rape

[Guest socrates]

Originally posted by Tesseract

what exaclty do you mean by rape?

 

Anything where the girl didn't explictly say yes....i.e drugged, passed out, or violently assualted and having it happen. It can't only be when she is attacked.

[S@T@N]

I remember... back when I was little, like 6 or 7, my mom told me

something. It was about why I shouldn't talk to strangers.

 

I was an ignorant little piece of shit, and I should have listened more

thoroughly, but from what I can remember, something happened to

her when she was a kid. She had been walking down the road her

home was on, when one of the adults she knew from around the

area had asked her to get in the car, something along those lines.

 

Because of how small I was, she didn't get into detail. She just said he

did bad things to her, really bad things, something about touching her...

and that I couldn't tell anyone, it was between us.... because she knew

if my dad ever found out he would kill the guy. For whatever reason,

she didn't want that happening.

 

I have never asked her about it since. I've always wondered though,

in the back of my mind, in that place between memory and conscious,

what the hell she could've meant. I never truly devoted any brainpower

to thinking about it, because then I would've realized what truly went on.

 

 

I hate everyone. But I'm a scumbag just like everyone else, it's all

just a toss of the dice if you're a sinner or a saint. I got lucky.

[hussy]

Somebody earlier posted a single word reply:

 

MASTURBATE

 

I think that says a lot when considering this subject.

 

When in doubt, visit Mrs. Palmer and her five sisters. She'll always do you right.

[podrido]

ILL SUCK YO DICK FOR SOME HEROIN

 

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[hussy]

WARNING: excessive dick sucking swells your lips to angelina Jolie-ian proportions.

[THUMB WRESTL]

i don't like when girls get drunk, i seriously don't knwo if i want a wife that drinks, or if she does, she would definately have to be a light drinker.

 

i just can't get down with people who let mind altering substances (beer, liquor, weed, whatever) be their excuse in life.

 

i mean, no matter what i've done in my life, before i do things, i think of the consequences, if i paint i know i could maybe get caught, and if i drink and drive i realise i might kill someone or what have you, whatever it is, i'm aware of the end results.

 

i can't stand girls who drink until they don't know what's going on then get with guys, whether its one or two or more, that's stupid on their part.

 

a lot of girls use that to cry wolf i think to, which pisses me off almost as much as if they would have really got raped, because they knew ahead of time that they were drinking to much, and if they surely didnt want to be having sex after getting trashed, they should have had one of their girlfriends make sure that they didn't mess with any guys.

[Guest socrates]

And guys go and use the exuse that they were drunk and it was all in good fun....

[GI Jew]

Originally posted by hussy

Somebody earlier posted a single word reply:

 

MASTURBATE

 

I think that says a lot when considering this subject.

 

When in doubt, visit Mrs. Palmer and her five sisters. She'll always do you right.

 

that was me.... I do it anway without thinking of rape. Rape would make me limp so no, that's not the idea.

[hussy]

Read again:

 

that says a lot when considering the SUBJECT

 

 

In other words, those who consider rape should perhaps first consider masturbation as a means of quenching the need.

 

My post was only directed towards you in regard to a one word quote, not as a means of using you as an example.

[Weapon X]

some of you guys don't seem to get that rape is when a girl says no, or isn't aware of what's going on.

 

 

a gangbang is not a rape. some girls are down with that.

 

that masturbation thing probably wouldn't work all the time. See, I went to school with this guy. He was pretty chilling. I remember he was a serious addict to stealing cars even more than us, particularly them easy as hell old Caravans.

 

A few years down the road, there is a rash of brutal sexual assaults (women, particularly older ones, were being tied up in the back of minivans and getting raped) going around. They finally caught the guy. It was this fool that I had used to chill with from time to time. I felt sick because I had just run into him on the subway a few days before the arrest. He seemed normal as hell, not some psycopathic horndog checking out every girl that walked by (as I tend to do sometimes). He had a girlfriend the whole time, so I'm sure it had a lot to do with the power aspect of the whole deal instead of lack of sex in his own life. I sure feel bad for the girlfriend, as well as the victims, of course. I hear he ain't doing too well in the pen, so at least that's something.

[hussy]

Originally posted by Weapon X

 

that masturbation thing probably wouldn't work all the time.

 

Of course not i was making light of a subject that really doesn't deserve it. I'm a female who was raped at the age of 14 and I guess it's sometimes easier to play down the seriousness of a matter than to actually talk about it.

