bodice_ripper Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 Originally posted by Smart yeah, no, well... I wasn't talking to, or about, you... and then you said something to me... anyway, I'm glad you got to use your little 'chill pill' joke, hope you don't feel like you wasted it... oh not at all, thank you for your concern on that front. But google is a renewable resource, so not to worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 i prdict that syria is next, followed by either saudi arabia or iran...if pressed, i'd say iran. dubbyah has a couple more years in office, he's not going to stop until he fucks the u.s. for generations to come. i was happy to see some iraqi's that are actually happy, but if you look closely, there aren't alot of them celebrating...how many in baghdad alone? 1 million? close? i only saw maybe 50 people celebrating... shite, niggy, those were shia muslims, too...the ones that saddam really hates...well, i say we shold have just left the middle east alone, if those people wanted to be liberated, the would have done it themselves...we should concentrate on russia for oil...some of the most vast untapped oil bearing land in the world....whatever, i support our troops, but only because they have to go over there and fight. just following orders... as for north korea...i wonder if it's something to do with dubbyah calling them part of the axis of evil??? hmm.......it's not like we have to be scared of them or their nukes, anyway, remember the star wars defense system? there are better things now...we'd have two nukes on them before one of theirs even got halfway to california....and it wouldn't make it there anyway....mazers....yeah, planes with giant sodium iodide lasers (chemical laser) that can bust a hole in a missile... neat stuff...the world as we know it is doomed...peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 now that saddam is on the run/dead, guess who's now got the #1 illest security apparatus...george w. bush!!! can you believe it?! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperbackWriter Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 all you anti-SARS chumps are heaps gay and pro-war is hard long live the illuminati!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 Originally posted by bodice_ripper i was just pointing out that you weren't basing you little analogy on anything - it was just HYPERBOLE uh... well, hyperbole is when you exaggerate to an extreme degree. I was basing my 'little' analogy on the generally accepted fact that Hitler killed 6 million Jews in WWII. I cut that number in half, to 3 million. That's the opposite of exaggeration, and hyperbole. Sorry you wasted your big word too, maybe you can find one that actually fits next time... Originally posted by casekonly i was happy to see some iraqi's that are actually happy, but if you look closely, there aren't alot of them celebrating...how many in baghdad alone? 1 million? close? i only saw maybe 50 people celebrating... shite, niggy, those were shia muslims, too...the ones that saddam really hates...well, i say we shold have just left the middle east alone, if those people wanted to be liberated, the would have done it themselves... right... all 50 of them shoulda just got it together and saved us a bunch of money and trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 Originally posted by Smart uh... well, hyperbole is when you exaggerate to an extreme degree. I was basing my 'little' analogy on the generally accepted fact that Hitler killed 6 million Jews in WWII. I cut that number in half, to 3 million. That's the opposite of exaggeration, and hyperbole. Sorry you wasted your big word too, maybe you can find one that actually fits next time... twas hyperbole to compare ASKING for proof about weapons, to DENYING the deaths of millions of Jews ahhhhhhhhhhhh, we're always laughing, you and me. C'mere you big lug :lick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted April 12, 2003 Share Posted April 12, 2003 right... all 50 of them shoulda just got it together and saved us a bunch of money and trouble... i know you're just being funny, but seriously, i think that if you oppress people long enough, they get tired of it eventually and do something about it. saddam's army's (apparently) turned against him, alot of the soldiers just went home after plaign their weapons in the strategic locations...they just gave up and left...if they had weapons and they were against saddam...i mean seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 No sympathy for the UN I'd love to see the American people tell the United Nations to pack up their sorry-ass shit and get off our property. What, they can't pull this bullshit rip-off socialist scam from Brussels, or Paris or (more appropriately) Moscow? GET U.S. OUT OF THE UN! They Suuucck. It's like Gulliver and the Lilliputians. Fuck 'em. Go flaunt the local laws of France, you bunch of parasites! How's that quote go? "Going to war without the UN is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Absolutely. We have 53 more-or-less "allies" (supposedly) in the War Against Saddam. Most of them are on the par of Spain. What did they send? Twenty-five soldiers? We spend zillions to free the Iraqi people from fascism, and nations like Japan show up a day late and a dollar short. This is the thanks we get for the Marshall Plan and not crushing Japan under our boots after WWII. I know how I'd vote about the UN---"Take your sad-ass shit on down the road, Socialists. AND PAY YOUR GODDAMNED TRAFFIC TICKETS, YOU ARROGANT BASTARDS." