andy Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 my thoughts (dunno if reviewing TV programs is part of Hip Hop, maybe we could make it the sixth element, after basketball?)... two thumbs down for Faking It, in my opinion that was a pretty crap representation of "graffin". choice quote for me (a bumpkin): "you sound like where you're from" -oh dear, someone isn't 'keeping it real'. and both dubs in that battle at the Scala were wack as fuck. black fill chrome outline - someone tell Oker that these aren't allowed, doesn't he know thats breaking a cardinal rule! so they watched Style Wars, fair play - presumably they skipped the bits with Sach and his Van Halen t-shirt & blond locks, not Hip Hop enough obviously and it was nice of them to kit him out in the trendy shit every next man is wearing - the unstoppable rise of the Air Force 1 and its horrible 'limited edition' colourways continues - but for me writing isn't about how you dress: its no more "hoodies and baggies" than it is terrace casual, chav or skateboarder. in fact it can be all of those things and more. if they were helping him to fake looking like a cliche then they succeeded. thats not to say that, as a writer, you can't be into breaking and dressing like that, but to many people that simply isn't part of the graf culture at all. of course if he came to stay with me, and we went to the football and listened to British Sea Power, the resulting program wouldn't be what most people expect of graffiti. i understand this is ultimately just a television program, and with graf at its trendiest right now, they had viewers to attract with their Hip Hop idyll. fair enough. but i think there were parts of this subculture that weren't fully explained - like how it can transcend age, race, gender and class boundries - leaving me slightly disappointed. surely graf isn't about conforming to a stereotype? whatever, i'm not screwing. i knew all along it weren't gonna change my life or anything. i'm just pissed off that i taped over the Libertines on Jonathan Ross with that shit, haha. peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 yeah i didnt think it was very good...some funny moments though..the guy was a prick..but yeah, they did just show a stereotype graffiti writer..and it sucks that they didnt say ANYTHING about illegal graf, after all that is "real" graffiti. EDIT*well, they showed a few trackside tags at battersea park station..but that was it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I think the programme was funny. The guy doing it came across as a nice guy, once you got past the poshness. After only being involved in it for a few days he already saw it as an artform, i dont remember his exact words, but that was nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippingreat Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 at least they didnt give him GERMAN montana :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by flippingreat at least they didnt give him GERMAN montana :lol: :lol: :lol: Now your mixing up the programme....surely with German,it mustt be scrapheap challenge! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val venus Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 i must agree that the program did steriotype graffiti artists however what i did enjoy seeing was a more possitive representation of graffiti on tv(even if it was all legals, apart from the photo of anie painting a little met) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaspOne Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I think it didn't represent the graffiti lifestyle at all, programmes like that will only encourage more kids to think its cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptheknife Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by TonyBlair only encourage more kids to think its cool. But tony we are all so cool! We write on things and get all the girls.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 It wasnt too bad a programme at all... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adernaline Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 ''yar yar yar'' i agree edit, sure im not the only one who clocked the obae and debug things :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone gone forever Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 nar i saw them too mate, debug, zomby,obae, and even sum iran lol :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Spotted outside Charring Cross Station,fallen upon hard times selling the Big Issue! http://www.tv.cream.org/lookin/drwho/sounds/images/dalek.gif'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Loco, you are making no sense to me, as usual! Can we have subtitles on your posts in future.. Thanks As for the Faking it.. Well I loved it. Where the fuck did they find him in the first place is what I want to know and how the fuck did he manage to fool them. Even my mum phoned up after the show to ask if I watched it and said his piece was blatantly the worst. As for the "lifestyle" aspect I do agree that you don;t have to look or dress a certain way to be a writer but if you wanted to pass him off as a writer with such weak style you'd have to try and make him "look the part". Think about it, this is probably the first time in years graf has come over well on tv. Loved how the mentor was blatantly blazing throughout the 4 weeks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 yeah the scene when he was "telling him off", he had a joint in his hand and half of the screen was blurred out :lol: also, i dont think his peice was the worst...the guy on the far right, with all them shitty arrows was the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I thought his peice turned out pretty good considering some of the efforts he was up against. And would it be regarded as bait if I were to ask who the mentor was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone gone forever Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 yeh,does any one no who the mentor was ? and for that matter, any one else who appeared on the show ? i dont no if any one fort the same as me, but the bloke who was tryin to pull it off looked like a very well known riter, "O**R" i no it wasnt him, but i personally fort it looked like him lol ............... posh cunt :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto also, i dont think his peice was the worst...the guy on the far right, with all them shitty arrows was the worst That was the best one.. When he started I was a bit "wtf is he doing?" but then when he finished I rated it. Some funkiness going on. Some of the people on the show I could tell you about, but don't reckon any of that should be talked about online, so I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadPonies Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by winston I thought his peice turned out pretty good considering some of the efforts he was up against. And would it be regarded as bait if I were to ask who the mentor was? Was it not painfully obvious?! There was even a scene where Posh chops was talking to the camera 'video diary' style and spilt the tag! I think D came out of it really well...top bloke. Must check the store at some point and congratulate him...looks like it was a tough job! Must have been ALOT of behind the scenes tutoring. Anyone clock the instore work by H**S?...Fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by El Producto also, i dont think his peice was the worst...the guy on the far right, with all them shitty arrows was the worst nah that was some Helsinki-style next level funk, i definitely rated it. you have to know where he's coming from to appreciate that style. big up the RB's yeah i agree with DeadPonies, D seemed well safe. can't have been easy for a Kilburn-raised lad to resist clapping the posh fella lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by b0b Loco, you are making no sense to me, as usual! Can we have subtitles on your posts in future.. Thanks As for the Faking it.. Well I loved it. Where the fuck did they find him in the first place is what I want to know and how the fuck did he manage to fool them. Even my mum phoned up after the show to ask if I watched it and said his piece was blatantly the worst. As for the "lifestyle" aspect I do agree that you don;t have to look or dress a certain way to be a writer but if you wanted to pass him off as a writer with such weak style you'd have to try and make him "look the part". Think about it, this is probably the first time in years graf has come over well on tv. Loved how the mentor was blatantly blazing throughout the 4 weeks too. Too much vintage Top Deck last night bOb...Oh and text me fella! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locofanclub Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by andy nah that was some Helsinki-style next level funk, i definitely rated it. you have to know where he's coming from to appreciate that style. big up the RB's yeah i agree with DeadPonies, D seemed well safe. can't have been easy for a Kilburn-raised lad to resist clapping the posh fella lol... Helsinki styled Sheffield funk! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by Locofanclub Oh and text me fella! ;) I don't have a mobile at the mo' so that might be hard! Should be back to normal next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torrance Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 with regards to the identity of the mentor it should be blindingly obvious, given the place where he lives and the crew that 'bakus' is hitting underneath his incredible peices.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would have probably guessed who it was but I only caught the last 20 mins of the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 god damnit i wanna know who it was:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadPonies Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 BAKUS=:king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveKRS Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 It's probably of less interest than who the mentor is but I can tell you that the 3rd judge in the programme took the photographs on the Skinnyman albumhttp://www.wideangle.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabo 2 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 fucking typical I leave britain and miss the most jokes thing on tv in recent history. anyway elk is up in bangkok, joker:king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_sofarok Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 http://www.freephotohost.com/24/48C70046.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeFanta Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 They showed the mentor sketching, you should have picked it up. And they wacked one of his pieces in the background sneaky like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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