dojafx Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 maybe they have wierd communist stuff because the country's leadership is communist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 Re: Re: my interpretation Originally posted by seeking and a citizenship that no matter the spin we try and place on them, are very loyal to their leader. right, that's why 2 planes and a ferry boat have been hijacked to the USA in the last 2 weeks... or why in the mid 90's 35,000 immigrated in 3 months while Castro unofficially turned his back on the border for a few months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 here's another brain teaser: we're having troubles with north korea threatening us with nuclear weapons and the u.s. is still helping them build their nuclear reactors....right now, even as i type this,it's going on....hope you guys like chinese food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 smart, why dont you stick to answering my questions instead of trying to nit-pick my fucking answers. so 35,000 left. big deal. with all the propoganda we throw out at them and the idea that 'everything is great in america' you'd think they'd ALL be falling over over eachother trying to escape their communist 'dictator'. unless you're trying to claim that castro is somehow holding his position with brute force and an iron fist and there is some incredible civil unrest, in which case perhaps you'd like to give an example of that instead of just spitting irrelivant numbers out your ass. every country has its problems, but not every country creates problems for other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by dojafx maybe they have wierd communist stuff because the country's leadership is communist? NO FUCKING SHIT MATE! YOUR SPOT ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by dojafx people saying that castro is some sort of ruthless dictator are either really misinformed or just idiots you are a fucking idiot... in fact, imho, if you didn't grow up in Miami, the Keys or Cuba then you don't know shit about shit... though a bunch of Canadians use it as a resort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 http://www.upbustleandout.co.uk/assets/rebel_radio_diary_cover.jpg'> you want to know about Cuba? Read 'Rebel Radio Diary' by the group Up, Bustle and Out makes Ry Cooder seem like a tourist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by Kilo7- makes Ry Cooder seem like a tourist. uh, Ry Cooder WAS a tourist... he only went once, but he made a documentary about MUSIC... and it's VERY good but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 it may be a good idea... the one communist government that hates your guts and is close enough to ram a missle down your throat.why not have a base there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dojafx Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 smart: yeah, the cubans in miami are dead on :to the us: "kick castro out so we can return to our homeland and exploit its people again!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 yeah, I'm sure you know ALL about Miami Cubans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 have the people forgotten? http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2000/04/24/elian8.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painthuffer Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 I'm going to Cuba this summer. Visit the roots na'mean. I'm gonna stay in Florida for about a week, anyone want to paint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 sidebar Eight hours before the U.S.'s "Orange" alert on Feb. 7, four heavily armed Cuban military men wandered through downtown Key West, Fla., unknown to anyone in Washington. (Turned out they had arrived by boat to defect and were looking for someone to surrender to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenglish Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE_rase_war Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Castro was in my town recently, stopping over because he is not allowed into US airspace. Go cuba! :doingwhatIraqcant: also, a good read is Che's book, Castro and him served at the same time and supposedly shared notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 I'm starting to realize that I AM cuba.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by Ten Cents You're thinking of the battleship Maine. No, I'm not... I'm thinking of the first shots fired in the Spanish American war... The Maine was destroyed in Havana harbor, like 400 miles away... but you're right about the general overview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Merdle Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by KING OF HELL yes. me and my 7 dollar an hour, 20 hour a week, cant afford rent or groceries ass is such a corporate money hungry fuck. blanket generalizations like that make you seem more ignorant than the people you are making fun of. I agree and apolagize but I still hate the states. Bush has some serious karmactic justice headed his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Originally posted by seeking unless you're trying to claim that castro is somehow holding his position with brute force and an iron fist and there is some incredible civil unrest, in which case perhaps you'd like to give an example of that instead of just spitting irrelivant numbers out your ass. *from today's news Castro Defends Crackdown on Dissenters By ANITA SNOW Associated Press Writer HAVANA President Fidel Castro is defending his crackdown on dissent, shrugging off international criticism and vowing to defend Cuba against destabilizing moves by the United States. "We are now immersed in a battle against provocations that are trying to move us toward conflict and military aggression by the United States," Castro said. He did not directly refer to Friday's execution of three men convicted of hijacking a ferry to get to the United States, in a Friday night speech broadcast on state television. Nor did he mention the lengthy sentences given 75 dissidents convicted of helping U.S. diplomats undermine Cuba's socialist system. Though both measures were roundly condemned by