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Word to cupcakes, man. These things are so fucking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Kabar, you should just go full out and reject everyone else in the world, they all basically want to infringe on your rights. Then you will be the ruler of kabarland where evryone has a right to arms. Seriously homie, I aint no communist, but every great power needs another great power to keep it in check, judging from our cowboy president we need someone to fucken check our government realllllly fucken soon before his democracy bullshit rhetoric continues in full circle and ends up leaving the world in a fascist dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctrl+alt+del Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 YES THE IRAQIS LOVE AMERICA THATS WHY THEY ARE RIOTING AND LOOTING, YOU DUMB FUCKS! shit, all the girls ive ever been in love with, ive raped! thats how you show your respect for them! .....no. no not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 I'd love to see the American people tell the United Nations to pack up their sorry-ass shit and get off our property. yeah, that would be brilliant......wonderful stroke of foreign policy who knows the way this admin, you may get your wish.... then again careful what ya wish for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 skewage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janlo Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Re: No sympathy for the UN Originally posted by KaBar I'd love to see the American people tell the United Nations to pack up their sorry-ass shit and get off our property. What, they can't pull this bullshit rip-off socialist scam from Brussels, or Paris or (more appropriately) Moscow? GET U.S. OUT OF THE UN! They Suuucck. It's like Gulliver and the Lilliputians. Fuck 'em. Go flaunt the local laws of France, you bunch of parasites! How's that quote go? "Going to war without the UN is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Absolutely. We have 53 more-or-less "allies" (supposedly) in the War Against Saddam. Most of them are on the par of Spain. What did they send? Twenty-five soldiers? We spend zillions to free the Iraqi people from fascism, and nations like Japan show up a day late and a dollar short. This is the thanks we get for the Marshall Plan and not crushing Japan under our boots after WWII. I know how I'd vote about the UN---"Take your sad-ass shit on down the road, Socialists. AND PAY YOUR GODDAMNED TRAFFIC TICKETS, YOU ARROGANT BASTARDS." wow. No wonder the majority of the world is becoming anti-american. nice foreign policy that u have kabar... damn that's stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 If the land under the UN Building in New York is international property (hey, I'll buy that--like an embassy) let them go play "UN" in PARIS. They can have international property there just as good as international property here. The City of New York or the U.S. Government can purchase the land under the UN BUilding and tear it down and put a park there, or a hotel, or a hospital--something that will benefit the people of New York. The United Nations delegates can go get in traffic accidents in PARIS and refuse to be ticketed or answer lawsuits. They can blow their respective citizen's money on booze and whores in Luanda, instead of New York. The truth is WE DON'T NEED THE UN, THEY NEED US. They want the UN headquarters in New York City because the entire UN scam is predicated upon them spending millions of dollars (that their respective countries cannot afford) so that they can come to New York and live the high life. It's a gigantic, socialistic rip off. Let them build the goddamned UN headquarters in Zimbabwe. What's wrong with that idea? There's no need for it to be here in the United States at all. Let them take it to Sweden, or Lithuania, or Thailand. Since we're all equals and all, I see no reason why the UN can't be situated in some Third World shithole, instead of in the middle of New York City. The most offensive idea is that somehow the UN has one single shred of authority over the United States, it's citizens, our laws, or how we live our lives. THE UN HAS NO AUTHORITY IN THE UNITED STATES. This country belongs to US, and how we live here is up to nobody but the American people. Fuck the UN. Any American president that signs a treaty or international agreement ceding one iota of American sovereignity to the United Nations is behaving like a traitor. We owe the UN exactly nothing. Now. If we decide to GENEROUSLY ASSIST THEM VOLUNTARILY to help in some disaster, or humanitarian effort, that's just fine. But they have NO AUTHORITY TO COMPELL US TO DO ANYTHING. Unless, of course, they'd care to come over here and try to make us. And if they try that, we will gladly leave their bleached bones in the streets of New York. The difference between the people of the U.S. and the people of Iraq or Yugoslavia, etc., is that the people of the U.S. are armed, and willing to defend themselves. If we had been fighting the people of Iraq, instead of their hated government, I think we would have had a much, much, much harder time of it. The looting and riotous behavior just proves to me that the Iraqis see themselves as separate from their government. They obey authority that they see as legitimate (the Islamic scholars and religious authorities) but do not obey authority that they see as illegitimate. The mass majority of Iraqis just want peace and freedom, and no dictatorship. No different from the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Checks and balances Kabar. And as far as the looting Iraqi's. They were also poor Iraqi's and strange middle classers with fetishes for certain pieces. If chaos were ensuing in your country and you were no longer living under the barrel of a gun, would you sit around and wait to die? I don't think so. It's time to loot and pillage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 ill let ya guess which to ministries in iraq have not been looted, do to marine presence outside....even though gen. brooks and rummy have said there was nothing we could really do, and we are to busy to police the region....... give up..... 1. ministry of interior 2. ministry of oil keep going to the trough you fucktards....