morton Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Just don't be fucked up when you go. And for what it's worth, if that's where you're at right now, NA might be a better place to head to. But we're all different. Here in the United States it is fine to go to a NA meeting under the influence, it is not allowed to bring paraphernalia or drugs into the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That's kind of what I'm getting at. Good looks, morton. Cheers. theP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interracial facial Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 went to a meeting the other day for shits and giggles. it was alright. a drunk dude stumbled in and started interrupting people. that was the best part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shameless self promotion Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 ^classy fucking guy right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugene Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 back in the program again, i have 55 days. what are yalls views on racking and shit, kinda lame question but stealing is a big warning sign to me that may lead me to old behaviors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITOFZOMBIES Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have more or less quit stealing shit in sobriety. Ethically, i see no problem stealing from massive chain stores. Racking overpriced clothes from Nordstom, or bullshit from Walgreens... I don't feel bad for taking from them. But when you get popped and (hopefully) cut loose, don't be hella bitter about the court dates in your future and start drinking out of spite. If you're serious about getting sober, you'll be cautious with all your decisions. Because you even have to ask, and expressed concerns about it, I'd say gather up a solid 6 months and then re-evaluate the situation. You might find your desire to rack has waned, even if just a little. I will add that I made some risky judgment calls early in my sobriety. Went on a road trip with new people to SF, where my problem started. It worked out though... and there ended up not being any close calls either. Congrats on the 55 days nonetheless... that's a solid chunk. Keep at it. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 @UG - for me, any racking i do (less and less now that i've got a decent job) supports graffiti, which supports my sobriety. maybe it's the same for you. POZ's got good thoughts on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interracial facial Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 ^classy fucking guy right there. yea it was a boring meeting that time so, whateva... theres this meeting here that only 5-10 old people attend. and bums occasionally. but yea. that was the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugene Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 thanks for the feedback yall, i can honestly say i have no guilt racking, but i thought the whole "secrets keep us sick" would apply to this. preciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleazeside Heights Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I never steal anything, it's just not worth it. Not gonna risk anything for some bullshit I could easily pay for. But for some people, that rush you get when doing it is probably somewhat similar to the feeling you get when you drink, a rush, a sense of feeling alive. Your body craves the excitement and the rush of endorphins. Another thing to be careful of, and try to not do, much like trying not to drink. take a step back and examine why you want to do it, the reasons behind it, and what you could do instead in a more positive choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morton Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I could give two shits about the profit margin of the vast majority of stores, I do however have a high regard for my personal freedom. Recognition of consequence is not a negative thing in all cases, it boggles my mind to think of the sort of risks I took when I was active. One of the questions that being sober raises is the antidote to a "what if I die tomorrow" approach to life, we are forced to ponder "what if I live a long life?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not broke these days, so I don't steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeyedanimal Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not broke these days, so I don't steal. This. If I ever have to steal to eat again, I will. Not just for fun, shits dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I thought about this. I have stole before, mostly little stuff when I was way younger, but for the most part, stealing has never really been something I have been down with. If I wanted something, I usually hustled one way or another to get it. CIL = Hustler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleazeside Heights Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 relevant. Medicate yourself, You'll feel much better Take those drugs again, They'll take you higher Smoke your cigarettes for stress Drink more just to feel less This must feel like paradise But better As if any of those squareheads Know better They wish they have the guts, Glory and power If only they could think less Lay the pages of their book to rest Keep our little minds open, Feel better We'll drink