 

 

a gangbang is not a rape. some girls are down with that.

 

I don't believe that, but then again, i've never worked in the full blown porn industry [though i have known people who are] so i guess I can't comment on that. In other words, I think the only girlies that enjoy trains are those that are getting paid the big dosh or are far too blown on dope to give a fuck who is inside them from one minute to the next.

 

Girls who actually want to do something other than lay on their backs for a living are NOT down with being gang raped.

 

 

There's my $0.02

[Frate_Raper]

After reading some of these I felt like puking, and I can't really add much but this story. My Uncles mother died so he and his brother were left to there own while there father took care of all the bullshit.They had a sister she was semi retarded she was left with the family next door.Father comes home hears odd noises and just walks right in, whats he see? The people next door using his daughter in a 3 some.

 

Walked a few houses up grabbed his gun and simply exicuted them in the street infront of everyone.He was taken to jail and my Uncle and his brother were on there own at 12 and 13 in Montreal.These guys are straight THUG.

 

 

theres only one way to take car of rapists and people that hit chicks......STREET JUSTICE@!

[Guest willy.wonka]

Originally posted by BabyPuncher

wonka.. im sorry man but i'd kick your face in if i ever met you.. no offense you seem chill enough..

 

shut it already..and so what about your girlfriend and her dad..its not like my girl who lives with her brother, who raped her or the guy who gets her fired from her own job cause he raped her and felt uncomfortable that he has to look at her. not like she held me back from stickin this fool in the gut or held me back when i travelled across a state to meet this guy in person to kill him.

 

 

just cause you were raped by your friend doesnt make me the monster..i helped out more people than you will ever know.you think i piss you off?just cause my boys did horrible things?like rape, murder and crime?you can fuck off.i left that place a long time ago.

 

things change..people change..God makes men..if not..we would die by our own actions alone.i havent lived this long for nothin.

 

i think its funny how a lot of people that are around me today can see me as a person with a very very bad past and experiences..and how they tell me straight up that when times are down they look at me and see the light that i hold on to and how it gives them strength to see me in my struggles and how i do not give up..you dont know me and my own personal struggles i go through.so dont point your finger at me and scream monster..when you personally know what the monster is.

 

 

 

its things like this that make me NEED to see something more in life.. its soo sad to see everyone so lost.. i'd give it all up to be happy.. no question. i hate this place.

 

i guess when i say you dont know what its like to be me, i was wrong.

 

you were raped once...i was raped over a period of 3 months straight by some married chick.i really dont cry about it.some of my homies over here in hawaii give me high fives for it, saying "good job"..and all i tell them is," that was the worst time of my life"damn shedevil...she told me once that if i didnt fuck her that she would tell her husband that i raped her..she would suck my shrivelled dick until it becam hard and make me tap it..if i went soft, she would wait and suck on it again.

sounds like a dream, but it was a nightmare.funny that she told her husban what was going on after i told her, "thats it, no more, im leaving".

i called it rape after a couple of months of realizing what that situation really was.i thought she was just a crazy bitch that wanted too much sex and that i was a piece of meat, but i see that she was hooked on power.

 

go bitch at the guy who raped his girlfriend..dont pick on me.your so-called positivity just gives me negativity on this side of the line.

 

and how dare you talk about judgement day to me..i know whats comin.and yet, in God i still have my faith.

[hussy]

I'm impressed by willy wonka's honesty.

 

Props to you man, there is no monopoly on rape and men cop it too.

 

I understand what you're saying about your boys doing what they did to girls and having no power to stop it, i think a lot of people who have been in a full on gang situation have felt that lack of power.

 

Anyone that judges you for it is a naive fool that needs to grow the fuck up.

[Tyler Durden]

Originally posted by socrates

About 2 years ago I went to a party just outside of SF in some pretty nice area. I'd come with 3 of my friends and there were like 100 kids there and We knew 1...after like 30 minutes of "light" drinking and mingling this kid came up on us and started pointing out girls that he'd got with..I didn't really care and neither did the friend I was standing with so we walked away from him...he came back like 10 minutes later and said "wanna see how I got all those girls", I said I didn't care but he reached in his pocket and brought out a handfull of little white pills(ruffies). Before that dumb kid had a chance to close his hand I hit him, my friend grabbed him and slammed him on the concrete...we eventually drug him out into the midddle of the street and and continued to beat his ass long after he started bleeding. then the cops showed up and we never even flinched I sat in the back of the car and felt zero remorse, I went to the station spent the night in lock-up but the best part was the arresting officer found out about what really happened and wrote in his report that my friend was attacked and I was only hitting him in self defense, As I left I saw the cop as I was geting released and he grabbed my arm and said I did what he wanted to do but couldn't..........all in all you violate a girl whether I know her or you I will physicially and mentally fuck with you, so help me god until you kill yourself.

