theprotester Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Throw back call outs on the Oontz. There is a God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Kong at the gates Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This issue obviously doesn't get addressed often enough, because I keep hearing about dumb shit going down and spots getting blown. All the veteran heads can skip this thread, except to add any minor points to think about or incidents where violation of these concepts brought heat to them personally. Anyone fairly new to trains should listen up. I'm going to talk at length about a bunch of related points. THE MAIN ISSUE. The main issue here is longevity of chill spots to paint freights. Any sane writer who is not a malicious shithead must agree that keeping a chill spot to piece freights is a good thing. The primary thing that blows spots is letting people (rail workers, cops, joe hero who walks his dog near the tracks and hates "taggers") know that painting gets done at that spot. WITNESSES. SOME rail workers hate graff and will report a spot getting hit to superiors/railcops/regular police. SOME passerby civilians hate graff and will call the cops about it if they see it being done. ALL cops are obviously down to nail writers. So: a significant percentage of people who see freights being painted, or can tell from evidence that they were painted right there, will take action. Maybe it's only ten or twenty percent, but so what? Why take the chance? This means 1) strive to be seen by zero people and 2) leave NO evidence around the train you just painted to clue people in that it was painted THERE instead of rolling in from someplace else. (This seems pretty basic, but there are plenty of people on this board who don't grasp it yet.) DON'T GET SEEN. Again, pretty obvious right? Not to some. To avoid being seen, paint only in a spot screened from most directions by trees, buildings, etc. Do not paint standing on a live track, because another train or one of those quiet, fast utility trucks on train wheels could roll on you. Remember, EVEN IF YOU CAN GET AWAY SUCCESSFULLY, IF YOU GOT SPOTTED PAINTING, YOU ATTRACTED ATTENTION AND HEAT TO THE SPOT. That fucks it up for you, which is only as bad as you think it is, but if other people paint that spot, you have fucked it up for them too, and they will be pissed off, cross you out, beat your head in, etc. HISTORY/SENIORITY If you're new to trains, the thing you need to understand is that if you find a spot to paint them, it may already be a regular spot for other heads in your area. They don't want their spot blown. They will not even like you painting there at all, because you have yet to prove you're smart enough not to fuck up the spot with dumb behavior. Also, they may have set their own limits on how many cars they'll hit per line that gets parked there, because hitting several trains in a row is a big clue to workers that painting occurs right there. When you piece there, you are possibly fucking with their rhythm. This is not to say, don't hit any freight spot without permission. But do 2 things: one, observe the "chillness" advice I'm dropping here; and two, if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef. THE DON'TS. DON'T paint several cars in a row, or tag or bomb whole lines. Workers know that trains are always getting broken up and rearranged, and the exact same artwork on many cars in a row gives away that it was done right there. DON'T leave empty cans at the spot, or get lazy about tossing them just a few feet out of sight. They will be seen by workers and noted. Dead giveaway. DON'T test out your paint on the rocks, wall, ground, or rails right by the train. Another dead giveaway that painting happens right there. (I test my caps/cans on some unrelated part of the SAME car I am painting: the wheels or suspension, a pipe that hangs down, whatever.) DON'T tag or bomb the walls, buildings, electrical boxes, trees or anything else near the yard, tracks, layup or wherever, unless the area is already crushed anyway. Another dead giveaway. DON'T leave any other evidence besides the piece you just painted. Take your dirty glove away with you, throw it away somewhere else. If a can gushed or dripped on the rocks by the track, toss those rocks away, bury them, scatter em around, whatever. DON'T paint over the numbers on freights - weight limits, reporting marks, hazmat info, or the little black box which is usually near the right end of the car as viewed from the side. This doesn't necessarily give a clue as to where the car was painted, but makes workers more interested in busting someone's ass. It also forces the railroad company to take the car out of service long enough to get those numbers restamped back on there, they are required by law to have that info displayed, and if the costs of repainting numbers add up enough they'll hire more railroad security and put heat on everyone. RECON. One thing you should do after finding a spot, but before painting it, is go down there with no paint on you, scope out the whole area: trees, paths, fences, escape routes, and not just the physical layout but stay awhile and/or check in several times a week to find out when it gets switched, what time local businesses close for the night, when trains go by, stuff like that that clues you in to a good time/way to hit it up. CONCLUSION. The goal is to not let anyone know that trains get painted at a certain spot. You want workers to think that any pieces on that line rolled in from somewhere else. And even if you do everything right, and they smell the fresh paint of the pieces, you might be okay anyway because, since you stayed off the numbers, didn't leave cans for them to trip over, etc. they won't care enough to report it. Following these fairly simple guidelines keeps spots chill, avoids beef, and extends the life of the freight scene. The best way to stop it is run the new folks out the yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon sandleshit Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The best way to stop it is run the new folks out the yards and while it works once you see them. requires you to go to the spot every night and stake out all night? realistically its not as easy as it sounds to stop toys and dumbasses once they are painting/heating up the spot. ive had the issue of some kid heating up the spots, despite me buffing the buildings they bombed next to where the trains lay it still brought more heat to the spot. and when i found the kid on instagram he refused to admit he had done any wrong and that i was just hating on him and refused to meet up. and while i am in the street and spots frequently its not as easy to catch them all as some make it out to seem. its just a game of him fucking shit up and me looking for him at the spot and buffing his shit and crossing it in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Always carry some toffee covered gumnuts in case you get jumped by kangaroos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrtlss domingues Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 man all i can say is tag it real nice so nobody messed with it leave some nice handys and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEKSE1 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 There's nothing like chill spots for pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotsauceinthedickholewastaken Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 1/3/2001 at 8:58 PM, phax said: this is loosely related since this topic is to instruct new comers to freights and what not, but how long should you be bombing on walls and what not before you come to the tracks, i'm obviously not ready, but curious on this issue... thanks. ------------------ - prob - I personally think a newbie should bench at least a 1000 pics and post them here before you even put a moniker on a freight. That way you are more comfortable in the yards before you go doing something illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I’m all for being discreet but the gatekeeping in this thread damn. Do what you want to do, if some people don’t like it, fuck em. Ive never thought to myself ‘ this might be someone else’s spot’ lolll no one owns that shit. Bomb what and where you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I should also mention, I’ve had some of my regular spots trashed and overrun by toys just like I’ve discovered new spots and bombed every boxcar on the line. It goes both ways, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray40 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Anyone know any chill spots in my Lebanon(town in Pittsburgh)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Uno Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 7/28/2019 at 6:30 AM, Ray40 said: Anyone know any chill spots in my Lebanon(town in Pittsburgh)? Yeah, try this spot, just keep it chill tho: https://goo.gl/maps/Re4QoJJ8hBnGBqAU9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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