led junkie Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Its funny how we all bitch about young writers going over better graffiti but I bet most of us have in our early days except me lol. Heres some tips. 1.Dont tell anybody but your crew about spots. 2.When posting flicks on the net crop them right down so noone can see the skyline or signs that identify that spot. 3.If anyone asks you hey wheres that wall or lay up ? - YOU KNOW THEY WANNA PAINT IT just say its in another state or area far far away or that wall has been torn down now.Or they dont lay up there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r3ader Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 leaving foot prints is fine. if you don't tag all over the yard and you are respectful of the #s it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatetown Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 dont leave empty cans of paint behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xETHIXx Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 leaving cans behind is hella stupid. On numerous occasions in my town, have good pieces gotten severely hacked by toy ass beef starters who got their paint just by finding it on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub-ole Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 take the cap if your gonna leave the can its one step that the toy has to prepare for or take a pocket knife and just puncture it.or a smarter idea would to be take the cans with you your best bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivre Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 ^^im pretty sure you shouldn't puncture the cans, they still have compressed air in them most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub-ole Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 well usually i walk with the cans when im done pressin the cap down to let it all out and then i punture it but i dont do that often considering im a minor still,paint is valueble to me lol p.s. if you are a toy and do that to a full can besure to video tape it for me please just for some entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosluggo Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 leaving cans behind is hella stupid. On numerous occasions in my town, have good pieces gotten severely hacked by toy ass beef starters who got their paint just by finding it on the ground. Wait till someone that works for the railroad breaks their ankle on one of your cans and kiss that spot goodbye.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xploda11 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 make sure u hav more then 1 spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSoupForYou. Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Damn i fucked up. went to this yard for the first time, had a bunch of empty cans next to my backpack that i was gonna take with me, cuz thats just common sence. Anyway, got chased, grabbed my backpack and left all the empty cans on the ground. the sucurity guards ran right past them while chasing me. they went back and got in they car and eventually caught us. we said we were taking pictures.they asked why my homie had paint all over his hand, and he said he practices the art at home and is interested in it, so we came out here to take pictures. then they asked why we ran, and i said cuz i was afraid of getting blurped for tresspassing. then they said 5-0 is already on their way but they will tell them that we were really cool about it, and were only taking photos. I'm just happy we got so lucky and only got caught by some knock ass sucurity guards. I admit, that day i was on some toy shit, but im new to fraights. bump this thread tho, i doubt ill be making anymore spots hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 this is a great thread, alot of the stuff I knew out of commen sence but some new stuff to me. good informational thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syfr Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Man, about the area codes, the place here...isn't actually here...My sister's pad is 3 hours away from mine, and about a 20 minute walk from her house there is a train and transfer yard that is NEVER used. I've been by the trains every time I'm there. Same car order, same tags, only two or three pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8er6 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 ok, im a total newbie to trains. in this one industrial part of town, they keep trains near buildings sometimes. how do i know if its a "live track' and what exactly is a layup? is there a diffrence between a layup and a train yard? i really dont know, like i said, im new to trains, i usualy hit walls and such. please help me out without all the toy treatment. i know not to do anything dumb like on the first page, but i need help. thanks, sk8er6 p.s. i've been finding what looks like spots on google earth. there all in industrial areas near buildings. also, as long as it looks clean, is it cool to do bombs on trains? or is it a strictly "if its not a piece, your shit is getting gone over" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 ok, im a total newbie to trains. in this one industrial part of town, they keep trains near buildings sometimes. how do i know if its a "live track' and what exactly is a layup? is there a diffrence between a layup and a train yard? i really dont know, like i said, im new to trains, i usualy hit walls and such. please help me out without all the toy treatment. i know not to do anything dumb like on the first page, but i need help. thanks, sk8er6 p.s. i've been finding what looks like spots on google earth. there all in industrial areas near buildings. also, as long as it looks clean, is it cool to do bombs on trains? or is it a strictly "if its not a piece, your shit is getting gone over" you can bomb