 

 

in all seriousness, good job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my take on rape: bad. very very very bad. not cool in the slightest. if you do it, and are able to go through life without feeling remorse, then i hope that you one day go through some sort of life altering psychological pain that will not leave you easily. i hope you feel torment and want to die. you deserve it.

 

 

 

 

my girlfriend, i have faith that she can handle herself, as she's fucked up some guys pretty bad before for making advances on her.... (grabbing her ass while she was working....harassing her...) i would personally kill anyone who raped/tried to rape her. i would enjoy causing someone like that as much pain as i could and not letting them die. my girl told me that she had a "kind of sort of rape fantasy" i guess you could say. the way she explained it to me though it wasnt so much "rape" as it was a little bit of sex on the rougher side. i think shes just into like....blindfolding or having her hands tied or something. i dont really consider that to be like....rape stuff...i think its more of a fetish that could be rape related in a way. i dont know, i've thought about this and it would be a really weird thing for me to do. im not really sure if im down for that, even though i want to indulge her "fantasies" just like i know she'd do for me.

 

 

 

humans are animals. we're sexual animals. males and females. the males just tend to get more......aggressive about it i believe. in the end its all a control thing though, aside from wanting a hole to stick your dick in its about having that control over another person that fills the rapists sexual appetite. these are people with control/domination issues. perhaps my girlfriend likes to be controlled a little since she appears to always be in control of everything else that goes on typically in her life? i dont know really. thats just what sounds the most logical to me right now.

[Tyler Durden]

Originally posted by BabyPuncher

k, so lets chat.

 

my girlfriend right now, she is a SWEET girl.. never been with a guy before me, never ever done anything bad in her life, drank ONCE in her life.. ever.. i mean, real good little girl. she has some problems though. she is constantly asking me to "rape" her.. its kinda scarey.. i mean.. she wants me to really rough her up and just take her.. in a mean sence.. like hit her and shit. makes me worry alot that something like this has happened before and she wont talk to me about it.

 

 

after reading this....(i read pages 1 and 3 before reading page 2...) my girl never asked me to rape her thank god...if she had i wouldve been really weirded out by that. i think theres a difference between girls wanting sex thats a little different...like blindfolds or tying up or handcuffs or whatever....and the girls who really want to be hit and be "abused" during sex. its considered s&m i believe as long as both partners are "consenting". but still.....i think that people who place a strong emphasis on "fetish's" like that may need to go see a counselor. maybe she saw someone being abused? or god forbid maybe she experienced some sort of abuse herself? but i cant imagine something like that just manifesting itself in someone "normally". i dont think that any girl would WANT to be raped who has a thorough understanding of what rape really is. i think some girls may get the idea that its some sort of exhilirating sex with a stranger where theres an element of danger involved...i think rape is EXTREMELY violent and disturbing and demoralizing at that. i think that although there are people who can appear "normal" and still be rapists or commit rapist actions, i think alot of the things that "make" a rapist can be found in people who enjoy bondage in its demoralizing and violent forms. as i said in my other post, these are people who can only feel sexually satisfied through excercising power over someone else.

[GI Jew]

diehomokthx knows no rape, but I do HATE the idea.

[Like Woah !]

