Daze One Million Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 thanks yoink im bout to get it this weekend, after reading this thread and seeing how "Deep the rabbit hole really goes" i think im becoming a matrix junkie...scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-->Def$tar! Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 EL Mams You make a good point in that The Matrix did expose a larger audience to simplistic philosophical ideas, an audience that would not necessarily be exposed otherwise, this can only be a good thing. I make the comparison to the book, the Celestine Prophecy, because I think it is has played a similar role within a different, yet largely comparable target audience. The Celestine prophecy also bolstered a fairly weak storyline with an eclectic use of western philosophy and eastern mysticism. My issue with the first Matrix was largely from the aforementioned marriage of philosophy and popular culture, for example; Kung Fu, Neo Gothic styling, Break beat music and so forth. As an analogy, it is like me making a movie about Jesus and having him wear Fubu clothes to attract a wider audience. I strongly believe that this would not be the right thing to do out of respect for those who believe strongly in Christ. Which leads me to my next point, The biblical references in the first movie were by no means clever, the makers of the movie were relying on the ignorance of the majority of the viewers in order to make this a twist of some kind, and again, although I not a Christian by any means, I find it somewhat offensive to try to make a buck of such a high ideal as the notion of God. To make another comparison, the movie "The Ten Commandments" Is actually one of my favourite movies (I’m sure you find this amusing given my previous statements) because of 1. Its obscure humorous value and 2. I believe although obviously trying to make money of the movie the director did not do comprise his (I am assuming it is a he) notion of making a movie to glorify the story of Moses. I personally would not even put The Matrix on the same level as Blade Runner , another easily comparable movie, because Blade Runner was obvious about the questions it was trying to pose and did not, to the same degree, try to put in place a safety net of action for the masses. If the ideas the director of Blade Runner (who’s name I do not know as I am not a huge fan) did not come across the movie would have failed miserably, In this sense the Directors of The Matrix have taken the easy way out, without even half the subtlety of Blade Runner. The philosophy involved with the Matrix Reloaded seemed to me to be aiming for complexity simply for complexities sake, at least with the first one there was somewhat of an apparent overall message of mastering reality, which has its roots in eastern mysticism and Buddhist Enlightenment. El Mam you have proved yourself as someone obviously worthy debating with, please take this as an invitation to continue conversation this further, and not as an attack on your beliefs. Peace Ps Note I have taken the time to edit spelling mistakes this time, as it is worth my doing in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 ** ahh fuck page 8 I reallly don't think Defstar wrote that last post. (meh) <<not contributing once again. Edit x 3 I can stay up all hours of the night, but why did I fall asleep during one of the most intellectually stimulating shows of the year? Good on you all for expansion of exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Meh. nevermind. Continue on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolinmasta Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 I saw this movie recently its pretty fucking good i liked the part where that sexy brown haired girl killed the vampire and when that blonde girl ate that cake and got orgasmic and the car chase when morpheus had that fucking extra cool blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRYB0L Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Just bought the matrix reloaded on dvd from a friend for 6 bucks. Lets hear it for computer geeks who download movies off the net. now if I only had a dvd burner I could sell some copys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Trotter Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 I watched it for the second time a couple of days ago, and I have to say it just seemed a bit more cheesey this time around. It also seemed like there wasn't much story, and that the action scenes were dragged out in order to bulk it up. I can't imagine wanting to see it again. I still can't wait for Revolutions though, just to see how it all turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 yeah defstar knows where its at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 QUERY FOR MAMS (or whoever) - Who is the guy they show being dragged off (he has a beard?, I think) when Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity are walking into the restaurant to meet the Merovengian? I'm intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I'm 2 minutes away from finishing downloading the theatrical trailer to Revolutions (it's taken all fucking morning on 56K, mind you). I will report back in a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I saw the Revolutions trailer last night...same shit, different day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 jkashfalkHUI%^&%&^5656676879688njnj```````````,,...>>!!!!!!!!! THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO FUCK YOUR MOM IN THE ASS WHILE CALLING HER "ROBERT" AND SHE'S GOING TO LOVE EVERY SECOND OF IT. 11.05.03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 That wasn't directed at you Tesser, just people's moms in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Is it a new trailer, or the one they showed at the end of Reloaded? Because quite frankly I think that the fight scene outside in the rain between Neo and Mr. Smith is going to kick a whole lotta ass... maybe even come on par with the 100 Mr. Smiths from the 2nd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 It's different, offers more insight into what happens in the movie, as well as more incentives to start buying more underwear for stockpiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Allow me to pluck my skull from my asshole. I just watched it, holy shit... the visuals absolutely stunning, and the story seems to be wrapping up nicely... I wonder what that big machine he was talking to in the 'real' world was? Bitch looked like Lavos, for whomever of you played old school snes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPiTA Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I'm thinking the last one is gonna be sweet in a much different way than the other two...it has a totally different fell to it. And yes, your eyes are going to have their first orgasm while watching this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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