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 for those who didnt pay close enough attention, the reason this war happened was because the U.N. wasnt doing its job. If the U.N. took care of its business Bush would have had no reason/excuse for handling Iraq. And Bodice Ripper needs to check out this Chemical Ali dude, who to me is the shining example of why this whole situation was justified. People getting blown up sucks, generations getting fucked up from chemical attacks REALLY sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mental invalid Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 and please triple dicker why dont you let us know where some of those chemical weapons come from.....please enlighten us..... perhaps the drive up window located outside the office of US foreign diplomacy..... "yes one order of anthrax and nerve agents, and a small coke please" "youre not gonna use them on us are you??" "no, no, just the iranians and my own people" "oh, in that case would you like to supersize it" mmmmmmmmm.......slop tastes good eh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Originally posted by TRIPLE DECKR for those who didnt pay close enough attention, the reason this war happened was because the U.N. wasnt doing its job. If the U.N. took care of its business Bush would have had no reason/excuse for handling Iraq. And Bodice Ripper needs to check out this Chemical Ali dude, who to me is the shining example of why this whole situation was justified. People getting blown up sucks, generations getting fucked up from chemical attacks REALLY sucks. yeah If I recall, the US has used nuclear weapons against civilians, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 i dont know if we gave iraq chemical weapons. if we did it was fucking stupid. no doubt about it, bad move. because they turned around and gassed x hundred thousand people, which the us never did. free will. if someone gives me a gun am i going to go shoot my upstairs neighbor? no. either way saddam was one fucked up stalinesque dictator, and that doesnt fly these days. he got crushed and in reality the us does need to chill out, but this war really wasnt all that uncalled for. its the legacy that has everyone flipping out. Hiroshima was the one time America actually pulled the trigger on anything even close to nuclear, and that was after pearl harbor and a whole lot of other fucked up shit, and i guarantee if japan could have done it to us, they would have. Im no big time historian, i only really know the life ive personally lived, and it seems to me that alot of people around here have never had enemies in their lives. sometimes you have to stop talking and show someone that they dont want to fuck with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 I still dont understand this bullshit logic in defense of the war. What gives the US the right to have WMD's and not anybody else. Our president has shown not an ounce of regard for the good of the world and the population as a dictator. Our presidential cabinet has been wrapped around several scandals that exposed the corruption and total lack of impartiality in their politics. Our president has dismissed several nuclear arms treaties, pissed on several UN charters, and constantly voted in favor of large corporations over the health of our citizens. So why should this fuckken lunatic be allowed responsible for the worlds largest army and weapons stockpile, and then have the nerve to start wars because other leaders are starting to arm themselves in fear of this rogue. I dont agree with saddam or terrorism, but no matter how crazy any world leader might be, Id be stockpiling as much shit as I could get as a response to the US govt's behavior. We didnt even finish Bush's 1st war and we already in another war, plus the US is starting shit with Syria. Hopefully the world will recognize how brainwashed this country's citizens are by the media, so they dont totally blame this ridiculous behavior totally on us. Do people really think the US is in a giant bubble where no one will judge their actions? Oh yeah, hiroshima and nagasaki were bombed 2 days after japan surrendered and the war had ended. It was more of a show of force and a opportunity to validate the ridiculously expensive nuclear arms program. Read a little before the next time you start shitting stupidity out of your mouth triple decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 ok now you can give me a bunch of "facts" about how the us is to blame for everything ever, maybe someday ill agree. dont forget to shit on the media, who gave yo your facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 reading countless books and taking dozens of classes in college. Also looking at both sides and finding the logical medium. Pull your eyes off of fox news, even the owner of fox has said they dont report news, they report news in the context slanted for popular opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 No Surrender Japan had received what would seem to have been overwhelming shocks. Yet, after two atomic bombings, massive