Originally posted by Rectum

whats wrong with what your boy did???? ...he was probly just planning to lie next to her and like shake her a bit to wake her up, in which case she would have known what was up and given up the pussy.........you dont know that he was going to rape her when she asleep or nothing

 

 

some of you boys aree getting confused with fairplay and rape .... dont get me wrong i dont like rapists as much as the next guy esp. if it was a girl i was close to, but some of you need to reassess the difference between whores and rapists

 

ok this above really bothered me, and no one responded to it yet. i dont post much, but this is the most interesting thread on here in about forever, and everyone is being pretty respectful/honest/serious, so i figured id throw in my 2 cents , for whatever its worth

 

i really hope your joking with that "he was probably gonna lie next to her and try to wake her up" bullshit. either that, or you are living in a perfect world, where everyone means what they say, and what they say is never immoral or questionable in any way. if you cant see whats wrong with your proposed scenario, then theres probably very little i or anyone could say to make you understand. think of it like if your at a yard, and some kids come up to you and ask to "see" your paint, you know they dont wanna look at it. your getting vamped. you cant always give people the benefit of the doubt and take them at their word. even if they are your "boy", or you think you know them really well. because hardly anyone knows anyone really well, when it comes down to it. and all that stuff you have that you keep to yourself, thoughts that you dont share with anyone because you know people would look at you differently because of, well everyone has that. and some people's are more fucked up than others. and some people deal with them in different ways than others. Nothing was in a situation where he felt something was not quite kosher, and he acted accordingly, and i give him props for that.

 

 

fairplay is when something happens between two consenting people. fairplay when both parties agree to what is going on. fairplay is not when someone is too drunk/passed out/faded to say "no", so by default you assume that means "yes". by using the word "whore", or "slut" or anything like that, you are making it easier to dehumanize the girl, and view her as an object. the way you say it is like "whores" arent even girls, and if you rape a "whore", its not really rape, because , well , they're a "whore". yes, some girls are less descriminating with how they conduct themselves sexually than others, and put themselves in not-so-smart situations. does that make it an open invitation to have your way with them and for it to be ok? i want to make it clear that this is not a personal attack on you. i just think based on what you wrote, that you need to reassess some things.

[GI Jew]

Hey :stupid name: up there.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

STFU about Willy, ya catch my drift?

[Guest sneak]

my girlfriend walked in on me reading this last night (she sometimes finds the stuff on 12oz funny). she asked me what i was reading. i let her read the thread and the look on her face changed so much when she got to certain stories (notably willys and chicken bones and baby punchers). i asked her that if something ever happened to her would she tell me. she said she didnt know and it would depend on the situation.

 

i was scared by the fact that she said she didnt know if shed tell me....

 

what do the 12oz ladies think of all this? weve had bodice, but lets get some more stuff from them...

[Guest willy.wonka]

an appology that isnt really meant for any of you and a reply to sneaks

 

hey..im sorry that my story is very bad..its been stuck in my head ever since it happened..i guess i could say that even when i didnt act like i cared, i really did.i know a lot of people are blinded by the uglyness of it, but i was protecting some of the girls that came over.something was just wrong with me back then..if i could go back, i would definately change things.sorry that i let it happened.it wont ever happen with me again.

 

my girlfriend told me about it, and cried. so i held on to her.i was very supportive for her, but take this as a warning.

some people just dont understand..she told some of these people that she was raped and the room became cold.these were her co-workers and they really didnt like being her friend after that, which pissed me off.

she was abandoned and thought of as some wierdo.really, sometimes the only people that you can be totally comfortable telling dark secrets to is a stranger or a trusted loved one.

 

if she doesnt want to tell you anything, maybe its cause of the fear that was put into her during that..but thats your girl, im sure you guys are talking about it already.

[OrangeDot]

"wonk please dont feel like im pulling you out.. its just.. i think there is a bias in you somewhere when you will need more than just self justification.. and if you've already delt with situations like that.. man i appologise, mind you im going by text and have a HUGE bias... i have no idea what you've delt with, i just know my personal experience as the RAPE-E and not the RAPER... or even knowing the RAPER beyond an aquaintance... and being the subject of such event i felt in no way could i discuss it with them.. so yeah.. i appologise for any sort of "attack" in your direction.. you just need to understand my general sadness for anyone who's been involved with ANYTHING like this. so yeah.. sorry man.. your own personal demons will get ya. you dont need me helpin. *(and i should keep my eyes on my own too.. and not point the blame.. not to christian of me huh?)*"

 

 

 

dude.. i thought i layed out a pretty nice appology. look those people, the people with the remorse that you speak of.. THEY ARE SUFFERING.. thats exactly the statement i made... i NEVER said they were unforgiveable in the eyes of the lord.. but they are UNFORGIVEN BY THE INDIVIDUALS.

