KABARS THREAD.

[S@T@N]

^^ Wow. Nice job.

 

Props to the Kizzabizzar.

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[BUCK FUSH]

kabar please clear this one up

 

im relativley unversed in the ways of the anarchist, but i believe i have a good handle on the communist manifesto. at one point you said an archist would invite his anarchist friend to live in a communist society(paraphrasing). anyway my undertstanding is that anarchism and communism are polar opposites. communism has thus far been proven to be a government that controls everything economy, religion, laws etc, which is different than what the manifesto set out for but, i thought that anarachism was a hands off almost no government at all policy. i dont know maybe because the only "anarchists" i know are whiny little high schoolers who think that if you like punk rock than you have to be an "anarchist," which ultimatly means theyll stich an "A" on their bag and not know what the hell it means...just hoping you could drop some knowledge and clarify

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Re: kabar please clear this one up

 

Originally posted by BUCK FUSH

im relativley unversed in the ways of the anarchist, but i believe i have a good handle on the communist manifesto. at one point you said an archist would invite his anarchist friend to live in a communist society(paraphrasing). anyway my undertstanding is that anarchism and communism are polar opposites. communism has thus far been proven to be a government that controls everything economy, religion, laws etc, which is different than what the manifesto set out for but, i thought that anarachism was a hands off almost no government at all policy. i dont know maybe because the only "anarchists" i know are whiny little high schoolers who think that if you like punk rock than you have to be an "anarchist," which ultimatly means theyll stich an "A" on their bag and not know what the hell it means...just hoping you could drop some knowledge and clarify

there is so much more to communism than goverment control.

 

it would work quite ideally in a small society.. like standed on a desert island or something.. kind of like in lord of the flies.. but they fucked that up.

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Pro People Control of the Cash and Corporationsalist.

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[KaBar]

Y'All Been Busy

 

First off, Happy Mother's Day to any of you guys that are mothers, have a mother or wish to have a mother. I went and visited my Mom in the hospital today. Go call your Mom this very goddamn instant and tell her how much you love her and how grateful you are for everything she ever did for you. Believe me when I tell you---the day will come when you wish you could just see her for a minute, for an hour, so you can tell her all the things you should have been saying all along.

 

Ka-Bars: I took the name Ka-Bar as a handle kind of carelessly. Anybody who is a Marine or former Marine or a Navy hospital corpsman will see it and know immediately. To be truthfull, using "Ka-Bar" as a internet handle among Marines is kind of lame ass. (Too late.)

 

The Ka-Bar Company manufactures all kinds of knives, including pocket knives. I have a real old pocket knife I inherited from my Grandpa that is a Ka-Bar, another reason I like the handle. Recently, my niece sent me a box of my late brother-in-law's possessions, mostly Marine Corps manuals and notes he took during his tour in TBS at Quantico, VA. Among all his stuff was his personal Ka-Bar in a stiff, dry leather sheath. I was thrilled that she gave it to me. It was the Ka-Bar he carried in combat in Vietnam. It actually is not a Ka-Bar brand knife, but made by Ontario Cutlery. I spent a week carefully removing the rust and soaking the sheath in boot oil. I think of him every time I take it out of my gun safe to oil it and hone the edge

 

To address the "communist issue.".

 

Mikhail Bakunin was a contemporary of Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels. At the time of the First International (the 1868 global congress of the International Working Men's Association, founded in 1864) Bakunin was more-or-less the most influential member (read "leader") of the anarchist contingent. Collectively, they espoused a theory of organization known as "Anarchist communism." It had no Party, no "central committee", certainly no pretensions of dictatorship. The anarchists, and their theories of industrial/trade union organization, and their dedication to the ideas that the state, the church and the family must all be overturned if Man was to be free, were very popular. Especially with the less-educated common working men.

 

Marx and Engels were leaders and influential members of a faction known as the "scientific socialists." They firmly believed that revolution would occur first in the most advanced, industrialized countries (wrong) and that the better educated, more highly skilled workers in Great Britain, Germany and France would be the leaders of a world-wide socialist organization. The idea of "communism" was denigrated as simplistic, unsophisticated and crude, not to mention, well---ignorant. Marx and Engels were pretty sure that only scientific socialism and the dictatorship of the proletariat would ever overturn capitalism. They attacked Bakunin and accused him of a lot of things that were either not true, or gross distortions of the facts. Bakunin was expelled from the IWMA. The scientific socialists took it over, moved it to New York (if memory serves) where it quickly became irrelevant.

 

Bakunin went on to organize unions all over the world.

 

However, Marx and Engels ripped off some of the more popular aspects of Bakunin's ideas and images. They adopted the word "Communism" for themselves (as well as "communist") and incorporated the idea that once the dictatorship of the proletariat prevailed the mighty Communist State would "wither away."

 

Yeah, right. The Anarchists were pissed that the scientific socialists ripped off their image, but what can you do? The origins of the unrelenting animosity between the anarchists and the "communist" statists has been going on ever since, but it was escalated a great deal by the wholesale slaughter of anarchists at Kronstadt (1924, I think) by Trotsky's Red Army, and the eventual defeat and genocidal murders of the Ukrainian peasant's revolt under the anarchist, Makhno. Ever since, anarchists have hated the Communists, and the feeling is very definately mutual. I had some friends in the anarchist tongue-in-cheek "organization" in Chicago in the 1970's called the "Chicago Ice Pick Association", which was a spin-off on the fact that Leon Trotsky was murdered with an ice axe in his home in Mexico in 1940. By that time, he was a persona non grata in the Soviet Union (Russia), and denounced as an enemy of the State because he was a political danger to Stalin.

 

(BTW, "CIPA" was one of the very first political graffitti tags I ever did--with a circle around the "A." We marked up all over North Halstead and in Old Town. Virtually nobody understood what it meant, except our intended targets, the Socialist Worker's Party (SWP.)

 

Some of our favorite anarchist taunts, guaranteed to cause the Socialist Worker's Party Trots to fight:

 

"TWO LEGS GOOD, FOUR LEGS BAD!" (from Orwell's "Animal Farm" and

 

"TROTSKY'S DEAD, WAS A RED

GOT AN ICE AXE TO THE HEAD!"

 

We loved beating up Trots. Ah, the good old days.

 

Another of our big enemies was a Lyndon LaRouche organization called the International Caucus of Labor Committees or something like that (I forget--they're so crazy it's had to keep up with the La Rouche people.) Anyway, they loved to fight, which was good enough for us. Nobody ever got hurt very bad, but it made for a lot of interesting Saturday nights, LOL.