trains, nothing says you have to piece it might last longer if you piece but probably dosen't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.pepper Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 i have a question. what about the yellow reflector stip things? can u not go over those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 i have a question. what about the yellow reflector stip things? can u not go over those? I probably would say not too, just because it will most likely get replaced, unless you have no choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 bombs on trains? it probably wasnt a good idea to say that. have you been seeing black choppers circling your house lately? or hearing clicking noises on your phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Fuck a reflector. The FRA mandated all cars to have reflectors every so many feet so some trucker who's been up for 4 days on meth doesn't crash his rig into the side of a moving train at a clearly marked crossing. More bullshit from the nanny government trying to keep idiots from winning a Darwin award. If you go over a reflector it will probably be replaced at the same speed as the buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltcutter Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 it probably wasnt a good idea to say that. have you been seeing black choppers circling your house lately? or hearing clicking noises on your phone? LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanie Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 en good. very helpful __________________ tomorrow is another day dvd to iphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john brown Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 This issue obviously doesn't get addressed often enough, because I keep hearing about dumb shit going down and spots getting blown. All the veteran heads can skip this thread, except to add any minor points to think about or incidents where violation of these concepts brought heat to them personally. Anyone fairly new to trains should listen up. I'm going to talk at length about a bunch of related points. THE MAIN ISSUE. The main issue here is longevity of chill spots to paint freights. Any sane writer who is not a malicious shithead must agree that keeping a chill spot to piece freights is a good thing. The primary thing that blows spots is letting people (rail workers, cops, joe hero who walks his dog near the tracks and hates "taggers") know that painting gets done at that spot. WITNESSES. SOME rail workers hate graff and will report a spot getting hit to superiors/railcops/regular police. SOME passerby civilians hate graff and will call the cops about it if they see it being done. ALL cops are obviously down to nail writers. So: a significant percentage of people who see freights being painted, or can tell from evidence that they were painted right there, will take action. Maybe it's only ten or twenty percent, but so what? Why take the chance? This means 1) strive to be seen by zero people and 2) leave NO evidence around the train you just painted to clue people in that it was painted THERE instead of rolling in from someplace else. (This seems pretty basic, but there are plenty of people on this board who don't grasp it yet.) DON'T GET SEEN. Again, pretty obvious right? Not to some. To avoid being seen, paint only in a spot screened from most directions by trees, buildings, etc. Do not paint standing on a live track, because another train or one of those quiet, fast utility trucks on train wheels could roll on you. Remember, EVEN IF YOU CAN GET AWAY SUCCESSFULLY, IF YOU GOT SPOTTED PAINTING, YOU ATTRACTED ATTENTION AND HEAT TO THE SPOT. That fucks it up for you, which is only as bad as you think it is, but if other people paint that spot, you have fucked it up for them too, and they will be pissed off, cross you out, beat your head in, etc. HISTORY/SENIORITY If you're new to trains, the thing you need to understand is that if you find a spot to paint them, it may already be a regular spot for other heads in your area. They don't want their spot blown. They will not even like you painting there at all, because you have yet to prove you're smart enough not to fuck up the spot with dumb behavior. Also, they may have set their own limits on how many cars they'll hit per line that gets parked there, because hitting several trains in a row is a big clue to workers that painting occurs right there. When you piece there, you are possibly fucking with their rhythm. This is not to say, don't hit any freight spot without permission. But do 2 things: one, observe the "chillness" advice I'm dropping here; and two, if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef. THE DON'TS. DON'T paint several cars in a row, or tag or bomb whole lines. Workers know that trains are always getting broken up and rearranged, and the exact same artwork on many cars in a row gives away that it was done right there. DON'T leave empty cans at the spot, or get lazy about tossing them just a few feet out of sight. They will be seen by workers and noted. Dead giveaway. DON'T test out your paint on the rocks, wall, ground, or rails right by the train. Another dead giveaway that painting happens right there. (I test my caps/cans on some unrelated part of the SAME car I am painting: the wheels or suspension, a pipe that hangs down, whatever.) DON'T tag or bomb the walls, buildings, electrical boxes, trees or anything else near the yard, tracks, layup or wherever, unless the area is already crushed anyway. Another dead giveaway. DON'T leave any other evidence besides the piece you just painted. Take your dirty glove away with you, throw it away somewhere else. If a can gushed or dripped on the rocks by the track, toss those rocks away, bury them, scatter em around, whatever. DON'T paint over the numbers on freights - weight limits, reporting marks, hazmat