conventional bombings, and the Soviet invasion, the Japanese government still refused to surrender. heres a little reading asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Originally posted by TRIPLE DECKR sometimes you have to stop talking and show someone that they dont want to fuck with you. yep, i believe that's the argument that North Korea are currently using to explain thier nuclear exploits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 yep. all the rhetorical going in circles bullshit aside, what did the past think the future would look like? id figure a wasteland. good guess. the worst part of all this shit is that we, the youth, have nothing to do with this. we go off and die, for a college education. you want to make sense of all this? forget about it. read til your eyes melt youll still only have your opinion. if you really want to help out set your sights directly in front of you. buy a hungry homeless dude a sandwich. go volunteer at a soup kitchen. run for president. forget about it, its bigger than any of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 There is a law that says that even in a time of war the people are still permitted to trade with the enemy. So even if we break all diplomatic ties and start war with a country we can still trade with them, hence mental invalids statement about the protected ministries. Yet another example of our shortsighted foreign policy. Basically we can become an unstoppable war machine with no conscience and our economic infrastructure will not so much as waver. I see the UN as the conscience of the world and I think it's very bad to go against it. If we keep ignoring our conscience there can be very bad consequences in the age of terrorism. Such as a suitcase bomb special delivery. We need to let go of our imperialistic past (finally) and grow into an adulthood or be a spoiled bratty kid throwing temper tantrums until the end. Sure Saddam used WMD on his own people and Iranians but anyone who knows the slightest bit about the Iran Contra affair knows that the US was playing both sides helping them destroy each other. I wish people would do their homework before posting. I would like to see this thread a thread of political fact, not political opinion. I am not allowed to have an opinion. Thus I must state facts. That is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esai Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Originally posted by TRIPLE DECKR No Surrender Japan had received what would seem to have been overwhelming shocks. Yet, after two atomic bombings, massive conventional bombings, and the Soviet invasion, the Japanese government still refused to surrender. heres a little reading asshole. Stop reading Rush Limbaugh or elementary school history books and youll find the truth. Read any thorough, impartial book with a timeline that chronicles the end of WW2 and US/Japanese realtions and youll see that the bombings came 2 days after japan had wired the US with a surrender. I did a report on this 2 years ago and went through several University libraries to find comprehensive documentation, its also in our Congess' records dipshit. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zodiac ying Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 On August 6 and 9, 1945, the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by the first atomic bombs used in warfare. Japan had received what would seem to have been overwhelming shocks. Yet, after two atomic bombings, massive conventional bombings, and the Soviet invasion, the Japanese government still refused to surrender. The Potsdam Proclamation had called for "Japan to decide whether she will continue to be controlled by those self-willed militaristic advisers" (U.S. Dept. of State, Potsdam 2, pg. 1475). On the 13th, the Supreme Council For the Direction of the War (known as the "Big 6") met to address the Potsdam Proclamation's call for surrender. Three members of the Big 6 favored immediate surrender; but the other three - (War Minister Anami, Army Chief of Staff Umezu, and Navy Chief of Staff Toyoda - adamantly refused. The meeting adjourned in a deadlock, with no decision to surrender (Butow, pg. 200-202). Later that day the Japanese Cabinet met. It was only this body - not the Big 6, not even the Emperor - that could rule as to whether Japan would surrender. And a unanimous decision was required (Butow, pg. 176-177, 208(43n)). But again War Minister Anami led the opponents of surrender, resulting in a vote of 12 in favor of surrender, 3 against, and 1 undecided. The key concern for the Japanese military was loss of honor, not Japan's destruction. Having failed to reach a decision to surrender, the Cabinet adjourned (Sigal, pg. 265-267). On the following day, August 14, Anami, Umezu, and Toyoda were still arguing that there was a chance for victory (John Toland, The Rising Sun, pg. 936). But then that same day, the Cabinet unanimously agreed to surrender (Toland, pg. 939). Where none of the previous events had succeeded in bringing the Japanese military leaders to surrender, surrender came at Emperor Hirohito's request: "It is my desire that you, my Ministers of State, accede to my wishes and forthwith accept the Allied reply" (Butow, pg. 207-208). blah blah - they surrendered AFTER the bombings. good for them, sucks for you. but you know everything so go ahead and quote some sources and then ill quote some more and we will be in the same position as everyone else concerned with whats going on right now in the middle east. im going to go adopt a stray dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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