f00000015.jpg'> http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00316454f00000016.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLACKO Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 NOT FOR NOTHING AND IM SURE EVERYONE WILL JUST IGNORE THIS COMMENT BUT IF YOU CANNOT READ IT FOR SHIT LIKE 95% OF THIS SHIT IT MAY LOOK FUCKING AWESOME BUT IT ISNT GRAFF SORRY TO TELL YOU BUT ITS ART ON A WALL DONE WITH SPRAY ENAMEL (OR HOWEVER AN ARTIST WOULD SAY IT ON ONE OF THOSE LITTLE WHITE CARDS NEXT TO THE ART IN THE MUSEUM) KEMA JOKER ETC..ALL FUCKING BEAUTIFUL I LOVE TO LOOK AT IT BUT MAN I CANNOT ACCEPT IT AS GRAFF WHEN IT JUST LOOKS LIKE COLORFORMS... I THINK OF IT LIKE THIS.IF YOUR GOAL WAS TO PAINT A STILL LIFE PAINTING OF ANYTHING AND YOU THREW SOME PAINT AT A CANVAS AND SAID ITS YOURE PERSPECTIVE ON SAID SUBJECT..THATS COOL IT MAY LOOK GREAT BUT IT ISNT A PAINTING OF SAID SUBJECT. GET WHAT I MEAN? ANYHOW PROPS TO ALMOST EVERYTHING IN THIS THREAD FOR MAKING ME STARE FOR A WHILE AND ENJOY THE SCENERY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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