 

 

thats all i meant.. dude you can do some gnarly shit and god WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU.. thats not justification, but its HOPE... you can come back from that shit... after i read what you said i read the story of judice... *(sorry i JUST woke up and my thoughts are a bit messy)*... remember him? yeah... i realised i was doing much more harm then good, and i wrote that subtle appology.. man like that.. i UNDERSTAND shit sucks, that life sucks.. and that sometimes people make BAD decisions. i do alot. you did, and prolly still do.

 

 

 

look man i appologised for being so harsh, and then you flip on me.. i dont know what that was about.. i did use your examples as steppingstones to bring a BIGGER point across..but i wasnt trying to crucify you man... like i said i appologise. im sure we could be cool friends or something.. you could PROBABLY do me a LOT of good and teaching me, letting me UNDERSTAND the mentality that urges people in a direction like that... i always tried to play underdog.. i mean.. i did, and i do, and sometimes i fight the fight dirty.. like i did earlier man..

 

 

 

so yeah.. im not nor was i ever trying to call you out.. i had a bad approach to try to prove a point. i appologise.

 

sorry man.

[GI Jew]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[OrangeDot]

Originally posted by diehomokthx

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

it amazes me that some people just blow off a sincere appology. i felt bad. i was a jerk to him man. he deserves at least that.

 

 

ease the fuck up. not everyone has to be proud every day all day

[GI Jew]

I talked to Willy last night, and he was pissed. That's wack of you to talk shit like that. Apologies, to me, mean nothing. You fuck up, and you fuck up, there's no rewind button.

 

Yeah sure, you can delete posts on 12oz, but you can't take back what you said to Willy. I don't care if you're sorry or not, and I'm not the one that needs to accept your apology.

[THUMB WRESTL]

Originally posted by diehomokthx

I talked to Willy last night, and he was pissed. That's wack of you to talk shit like that. Apologies, to me, mean nothing. You fuck up, and you fuck up, there's no rewind button.

 

Yeah sure, you can delete posts on 12oz, but you can't take back what you said to Willy. I don't care if you're sorry or not, and I'm not the one that needs to accept your apology.

 

say man, shut the fuck up, you've came in this thread time and time again saying stupid shit, begging for attention. ease up on the stupid comments, and get off wonka's nuts. he's a big boy and he knows how to talk to baby puncher without you protecting his dignity/nuts/honor or what have you. grow up.

[Kettiecat]

Most rapes are date rapes.

Stranger-Stranger rape has very little to do with sex and everything to do with control and power.

Most women have had at some point in their lives rape fantasies.

Guys rape.

Girls lie about being raped.

Society judges the victims of rape.

They also judge the people accused of rape.

Almost all love stories promote men to push women into things they don't want. "The man wants to date the woman. She says no. He pushes on and on. Eventually the woman breaks down and falls for the guy."

[Guest tears*uno]

NIGGA, I SMOKE DATE RAPE

[KRONOLOGIK]

One of my boys is doing 25 to life in the Kingston penn (the largest prison that you're sent to if you live in Toronto) for one event that he can never change. His 16 year old sister at the time was at a big end of school jam with attendance somewhere around 80 people. The party went on with no serious events beyond the usual drugs and alcohol and I know his little sister she doesnt drink or do drugs. This ass hole who was 19 at the time druged her with one of those date rape pills in her glass of pop/soda whatever you guys call it and got her all fucked up then raped her in the bathroom at this guys house, shit was that a mistake. so I guess a few hours went buy after this incident and she began to sober up and realize what happened, she paged my boy (no names mentionned) her brother who was at work at the time and told him everything she could piece together from what she could remember. So in an instinctual rage he immediately left work and headed straight to the party (this guy was at that point on a mission to hunt down and terminate the guy that raped his sister) he soon nears the party and who happens to be walking to the liquor store, yep it was him with a couple of his boys. He (my boy) drove right up onto the sidewalk in his mustang and clipped his legs, got out and proceeded to kick the fuck out of him. He just kept kicking the guy untill he stopped breathing, he killed him with one of his kicks to the head and snapped his neck. I still visit him once a month cause its a long drive from where I live and honestly if that happened to my mom or a girlfriend of mine I'd do the same thing and wouldnt think twice about it. I just feel really sorry for my boy rotting away in that prison for that one nessessary death.

[Guest sneak]

^^im sorry your boy is now fucked. however, i probably would end up doing the same if i had a little sister. hell i could do that even if it was a friend of mine. im sure there are other people on this board that would to.