to this today, Until it goes away We'll pray and feel ashamed Until another day It's better that we're tamed That pain will leave you lame I'd rather be good and numb Before I'm maimed You're stubborn like your parents And their mothers You're selfless, sometimes rude But it don't matter They all think you can do no wrong You've just been unlucky, you've been wronged You're waiting for your time Things will be brighter They dose those schoolboys and their mothers I'm sure they even dose each other What's the worse that can happen, tell me brother Why not throw in the towel and have another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 this time of year is no longer my favorite. stay up friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 LIFE ISN'T AS SHIT AS IT SOMETIMES APPEARS, THOUGH FOR SOME IT MAY GENUINELY BE. PROBLEM IS IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE HAND YOU HAVE BEEN DEALT & DON'T EVEN ATTEMPT PLAYING THE GAME, YOUR GONNA SIT AT THE TABLE OF LIFE, FINISH YOUR WHOLE BOTTLE OF BOOZE & LEAVE A BROKE & BITTER BASTARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 & WHILE IM SPOUTING MY SELF REALIZED SAGE-ICAL SHIT. FOR ANY NEWBIES/YOUNGER DRINKERS, THE DAYS YOU START WAKING UP & HAVING THAT FIRST DRINK JUST TO STAY FUCKN SANE, NEVER MIND THE SHAKES, IS THE DAY THE MADNESS STARTS ITS HOMERUN, & THEN ONLY YOU CAN GET YOURSELF OUT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The larger the text, the more relevant the statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAXMAN79 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I Mean no offense by this but, I don't understand the anti depressant/Xanax combo. DO you legitimately need them or is it to compensate for the lack of alcohol? My best friend is goin down fast. He just got off 2 years probation for booze related offenses and he didn't have a drop for the whole time (kind of). He got a Dr to give him Xanax and an anti depressant. I have known him 30 years. he does not need them, especially at the doses he got. .5mg 3 times a day and then a full mg for whenever he needs extra plus the antiD. He flat out told me this was to compensate while he was on probation. he went off probation and now he is crushing a 30 rack a day plus at least 4.5 mgs of Xanax as well as antidepressants. he cant remember a conversation he had 20 minutes ago slurs to the point you cant understand him, no job, no money, no car/licence, no place to live in 60 days. I'm pushing him to go into a program but IDK if it is gonna happen. Do I need to let him completely fail or what can I do? I went to his house yesterday after work and he was passed out with the front door open. I stole all his beer. I think he stole his mom's car to get more. I see my uncle in him. I watched him drink himself to death. it almost destroyed my mom. He is steppin his game up now!! in the hosp with acute pancreatitus.. calls me from the bed to get him weed cause they won't give him enough pain killers and his girl wont sneak in booze. I told him I give him 18 months and he said enough with the lecture are u gonna get me smoke or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interracial facial Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 hes proablly done for. sorry man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interracial facial Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 went to a meeting tonight and it was full of rehab patients. and when i say full i mean people were standing up in the back of this big ass room full of seats. it was aight though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 He is steppin his game up now!! in the hosp with acute pancreatitus.. calls me from the bed to get him weed cause they won't give him enough pain killers and his girl wont sneak in booze. I told him I give him 18 months and he said enough with the lecture are u gonna get me smoke or not? Don't think anyone is done for, esp if they have somebody who understands their situation better than any Doc/Therapist, like a good m8 who has been there himself..I mean why would a real Doc (not including Michael J's) ever have traveled down the rotten path. Xanax & Anti-D's do their job if left alone to do it, the one thing the Docs do know about is how long you take them for...Xana & Sleepn' Tabs should not be abused...they will get you out of a bad alcho phase...but after your out don't treat them like candy, cause then you struggle to detox from those cunts. The newest Anti-d's don't really have any real side effects..but again stick to the program, & do exactly what it says on the tin...otherwise you will be back in a fuckn hotter hell. Long story short...don't let the twains meet..don't mix the bastards. they each have their specific function. Anyway, besides gettin' para about big pharma having any Alex Jones type agenda for you the shits may be your only saviour. Besides your own maturity.:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat ralphy Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 ITS THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN.......STAY SAFE OONTZ HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 DID THE FIRST BOOZE FREE XMAS LAST YEAR. BEST & EASIEST XMAS SINCE I WAS 14. KNOW WHERE YOUR GOING....AND JUST FUCKN GO THERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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