world governments and human rights groups, the communist leader made it clear that he considers his country to be under U.S. attack and that he will do whatever it takes to ensure his system remains intact. "We have been defending ourselves for 44 years and have always been willing to fight until the end," Castro said. "If someday they make us disappear from the map, we will die with the greatest dignity in the world." Some longtime Cuba observers believe Castro is alarmed by the U.S. government's military action in Iraq and worries his country could be next. "I think that the Cubans have looked at what is happening in Iraq and have concluded that the United States will not be restrained by international law and international institutions," said Cuba specialist Wayne Smith, who was the top U.S. diplomat in Havana during former President Jimmy Carter's administration. Smith said he considered such a strike unlikely but "the Cubans still need international support from the Europeans, from Canada" and what they are doing is "only shooting themselves in the foot." The Cuban government's harsh measures began March 18 - the eve of the launch of the war on Iraq. That night, a statement read on state television announced that a roundup of "mercenaries" was underway. Over the following three weeks, authorities arrested, tried and sentenced 75 of its most vocal critics to terms ranging from 6 to 28 years. Authorities accused the independent journalists, opposition party leaders, human rights advocates and pro-democracy activists of receiving money from and working with U.S. diplomats to harm Cuba's economic and political systems - charges that the dissidents and Americans deny. The crackdown came amid a rash of successful hijackings of planes and a ferry to the United States, which Cuba blames on U.S. policies that it says encourage illegal migration. On Friday, a firing squad executed three men arrested in the unsuccessful armed hijacking of a passenger ferry on April 2. Four others were sentenced to life in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 I can't get the link to the atricle to work but this is the teaser... from Granma Internacional OFFICIAL NOTE Death penalty applied to main ferry hijackers for terrorist crimes ON April 5, as was announced at the due time, the individuals responsible for the hijacking and attempted violent rerouting to the United States of the Baraguá ferry were brought before the Crimes against State Security courtroom in City of Havana People’s Court. This hijacking was accompanied by extreme violence and death threats to the crew and passengers on board the ferry in service in the Bay of Havana, and gravely endangered the lives of dozens of people taken hostage who were at the point of perishing when, ... Here it is in full format in Spanish for our bi-lingual users... NOTA OFICIAL Aplicada la pena de muerte por terrorismo a principales secuestradores de lancha El pasado 5 de abril, como se informó oportunamente, fueron puestos a disposición de la Sala de los Delitos contra la Seguridad del Estado del Tribunal Popular de Ciudad de La Habana los responsables del secuestro y desvío hacia Estados Unidos con extrema violencia y amenaza de muerte a los tripulantes y viajeros de la embarcación de transporte de pasajeros "Baraguá", que prestaba servicios en la bahía de La Habana, con gravísimo peligro para la vida de decenas de personas, convertidas en rehenes, que estuvieron a punto de perecer cuando, a 30 millas de nuestras costas, la embarcación, diseñada para navegar en aguas interiores, quedó sin combustible, con mar fuerza cuatro, y estuvo en peligro de zozobrar antes de llegar en su auxilio las unidades de Guardafronteras. El Tribunal aplicó el procedimiento de juicio sumarísimo previsto en los Artículos 479 y 480 de la Ley de Procedimiento Penal, con pleno respeto de las garantías y derechos fundamentales de los acusados. El martes 8 concluyó el juicio. El Tribunal consideró probados los hechos, que constituían graves delitos de terrorismo previstos en la Ley 93 contra Actos de Terrorismo, del 24 de diciembre del 2001, en virtud de lo cual y tomando en cuenta la alta peligrosidad social de los hechos, así como la responsabilidad individual, el grado de participación y los antecedentes de conducta de los acusados, resultaron sancionados a: Pena capital: Lorenzo Enrique Copello Castillo, Bárbaro Leodán Sevilla García y Jorge Luis Martínez Isaac, los tres principales, más activos y brutales jefes de los secuestradores. Prisión perpetua: Maikel Delgado Aramburo, Yoanny Thomas González, Harold Alcalá Aramburo y Ramón Henry Grillo. Treinta años de privación de libertad: Wilmer Ledea Pérez. Cinco años de privación de libertad: Ana Rosa Ledea Ríos. Tres años de privación de libertad: Yolanda Pando Rizo. Dos años de privación de libertad: Dania Rojas Góngora. Los tres sancionados a la pena máxima establecieron de inmediato recurso de apelación ante el Tribunal Supremo Popular, máximo órgano de justicia, que celebró un nuevo juicio en el que la sentencia fue ratificada. Sometidas de oficio las sentencias de máxima pena a la consideración del Consejo de Estado, éste, en reunión convocada al efecto en la que durante horas el colectivo analizó con profundidad los hechos probados por los cuales fueron sancionados, la gravedad de los mismos, y los peligros potenciales que implicaban no solo para la vida de numerosas personas inocentes sino también para la seguridad del país sometido a un plan siniestro de provocaciones fraguado por los sectores más extremistas del Gobierno de Estados Unidos y sus aliados de la mafia terrorista de Miami con el único propósito de crear condiciones y pretextos para agredir a nuestra Patria, la cual será defendida al precio que sea necesario, consideró absolutamente justas y con estricto apego a las leyes las decisiones de ambos tribunales y ratificó las sentencias. Al amanecer de hoy, las sanciones fueron aplicadas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krie Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 im eating a hotdog and drinkin solo, its nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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