info, or the little black box which is usually near the right end of the car as viewed from the side. This doesn't necessarily give a clue as to where the car was painted, but makes workers more interested in busting someone's ass. It also forces the railroad company to take the car out of service long enough to get those numbers restamped back on there, they are required by law to have that info displayed, and if the costs of repainting numbers add up enough they'll hire more railroad security and put heat on everyone. RECON. One thing you should do after finding a spot, but before painting it, is go down there with no paint on you, scope out the whole area: trees, paths, fences, escape routes, and not just the physical layout but stay awhile and/or check in several times a week to find out when it gets switched, what time local businesses close for the night, when trains go by, stuff like that that clues you in to a good time/way to hit it up. CONCLUSION. The goal is to not let anyone know that trains get painted at a certain spot. You want workers to think that any pieces on that line rolled in from somewhere else. And even if you do everything right, and they smell the fresh paint of the pieces, you might be okay anyway because, since you stayed off the numbers, didn't leave cans for them to trip over, etc. they won't care enough to report it. Following these fairly simple guidelines keeps spots chill, avoids beef, and extends the life of the freight scene. good lookin out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Search You can control who can find you in searches and what appears in your search listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Orenthal Norton Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Fuck a reflector. The FRA mandated all cars to have reflectors every so many feet so some trucker who's been up for 4 days on meth doesn't crash his rig into the side of a moving train at a clearly marked crossing. More bullshit from the nanny government trying to keep idiots from winning a Darwin award. If you go over a reflector it will probably be replaced at the same speed as the buff. yeah..depending on what paint you use..the vinyl the reflectors are made out of can make your paint drip/run...numbers-if you have good can control and the skinny enough cap..you can thin the letters/numbers down till they're the width of your finger..just make sure they are still readable..then you probaly shouldnt get stamped...and for everyone excitement...U.P. has know started running their shiny new autoraks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey cheese Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 THE REFLECTORS CAN GET PAINTED LIKE THE NUMBERS MIGHT NOT RIDE FOREVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Ren Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 what if the spot i found is already really fucked up? there are canals right by the trains ands other locals just straight tagged them all! i already read that "freight Train graffiti" book before i even knew about the spot, so i kinda knew a little about what to do and what not to do and when i saw that i was wtf!? should i keep going back..its the only train yard here. also the last time we went was about january and we got chased out.so i wanted to wait before going back.so when we went this week it was calm. and the other writers are assholes that dont talk to us cause they think there are better cause theyve been writing longer but they straight up suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Most city yards have a different feel, a lot of places the walls are already crushed, cans everywhere, and there's bombers in every city who don't give a fuck about freights but come through mostly to hit the walls, and the freights are right there so they write on them too. Not much you can do about that. Typically places that are like that, the cops have bigger things to worry about than writers, although they may patrol those spots and bust anybody who's up to anything. I can't really help you, you have to learn the rhythms of your own spots if it's clear that writers have been there or are there a lot. At a few of my cutty spots where the walls were clean, I have buffed toy shit that popped up on the walls, and obviously taken out those toys' shit on the freights as punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Ren Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 hmm alright man. thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Ren Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 hmm alright man. thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapONE Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 The yard we have has like trains emptying out weird crap and it doesn't move for like a month or two. Would it still be okay to paint on 'em? Our yard isn't too big, just 2 tracks and a load of trains. And out the other end is a firestation. Another end has the industrial part of the town. It's also near a semi-busy road and near a car repair shop thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Orenthal Norton Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 and FIND GOOD PARKING! ^^^ this parking in the wrong area and looking like a suspicious vehicle can blow a spot. people in the area will call it in to the cops. the cops show up. 1. you get busted walking back to your car with a bag filled with empty cans of paint. they know without asking what you were doing. 2. if your lucky they will just question the shit out of you, possibly impounded your car for illegal parking, or you get a ticket. either way, finding a good place to park is a must if the yard is not in walking/bus/train ride from your house. so add that to your list of things to look for when your prospecting a new yard or spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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