Vanity Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Report: St. Louis Most Unsafe U.S. City By Associated Press December 6, 2002, 10:33 PM EST ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis outranked Detroit as the nation's most-dangerous city, according to a Kansas research and publishing firm's annual report. St. Louis' marketers and criminologists dismissed the findings as another bid to satisfy America's craving for rankings. "People are inundated with this type of thing, and they read it for what it is," said Nancy Milton of the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission. Using FBI crime figures for 2001, Lawrence, Kan.-based Morgan Quitno Press ranked Atlanta as the third most dangerous city, followed by Gary, Ind., and Baltimore. Detroit had been No. 1 for three years, according to Morgan Quitno's rankings, now in their ninth year. Ranked safest was Amherst, N.Y., followed by Brick Township, N.J.; Newton, Mass.; and the California communities of Thousand Oaks and Sunnyvale. The rankings are based on a city's rate for six crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 in a thread like acouple weeks ago they said L.A. was the most dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhAt_dA_fUcK Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 damn i coulda sworn it woulda been mayberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Dobbs Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 ST LOUIS AINT SHIT COMPAIRED TO EAST ST LOUIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by rip in a thread like acouple weeks ago they said L.A. was the most dangerous. LA is the murder capital, not the most dangerous city, geez, get you facts straight, there's a HUGE difference..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 "Take that East St. Louis!" - Fat Comicbook Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Fuck that. Los Angeles #1 If Nelly can survive in St. Louis with only getting a constant scratch on the face then they ain't shit. LA where Police chief's daughter get bucked and Elementary kids slang nickel bags like it ain't no thang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by nomadawhat LA is the murder capital, not the most dangerous city, geez, get you facts straight, there's a HUGE difference..... yeah i know im sorry murder isnt the same as dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aichs47 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by Pistol Fuck that. Los Angeles #1 If Nelly can survive in St. Louis with only getting a constant scratch on the face then they ain't shit. LA where Police chief's daughter get bucked and Elementary kids slang nickel bags like it ain't no thang. what he said!! dont get caught slipn at the stop light!! dont get caught slipn one block from where u live!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Westville whut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 d-tooooWWWWWNNNNNN!!! WUT WUT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by Vanity Using FBI crime figures for 2001, Lawrence, Kan.-based Morgan Quitno Press ranked Atlanta as the third most dangerous city, followed by Gary, Ind., and Baltimore. The rankings are based on a city's rate for six crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. awww shit.. home sweet home worst place in america to raise a child..and consistently ranking dangerous city.... contained violence...bottled and served to just under 60,000 people, just under 40,000 acres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 chicago still has the worst projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 ^^^ how many cities' projects have you visited? in my experience, especially after living where i live, seeing the city you've mentioned, being a frequent visitor to philadelphia, washington d.c., NYC, and richmond, been lost in miami, been to east st.louis they're all fucking dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Re: Re: America's most dangerous city Originally posted by !@#$% awww shit.. home sweet home worst place in america to raise a child..and consistently ranking dangerous city.... contained violence...bottled and served to just under 60,000 people, just under 40,000 acres. yeah, you see how hard micheal jackson is........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aichs47 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by ~KRYLON2~ chicago still has the worst projects cant be worse than being in compton!! beefn with the t flats or in watts beefn with the grape streets or the jungles beefn with the 18streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 i wasn't talking about Gary, Indiana :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanity Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 i don't think east st. louis counts as part of st. louis, since it's in a different state, and has a different mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by !@#$% i wasn't talking about Gary, Indiana :rolleyes: :rolleyes: i thought this reply might be coming (more so after i saw you listed all the east coast cities you visited), i didn't know baltimore was that small, so i assumed the other......my bad. i even was going to post 'if thats where you're talking aboot'. but micheal jackson is still a thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graffsurgeon Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 cobble hill brooklyn new york please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 i have to agree with mayberry..can you imagine what it wold be like if a black man walked into town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by nomadawhat i thought this reply might be coming (more so after i saw you listed all the east coast cities you visited), i didn't know baltimore was that small, so i assumed the other......my bad. i even was going to post 'if thats where you're talking aboot'. but micheal jackson is still a thug. pretty funny.. bmore is losing population at a rate of over 10,000 people a decade.. thats what they call 'mass exodus' the county is huge..and the crime is starting to spill over. and mj takes my vote easily as the scariest human being ever i am more comfortable for hours at any of the above mentioned 'hoods then i would be for 10seconds at the neverland ranch.. yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 cabrini green is probably the most known and im pretty sure the taylor homes is the largest in the nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 don't be disappointed.. Chicago Will Destroy Nation's Largest Public Housing Project Chicago's Robert Taylor Homes -- a collection of 28 ratty, 16-story high-rises on 642 acres -- is scheduled for demolition. Fifty years ago, it was hailed as a bold and progressive social innovation. In 1994, it was cited by the Clinton administration as the worst public housing in the nation. Over the years it had become the scene of gang gunfire, open-air drug markets, rampant poverty and mismanagement. The national policy on public housing began changing three years ago. * In 1995, Congress revoked a 58-year-old requirement that if a house or apartment