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"there no way you knwo whats gonan happend tomorroe let alone 10 billion years from now..thats stupid its juss some high rated scientist that needs to get paid to buy his crack so he makes sumthing up and makes peopel believe it so he gets fame and a rOck..

its stupid..who the fuck cares..the world could end tomorrow and i can give a fuck..

juss aslong as everyone dies..

the last man on earth herd a knock on his door.."

 

...do you purposefully try to mis-spell everything, no offense dood, but christ, and that comment about scientists...are you for fucking real? okay normally jankie posts shit, but this tyme, i liked it...yeah i know "think about the present, who cares about the future and i just forgot about the past"...its okay to philosphize and look up at stars and get lost in space...and i wonder if all you doods who say "fuck it, i wont be around", think in the same close minded way when you look at 100 years from now...cause if you do, then you can forget about even a 1000 yrs from now...drew i like the knowledge, try not to ram it down my throat though for not knowing...and jankie for god sakes, dont believe everything you read...and twinkie, well keep it all in line....rOe

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...one last thought jankie...

 

"and if there is no universe, there is no heaven and no hell..."

 

...heres some late breaking news, the universe exists, heaven and hell dont, throw your bible away, and think about god on your own terms kid...like i said before dont believe everything ya read....rOe

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a fly lands on the windshield of a moving car for a few seconds then gets blown off. 4 weeks later the car gets destroyed in an accident. Could the fly do anything? hell no. is it worried?? its just a fucking fly....

 

[This message has been edited by ese (edited 06-22-2001).]

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ever wonder.. if there is a god.. and if the big bang theory is correct.. that.. the reason why the big bang thing happens over and over again.. if god likes to watch all the life forms over the many many years scramble to become smarter.. to create.. etc etc.. and yeah.. he just watches it over and over again.. maybe we create the same things over and over again.. maybe its the same people (or lifeforms) that create it over and over again (seeing as how [i think] the big bang theory is where everything pretty much happens all over again)maybe he timed this big bang thing just right.. so it happens right before we create something to actually get away from it.

i need to stop reading plato.

 

 

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yes.. yes i am.

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Originally posted by drewWrite:

um, i'm a geek so i know this kinda stuff, so let me drop some knowledge on you little naysayer:

our universe is around 14 billion years old. this is calculated if you understand physics, chemistry, and some math. study hard on the subjects and then study the theory as to how they calculate it, then make a judgement regarding wether we know the age of the universe or not.

second: this applies to understanding our star we call the sun. go through the process described above regarding getting educated on the matter, then make a decision. i've done both and agree with astronomers.

another thing wrong, our solar system will die in millions of years, but the universe will still have plenty of stars and planets for us to inhabit, and considering how far technology has taken us in the last few hundred years since the industrial revolution, i don't see any problem in being able to go to another solar system in a 10 million years

god, i can't believe i wasted time typing this shit. just curing waiting time at work...

 

 

prove it!

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..A demon once told me "So man created God in his own image.."Those words tripped me out..but what he was saying was some what true..

I am of the Christian faith...I love science..I love God..the words everlasting...meaning before and beyond in its simplest forms..as it is and always will be...do you believe that we have souls?

our souls may travel...Jesus...God has manifested Himself through Jesus Christ...

 

all our Lord Brother was basically saying was...you guys can do the same thing..it just I've been around much longer than you..

what ever Heaven is I'm positive that it is there...all Hell is, a fire to burn the souls that dont produce "good fruit"..i have seen the supernatural...it is there..i cannot prove it but i have had alot of other friends to witness what I speak of..so dont bag it unless you've tried it...I'll just go on critisizm or positive feedback..

 

peace

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i could add a bunch of arguments to this, but i'm reading zen and the art of motorcycle maintence now, and it's interesting how it relates to this topic so i'll just add some stuff from that here.

 

one thing that got me about that book was his logical disproof of the scientific method. he says that when you are working on a hypothesis in an experiment, often the more you work on it the more hypotheses you come up with. so ultimately there are an infinte number of hypotheses, so to be truly scientific you should test them all. but the more you test, the more hypotheses you come up with, so there is never enough time to test every single one. this is just a minor logical flaw and we've managed to do alright despite it, but i just thought that was interesting cause i believe in the scientific method, but it just makes me think.

 

the thing that really melted my mind was this. the past only exists in your mind (you memory), the future only exists in your mind (your plans). the only thing that exists in reality is the present. but when you sense something in the present there is a time gap between when you sense it, and when you actually intellectualize or recognize it as an object or sound of feeling or whatever. but because of the time gap before intellectualization, it has become the past, and therefore exists in your mind. the only true reality that exists is before you can even recognize it as such.

 

i've still got some reading left in it, so i'm hoping he elaborates on this more, but damn. when i read that part i was brain fucked. it's so much better in the book though cause he ties it in with all this other stuff he's built up before it. if you haven't read it, pick it up tomorrow. go to the library or bookstore or whatever. definitely worth it.

 

as far as the original point in this topic, call me a pessimest, but i think self-inflicted anhillation seems far more immediate and probable than the human race lasting long enough for the sun to burn us alive. but for now, just another wasted evening for glue...

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Originally posted by EatMorGlue:

but when you sense something in the present there is a time gap between when you sense it, and when you actually intellectualize or recognize it as an object or sound of feeling or whatever. but because of the time gap before intellectualization, it has become the past, and therefore exists in your mind. the only true reality that exists is before you can even recognize it as such.

 

 

just another wasted evening for glue...

 

ok einstien + my moms theory...past present future co-exists in the present.."my moms part to it"...maybe thats why phsycics can see into the future..

 

for me...i dream of the future 2 months before that "present time comes"...after 2 months...its like kazaam..."I had a dream about this.."

so what does that mean?I can imagine different dimentions in this thing we call our space...1d2d3d4d...what about 100D?

 

eatmore glue...please help me with this...

 

 

oh and also...what does anybody know of "DARK MATTER"....ANTI MATTER AND STUFFIN NONSENSE OF THAT SORT..?

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Originally posted by Jankie:

Man seym... do me a favor and tape my name to your forehead and shoot a hole through it... fuckface

 

Whatever you fat little child porn fiending, letter-form biting, trash barrel bombing, dick riding, idiotic little fucking toy ass bitch. oh, NOW you're BACK to talking shit. I remember about a week ago you were all like, "why are you mad at me??? why?" and then a couple days after you got your bitch ass friend to try to talk shit to me. And then a few days after that, the same friend started telling me how he liked my pieces and asking me to drop the beef with you. Fuck both of you fucking little idiot rich motherucking pussy kids. And don't even begin to think that the kids in my crew are "down" with your dumbass. Don't even talk back, keep your fucking mouth shut the fuck up.

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ahah... mad at me because i am of a higher class... richer... so what... you paint the same 3 or 4 spots over and over again... and you're style changed very little... so why don't you go back to talking to all of your 13 year old girlfriends.

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Originally posted by Jankie:

ahah... mad at me because i am of a higher class... richer... so what... you paint the same 3 or 4 spots over and over again... and you're style changed very little... so why don't you go back to talking to all of your 13 year old girlfriends.

 

oh man jankie. You're the one who begged me to have the 13 year old's screen name and you also asked for for naked pictures of herself. And then you went as far as to tell her about 12 oz prophet. So far you've called me a nigger and a faggot and told me that I should start acting more white. Cool, dude. I have nothing more to say. You can go on thinking that you're awesome and safe and cool and an asset to the world of graffiti, but you don't know shit. Graffiti wasn't founded on by stuck up isolated idiots. So keep bombing those trash barrels because we all know that someday you'll be king. Please stop making up new aol screen names just to harass me. goodnight.

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roe - yeah, once i get done i think i'm gonna go through it again just cause it's been too long since i read a book that blew my mind like that. and quality, jesus.. i never really thought about it like he does but when i do think about it, it is hard as hell to define. yeah, wow.

 

wonka - about your dreams, damned if i know man, my dreams fuck with my head enough as it is. maybe yours are along the self-fulling prophecy lines, i don't really know though. the dreams i always have is running but not being able to run fast enough or even fast at all. i'm running as fast as i can but i'm barely going at a jog, like my legs don't work right. i'm not being chased, just running to or from something. anybody know what the fuck that means?? i have it a lot. and lately every dream i can remember is really fucked up and weird. i think it's cause i haven't been smoking up anymore since i got no fuckin job.

 

but anyways, about the multidimensional aspect of the universe.. i think some people think the universe is higher dimensionality than three or four, the last thing i read about it (which was a few years ago, i don't know what's new since then) theorized that the universe had higher dimensionality than 3D, but when the big bang happened it essentially cracked the universe in two, with one 3 dimensional universe expanding infinitely while another 7 dimensional (or some number, i forget) universe contracted infinitely to a size smaller than an atom. anybody more recent on the reading, help me out here though. it's been a while.

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