occupied by a poor person was demolished, it had to be replaced with low-income housing. * In 1996, Congress ordered an inspection of substandard housing projects nationwide -- ordering those not measuring up to be torn down in 10 years. * These two acts essentially gave cities permission to raze high-rises without the obligation to replace them. * Last month the Chicago Housing Authority submitted final plans for razing Taylor Homes to the Department of Housing and Urban Development -- which the agency quickly approved. The project will be replaced with single-family homes in a private, mixed-income development. Only 25 percent of the new houses will be set aside by the private developers for displaced public housing residents. As many as 15 out of 16 of Taylor's 16,000 residents will have to find somewhere else to live. all our high rise housing projects were destroyed in the last 5 years too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by ~KRYLON2~ cabrini green is probably the most known I thought they tore down Cabrini Green like 10 years ago or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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~KRYLON2~ Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Chicago Up Against the Cops in Cabrini Green Revolutionary Worker #1174, November 10, 2002, posted at rwor.org On Wednesday, October 30, over 200 residents of Chicago's Cabrini-Green housing projects marched to demand justice for Michael Walker. Known as "Jappa D" to most of his friends, Michael was a 21-year-old resident of Cabrini who was killed by police on Sunday, October 27. Walker is the thirtieth person in the greater Chicago area killed by law enforcement since 9/11/01. Police claimed that Michael Walker was selling drugs and that he ran away from a cop. According to the police version of events, the cop's gun went off "by accident" during a scuffle and killed Michael. Like in many other stories of police brutality and murder, the people tell it differently from the police. Cabrini-Green residents say that Michael was a victim of a brutal cop that had a vendetta against him. The cop had earlier arrested Michael, and he was angry that Michael had gotten out on bond. The people say that this cop repeatedly pistol-whipped Michael before shooting him in the face in cold blood. Then, the police left his body out in the building's breezeway for hours, in a show of cruel disrespect and intimidation. The police refuse to release the name of this killer cop. But it has come out that he was transferred to Cabrini-Green after shooting someone in the head on Chicago's West Side in April 2001. At the protest, which was initiated by the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade, people testified to the unjust sweeps, beatings and heavy police clampdown that's going on in the neighborhood as the city presses ahead with its plan to destroy public housing. Some people called it "martial law" and "police state." A representative of the Stolen Lives Project offered condolences to the family and led the crowd in the Stolen Lives Pledge: "I, _______________, pledge that the life and humanity of these Stolen Lives will not be forgotten. I pledge that their highest hopes and aspirations will live on in us and that I will seek justice for these and all the Stolen Lives. In this way I pledge that their memory will stay alive in us and will inspire us to fight for justice and a better world." Friends described Jappa as an easy-going guy who never carried a gun. Someone got on the bullhorn and said, "A lot of young men have to deal drugs, but it's because they're forced to in order to provide for their families." The point was also made that dealing drugs is not a death-penalty offense. The march went from building to building, calling out more support along the way. Most of those who came out to join were youth from the neighborhood and parents with kids. People chanted "No justice! No peace!", "Jail the killer cops!" and "No more stolen lives." The spirited march stopped at two police stations: a mini-station located right inside one of the Cabrini buildings and the new station at the nearby intersection of Division and Larrabee. This new police station illustrates the way in which police terror is being used to drive people out of Cabrini-Green. One of the buildings across from the new police station has already been emptied, and the building that Michael was killed in is also being targeted for "people removal" and demolition. During the last major wave of "people removal" and building demolition in Cabrini- Green in 1998, the police killed three people: Michael Russell, Leroy Reed, and Brennan King. After police killed Michael Russell, they went through the building he lived in and told people that if they didn't move out, they would "do them" like they did Michael. The police are trying to send the same message again, but the people of Cabrini-Green are sending back a message of resistance. Toward the end of the march, heading back to the starting point, people took to the streets. They briefly took over the intersection outside the new police station, blocking traffic. There was a tense stand- off with the police. Many youth refused to give up the streets. The police beat and arrested a 12-year-old. Some bottles and bricks were thrown at the police. A police commander claimed that the protesters were "walking through the development, inciting the teens." Tobe, a member of the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade, told the Chicago Tribune , "We say, `Justice for Michael Walker, and justice for killer cops.' We don't consider that to be incendiary. As you can see, it was something the community was behind." At press time, a second march had been called for Sunday, November 3, to demand justice for Michael Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 smart they knocked one building down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 The Robert Taylor Homes, Chicago's (and the country's) largest housing project, were completed in 1962. They were named after Robert R. Taylor, the commissioner of the CHA from 1938-1950. Robert Taylor resigned from the CHA in 1950 after realizing that the political forces in Chicago would prevent the CHA from building unsegregated public housing. Ironically, the massive Robert Taylor Homes, consisting of 28 identical sixteen-story buildings, virtually guaranteed racial segregation because it was built in the middle of the redeveloped slums of the Black Belt, thus keeping its over 28,000 residents isolated within the South-Side. By building up (to sixteen stories) the CHA was able to house many people on this two-mile piece of land. The architects hoped that the open space surronding the Robert Taylor Homes would give its residents a sense of closeness to the outdoors, making The Robert Taylor Homes a suburbia within the city. However, this land surronsing the buildings served more as an isolating factor more than anything else. The enormous buildings stood isolated from the rest of the city. (www.thecha.org). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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